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Re: the official 911 narrative is kinda bs isn't it? --- Alternatives

From	dart200 <user7160@newsgrouper.org.invalid>
Newsgroups	alt.buddha.short.fat.guy, alt.messianic, comp.theory, sci.logic, sci.skeptic
Subject	Re: the official 911 narrative is kinda bs isn't it? --- Alternatives
Date	2026-06-07 18:12 -0700
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On 6/7/26 5:52 PM, olcott wrote:
> On 6/7/2026 7:29 PM, dart200 wrote:
>> On 6/7/26 4:30 PM, olcott wrote:
>>> On 6/7/2026 5:49 PM, dart200 wrote:
>>>> On 6/7/26 12:34 PM, olcott wrote:
>>>>> On 6/7/2026 12:37 PM, dart200 wrote:
>>>>>> On 6/7/26 8:07 AM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
>>>>>>> On Sun, 7 Jun 2026 16:44:14 +0200, Moebius <moebius@example.invalid>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Am 07.06.2026 um 15:23 schrieb dart200:
>>>>>>>>> On 6/6/26 7:04 PM, Dude wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> The 9/11 fall of WTC-7 was not an inside planted destruction job.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> fires don't cause near-simultaneous failure of _every_ column 
>>>>>>>>> in the
>>>>>>>>> building
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hint: This was not just an ordinary "fire". This has to be taken in
>>>>>>>> consideration.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> WTC7 involved a fairly normal office fire, unlike WTC1/2 it was 
>>>>>> not hit by a jet
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Sophisticated Computer-simulations have SHOWN that the course of 
>>>>>>>> events
>>>>>>>> is totally "plausible" i.e. possible in this case.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> uhhh ... no computer simulation has shown how a fairly normal 
>>>>>> office fire can cause near-simultaneous failure across *all* 
>>>>>> structural columns
>>>>>>
>>>>>> there is an incredibly weak, "official" argument from NIST that:
>>>>>>   - (a) didn't show near-simultaneous failure of all structural 
>>>>>> columns
>>>>>>   - (b) didn't result in a progression that remotely matches the 
>>>>>> videos
>>>>>>   - (c) didn't model column-girder connections correctly
>>>>>>   - (d) didn't model shear studs bolting the girders to the floor 
>>>>>> above
>>>>>>
>>>>>> they left out details and didn't produce anything that looks like 
>>>>>> the videos. it is incredible how unwilling most people are in 
>>>>>> doing just a modicum of critical thinking, and witnessing it 
>>>>>> really has made me question the nature of human intelligence...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> it is worth noting that WTC7 is the *only* example of an type-1 
>>>>>> fire- safe skyscraper proposed to have collapsed due to fire as 
>>>>>> the primary and sole cause. there are in fact _very_ few examples 
>>>>>> of skyscrapers collapsing at all, let alone fully, let alone due 
>>>>>> to fire, across the entire history of building large buildings. 
>>>>>> which is really quite amazing considering our safety standards in 
>>>>>> building these things even penetrates the 3rd world quite well.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> The alternative back in Sept 2011 that the US
>>>>> government would murder thousands of US citizens
>>>>> for political advantage is (at that time) too
>>>>> unreasonably implausible.
>>>>
>>>> it was zionists in the US govt, not the US govt overall
>>>>
>>>
>>> I personally know a guy that honestly believes that the
>>> airplanes that crashed into the twin towers never existed
>>> and were planted in the minds of witnesses through CIA mind
>>> control devices. What about the video tapes? What about
>>> the airplane wreckage?
>>>
>>> It is possible that a giant purple space alien that
>>> is living inside the hollow Moon did it. It is not
>>> reasonable plausible.
>>>
>>
>> this is called a nut-picking fallacy, in an attempt to form a guilt- 
>> by- association fallacy, which falls under the larger umbrella of red 
>> herrings,
>>
>> i assure you that nothing about 9/11 truth breaks known laws of 
>> conventional physics,
>>
>> and rather unexplained physics is a contention i have with the 
>> official narrative
>>
> 
> Believing that it is an inside job ignores the airplanes.
> Believing that the airplanes never existed resolves this.
> 

WTC1 and WTC2 were hit by airplanes, but getting hit by airplanes does 
_not_ contradict the subsequent demolitions...

WTC7, a 47 story skyscraper, was not even hit by an airplane, yet it was 
_also_ demolitioned, to collapse at free fall into it's footprint
-- 
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  Re: the arithmetic hierarchy is kinda bs isn't it? Moebius <moebius@example.invalid> - 2026-06-06 04:10 +0200
    Re: the arithmetic hierarchy is kinda bs isn't it? "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2026-06-06 13:49 -0700
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    Re: the arithmetic hierarchy is kinda bs isn't it? dart200 <user7160@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-06-05 19:22 -0700
      Re: the arithmetic hierarchy is kinda bs isn't it? Moebius <moebius@example.invalid> - 2026-06-06 04:27 +0200
        Re: the arithmetic hierarchy is kinda bs isn't it? dart200 <user7160@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-06-05 19:38 -0700
          Re: the arithmetic hierarchy is kinda bs isn't it? Moebius <moebius@example.invalid> - 2026-06-06 04:46 +0200
            Re: the arithmetic hierarchy is kinda bs isn't it? dart200 <user7160@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-06-05 19:55 -0700
              Re: the arithmetic hierarchy is kinda bs isn't it? Moebius <moebius@example.invalid> - 2026-06-06 05:03 +0200
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      Re: the arithmetic hierarchy is kinda bs isn't it? dart200 <user7160@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-06-05 19:34 -0700
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          Re: the arithmetic hierarchy is kinda bs isn't it? dart200 <user7160@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-06-05 19:49 -0700
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                Re: the arithmetic hierarchy is kinda bs isn't it? Noah Sombrero <fedora@fea.st> - 2026-06-07 11:07 -0400
                Re: the official 911 narrative is kinda bs isn't it? dart200 <user7160@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-06-07 10:37 -0700
                Re: the official 911 narrative is kinda bs isn't it? Moebius <moebius@example.invalid> - 2026-06-07 19:55 +0200
                Re: the official 911 narrative is kinda bs isn't it? dart200 <user7160@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-06-07 11:23 -0700
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                Re: the official 911 narrative is kinda bs isn't it? Noah Sombrero <fedora@fea.st> - 2026-06-07 14:23 -0400
                Re: the official 911 narrative is kinda bs isn't it? --- Alternatives olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2026-06-07 14:34 -0500
                Re: the official 911 narrative is kinda bs isn't it? --- Alternatives Noah Sombrero <fedora@fea.st> - 2026-06-07 17:01 -0400
                Re: the official 911 narrative is kinda bs isn't it? --- Alternatives olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2026-06-07 16:20 -0500
                Re: the official 911 narrative is kinda bs isn't it? --- Alternatives Noah Sombrero <fedora@fea.st> - 2026-06-07 17:37 -0400
                Re: the official 911 narrative is kinda bs isn't it? --- Alternatives dart200 <user7160@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-06-07 15:49 -0700
                Re: the official 911 narrative is kinda bs isn't it? --- Alternatives olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2026-06-07 18:30 -0500
                Re: the official 911 narrative is kinda bs isn't it? --- Alternatives dart200 <user7160@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-06-07 17:29 -0700
                Re: the official 911 narrative is kinda bs isn't it? --- Alternatives olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2026-06-07 19:52 -0500
                Re: the official 911 narrative is kinda bs isn't it? --- Alternatives dart200 <user7160@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-06-07 18:12 -0700
                Re: the official 911 narrative is kinda bs isn't it? --- Alternatives olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2026-06-07 20:19 -0500
                Re: the official 911 narrative is kinda bs isn't it? --- Alternatives Noah Sombrero <fedora@fea.st> - 2026-06-07 23:06 -0400
                Re: the official 911 narrative is incredibly bs isn't it? dart200 <user7160@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-06-07 20:23 -0700
                Re: the official 911 narrative is kinda bs isn't it? --- Alternatives olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2026-06-07 22:29 -0500
                Re: the official 911 narrative is kinda bs isn't it? --- Alternatives dart200 <user7160@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-06-07 20:35 -0700
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                Re: the official 911 narrative is kinda bs isn't it? --- Alternatives dart200 <user7160@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-06-08 00:13 -0700
                Re: the official 911 narrative is kinda bs isn't it? --- Alternatives Dude <punditster@gmail.com> - 2026-06-12 18:01 -0700
                Re: the official 911 narrative is kinda bs isn't it? --- Alternatives olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2026-06-08 08:10 -0500
                Re: the official 911 narrative is kinda bs isn't it? --- Alternatives Noah Sombrero <fedora@fea.st> - 2026-06-08 09:52 -0400
                Re: the official 911 narrative is kinda bs isn't it? --- Alternatives olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2026-06-08 09:27 -0500
                Re: the official 911 narrative is kinda bs isn't it? --- Alternatives dart200 <user7160@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-06-08 09:02 -0700
                Re: the official 911 narrative is kinda bs isn't it? --- Alternatives olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2026-06-08 11:22 -0500
                Re: the official 911 narrative is kinda bs isn't it? --- Alternatives dart200 <user7160@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-06-08 09:31 -0700
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                Re: the official 911 narrative is kinda bs isn't it? --- Alternatives dart200 <user7160@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-06-08 11:08 -0700
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                Re: the official 911 narrative is kinda bs isn't it? --- Alternatives olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2026-06-08 16:44 -0500
                Re: the official 911 narrative is kinda bs isn't it? --- Alternatives dart200 <user7160@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-06-08 17:08 -0700
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                Re: the official 911 narrative is kinda bs isn't it? --- Alternatives dart200 <user7160@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-06-09 20:27 -0700
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                Re: the official 911 narrative is kinda bs isn't it? --- Alternatives dart200 <user7160@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-06-08 21:01 -0700
                Re: the official 911 narrative is kinda bs isn't it? --- Alternatives Dude <punditster@gmail.com> - 2026-06-09 19:45 -0700
                Re: the official 911 narrative is kinda bs isn't it? --- Alternatives dart200 <user7160@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-06-08 16:58 -0700
                Re: the official 911 narrative is kinda bs isn't it? --- Alternatives olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2026-06-08 20:45 -0500
                Re: the official 911 narrative is incredibly bs isn't it? dart200 <user7160@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-06-08 20:43 -0700
                Re: the official 911 narrative is incredibly bs isn't it? Noah Sombrero <fedora@fea.st> - 2026-06-09 00:08 -0400
                Re: the official 911 narrative is incredibly bs isn't it? dart200 <user7160@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-06-08 21:29 -0700
                Re: the official 911 narrative is incredibly bs isn't it? Noah Sombrero <fedora@fea.st> - 2026-06-09 00:46 -0400
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                Re: the official 911 narrative is incredibly bs isn't it? Noah Sombrero <fedora@fea.st> - 2026-06-09 09:54 -0400
                Re: the official 911 narrative is incredibly bs isn't it? dart200 <user7160@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-06-09 07:19 -0700
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                Re: the official 911 narrative is kinda bs isn't it? --- Alternatives Dude <punditster@gmail.com> - 2026-06-08 11:51 -0700
                Re: the official 911 narrative is incredibly bs isn't it? dart200 <user7160@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-06-07 20:16 -0700
                Re: the official 911 narrative is incredibly bs isn't it? Dude <punditster@gmail.com> - 2026-06-07 21:16 -0700
                Re: the official 911 narrative is kinda bs isn't it? --- Alternatives Dude <punditster@gmail.com> - 2026-06-07 20:57 -0700
                Re: the official 911 narrative is kinda bs isn't it? --- Alternatives Dude <punditster@gmail.com> - 2026-06-07 20:55 -0700
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        Re: the arithmetic hierarchy is kinda bs isn't it? "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2026-06-06 14:04 -0700
          Re: the arithmetic hierarchy is kinda bs isn't it? Moebius <moebius@example.invalid> - 2026-06-06 23:08 +0200
            Re: the arithmetic hierarchy is kinda bs isn't it? "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2026-06-06 14:30 -0700
              Re: the arithmetic hierarchy is kinda bs isn't it? Moebius <moebius@example.invalid> - 2026-06-06 23:37 +0200
                Re: the arithmetic hierarchy is kinda bs isn't it? Dude <punditster@gmail.com> - 2026-06-07 21:04 -0700
                Re: the arithmetic hierarchy is kinda bs isn't it? olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2026-06-07 23:27 -0500
                Re: the arithmetic hierarchy is kinda bs isn't it? Dude <punditster@gmail.com> - 2026-06-08 14:26 -0700
                Re: the arithmetic hierarchy is kinda bs isn't it? olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2026-06-08 16:48 -0500
          Re: the arithmetic hierarchy is kinda bs isn't it? Dude <punditster@gmail.com> - 2026-06-07 21:00 -0700
            Re: the arithmetic hierarchy is kinda bs isn't it? "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2026-06-07 22:37 -0700
              Re: the arithmetic hierarchy is kinda bs isn't it? Moebius <moebius@example.invalid> - 2026-06-09 06:44 +0200
                Re: the arithmetic hierarchy is kinda bs isn't it? Moebius <moebius@example.invalid> - 2026-06-09 06:47 +0200
                Re: the arithmetic hierarchy is kinda bs isn't it? Moebius <moebius@example.invalid> - 2026-06-09 06:48 +0200
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        Re: the arithmetic hierarchy is kinda bs isn't it? dart200 <user7160@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-06-05 21:05 -0700
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            Re: the arithmetic hierarchy is kinda bs isn't it? dart200 <user7160@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-06-05 22:55 -0700
      Re: the arithmetic hierarchy is kinda bs isn't it? "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2026-06-06 13:51 -0700
        Re: the arithmetic hierarchy is kinda bs isn't it? Moebius <moebius@example.invalid> - 2026-06-06 22:54 +0200
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