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| From | Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> |
|---|---|
| Newsgroups | rec.arts.sf.written |
| Subject | Re: “Hegseth Hails First Test of America’s “Golden Dome” Missile Defense Shield” |
| Date | 2026-06-27 23:12 +0000 |
| Organization | A noiseless patient Spider |
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On Sat, 27 Jun 2026 14:35:19 -0400, Cryptoengineer wrote: > On 6/26/2026 8:51 PM, Lawrence D’Oliveiro wrote: >> >> On Thu, 25 Jun 2026 18:45:03 -0500, Lynn McGuire wrote: >> >>> The F-18s are taking out drones routinely in Hormuz Straits. >> >> Further thought about that: how much does it cost to operate an >> F-18? $1000/hour? (I suspect more.) > You're not even close. The Official DoD Reimbursement Rate for a > single seat, F/A-18E Super Hornet is $17,584/hour. > > That includes ground maintenance, fuel, crew compensation, and > some other operational costs. It does not include weapons. I figured I was off, but not by that much ... Clarke’s “Superiority” story *definitely* did not take this sort of thing into account. So every time they fire a missile, that’ll be another few grand being totted up on the till, I suppose ... >> How much does it cost to make and launch one of those drones? >> $1000? I suspect this figure of mine is not so far off. >> So each F-18 should be taking out about one drone per hour to make it >> a fair fight, economically speaking. Are they really doing that much? So that would have to be 10-20 drones per hour. I doubt they are anywhere close to that. And if their anti-drone missiles cost more than the drones they are shooting down (which seems very likely), then there is no way to make this an economically fair fight: the more missiles the 🇺🇸 fighters shoot down, the deeper in the red the whole account becomes.
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Re: Re_ Hegseth Hails First Test of America_s Golden Dome Missile Defense Shield Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-06-28 23:46 +0000
Re: Re_ Hegseth Hails First Test of America_s Golden Dome Missile Defense Shield Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-06-28 23:51 +0000
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Re: “Hegseth Hails First Test of America’s “Golden Dome” Missile Defense Shield” Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-06-25 23:35 +0000
Re: “Hegseth Hails First Test of America’s “Golden Dome” Missile Defense Shield” Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> - 2026-06-25 18:45 -0500
Re: “Hegseth Hails First Test of America’s “Golden Dome” Missile Defense Shield” Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-06-26 02:07 +0000
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Re: “Hegseth Hails First Test of America’s “Golden Dome” Missile Defense Shield” Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> - 2026-06-27 15:17 -0500
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Re: "Hegseth Hails First Test of America's "Golden Dome" Missile Defense Shield" Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-06-28 23:29 +0000
Re: “Hegseth Hails First Test of America’s “Golden Dome” Missile Defense Shield” Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> - 2026-06-29 02:05 -0500
Re: Re: “Hegseth Hails First Test of America’s “Golden Dome” Missile Defense Shield” kludge@panix.com (Scott Dorsey) - 2026-06-29 06:52 -0400
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Re: Re: “Hegseth Hails First Test of America’s “Golden Dome” Missile Defense Shield” scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2026-06-30 01:20 +0000
Re: “Hegseth Hails First Test of America’s “Golden Dome” Missile Defense Shield” oldernow <oldernow@dev.null> - 2026-06-30 11:28 +0000
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Re: Re: “Hegseth Hails First Test of America’s “Golden Dome” Missile Defense Shield” scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2026-06-30 20:51 +0000
Re: “Hegseth Hails First Test of America’s “Golden Dome” Missile Defense Shield” Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-06-30 02:51 +0000
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Re: “Hegseth Hails First Test of America’s “Golden Dome” Missile Defense Shield” Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> - 2026-06-30 15:31 -0500
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Re: Hails First Test of Missile Defense oldernow <oldernow@dev.null> - 2026-07-03 15:53 +0000
Re: Hails First Test of Missile Defense kludge@panix.com (Scott Dorsey) - 2026-07-03 12:28 -0400
Re: Hails First Test of Missile Defense Paul S Person <psperson@old.netcom.invalid> - 2026-07-04 08:37 -0700
Re: Hails First Test of Missile Defense Robert Woodward <robertaw@drizzle.com> - 2026-07-03 09:52 -0700
Re: Hails First Test of Missile Defense kludge@panix.com (Scott Dorsey) - 2026-07-02 17:16 -0400
Re: Re: “Hegseth Hails First Test of America’s “Golden Dome” Missile Defense Shield” scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2026-06-26 14:33 +0000
Re: “Hegseth Hails First Test of America’s “Golden Dome” Missile Defense Shield” Paul S Person <psperson@old.netcom.invalid> - 2026-06-26 08:37 -0700
Re: “Hegseth Hails First Test of America’s “Golden Dome” Missile Defense Shield” Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-06-27 00:51 +0000
Re: “Hegseth Hails First Test of America’s “Golden Dome” Missile Defense Shield” Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> - 2026-06-26 23:30 -0500
Re: “Hegseth Hails First Test of America’s “Golden Dome” Missile Defense Shield” Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-06-27 07:03 +0000
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Re: the Cold War, was Missile Defense Paul S Person <psperson@old.netcom.invalid> - 2026-07-01 08:17 -0700
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Re: “Hegseth Hails First Test of America’s “Golden Dome” Missile Defense Shield” Cryptoengineer <petertrei@gmail.com> - 2026-06-29 15:51 -0400
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Re: “Hegseth Hails First Test of America’s “Golden Dome” Missile Defense Shield” Cryptoengineer <petertrei@gmail.com> - 2026-06-30 12:13 -0400
Re: Re: “Hegseth Hails First Test of America’s “Golden Dome” Missile Defense Shield” scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2026-06-29 17:01 +0000
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