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Re: PSA: Using the PC adb to save a list of all Android apps installed by the user in order

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AJL wrote:
>>Android works better without the Google account than it does with it.
> 
> YMMV. I find having Google accounts(3) to be very useful. And if I ever
>  change my mind they are quite easily cancelled.

Let's be clear and use Occam's Razor when making assessments, since I have,
oh, I don't know, dozens of Google Accounts, but none set up on a device.

The instant we put any account, let alone a mothership account, on any
computing device, our privacy has disappeared from that computing device.

Luckily, all common consumer platforms (other than iOS) actually work
*better* without the Mothership Account on that device, which is a bonus.

> 
>>If we only talk about Android phones, at least at the start, with 
>>probably little knowledge, they buy them on recommendation by the sales 
>>assistant in the phone shop based on price and (perhaps) what they want 
>>to use the phone for. Maybe the customer has specific interests such as 
>>wanting a good camera and screen for viewing.
> 
>>I'm pretty sure that if they don't have a Google account when they walk 
>>in, by the time they leave the shop they'll have one with the help of 
>>the sales assistant! They'll then be shown how to use Google's cloud 
>>storage and how to backup to it. Location, wifi, and Bluetooth will be 
>>switched on.
> 
> Yup. All very handy capabilities and needed for my various Android apps.
>  Again YMMV.

I get it that only 0.001% of the people on earth will be able to comprehend
what I'm about to say, but I responded prior that when you set up a new
computing device (on all but iOS), you get EXACTLY your menu system back.
 <https://i.postimg.cc/brHnQj4Y/pic-menu.jpg>

That means, when you set up a new Windows PC, your menus are the same menus
(literally exactly) as those you had when you set up Windows XP (they're
literally the same files, although over time you've tweaked the menus).
 <https://i.postimg.cc/jSNb7bkF/pspdf.jpg> 

Note there are inevitable minor tweaks over the decades, but essentially
you do the same thing now you did two decades ago, so menus just repeat.

>>I really doubt that privacy will be mentioned 
> 
> Privacy?? Unless you live in a cave your life is already online.

That's simply not true. 
Only people who don't understand privacy would say what you said.

It's like saying gravity is a force. 

Only people who don't understand gravity would call it a force.
Only people who don't understand privacy would say it's gone.

It's like saying you're "weightless" in space.
You're not weightless.
But people who don't understand gravity say you're weightless.

It's like people saying recreational divers breathe oxygen.
They're breathing air. Compressed air. But air nonetheless.

My point is the only people who say you can't have privacy are people who
don't understand what privacy is. 

You can have privacy.
The very first step is to not put the mothership account on the device.

> Go to the
>  doctor? Have a credit card? Have a drivers license? Pay taxes to various
>  governments (I do to 3)? Pension and/or SS deposits (I have both)? Etc,
>  etc, ect. I think that logically you are in much more privacy danger there
>  than being picked out of Google's billions of accounts for surveillance.

These are not related to the phone.

>>(and the way some people 
>>talk on their phone with the volume on full so you have no problem 
>>hearing what they and the other party are saying, means they have no 
>>interest in spoken privacy either!).
> 
> Now I agree but not for privacy reasons. They're just  PITA to have to
>  listen to...

I don't have a beef about people talking on the phone, but I will mention
that when I first encountered hidden ear buds, a decade or so ago, I
started wondering why people were just talking "to themselves".

I was ignorant, at that time, many years ago, about ear buds.
Now I talk on the phone using my hearing aids, so it's me too now.

:)
-- 
Nobody who complains about privacy has a case if they set up an account.

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PSA: Using the PC adb to save a list of all Android apps installed by the user in order Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-05-31 10:46 -0600
  Re: PSA: Using the PC adb to save a list of all Android apps installed by the user in order Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-05-31 10:51 -0600
    Re: PSA: Using the PC adb to save a list of all Android apps installed by the user in order Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-05-31 11:16 -0600
      Re: PSA: Using the PC adb to save a list of all Android apps installed by the user in order Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-05-31 11:47 -0600
        Re: PSA: Using the PC adb to save a list of all Android apps installed by the user in order Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-05-31 11:52 -0600
          Re: PSA: Using the PC adb to save a list of all Android apps installed by the user in order Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-06-01 16:26 -0600
    Re: PSA: Using the PC adb to save a list of all Android apps installed by the user in order Jeff Layman <Jeff@invalid.invalid> - 2026-05-31 20:29 +0100
      Re: PSA: Using the PC adb to save a list of all Android apps installed by the user in order Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-05-31 14:19 -0600
        Re: PSA: Using the PC adb to save a list of all Android apps installed by the user in order Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-05-31 18:36 -0600
          Re: PSA: Using the PC adb to save a list of all Android apps installed by the user in order Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-05-31 20:25 -0600
            Re: PSA: Using the PC adb to save a list of all Android apps installed by the user in order Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-05-31 21:28 -0600
              Re: PSA: Using the PC adb to save a list of all Android apps installed by the user in order Skeptic <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-01 20:45 +0100
                Re: PSA: Using the PC adb to save a list of all Android apps installed by the user in order Ch1ffr3punk <ch1ffr3punk@gmail.com> - 2026-06-01 20:12 +0000
                Re: PSA: Using the PC adb to save a list of all Android apps installed by the user in order Jeff Layman <Jeff@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-01 22:39 +0100
                Re: PSA: Using the PC adb to save a list of all Android apps installed by the user in order "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-06-01 23:45 +0200
                Re: PSA: Using the PC adb to save a list of all Android apps installed by the user in order Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-06-01 15:55 -0600
                Re: PSA: Using the PC adb to save a list of all Android apps installed by the user in order Jeff Layman <Jeff@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-02 12:49 +0100
                Re: PSA: Using the PC adb to save a list of all Android apps installed by the user in order "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-06-02 17:50 +0200
                Re: PSA: Using the PC adb to save a list of all Android apps installed by the user in order Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-06-02 18:45 -0600
                Re: PSA: Using the PC adb to save a list of all Android apps installed by the user in order "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-06-03 11:21 +0200
                Re: PSA: Using the PC adb to save a list of all Android apps installed by the user in order Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-06-03 06:59 -0600
                Re: PSA: Using the PC adb to save a list of all Android apps installed by the user in order AJL <noemail@none.com> - 2026-06-02 16:55 +0000
                Re: PSA: Using the PC adb to save a list of all Android apps installed by the user in order Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-06-02 20:37 -0600
                Re: PSA: Using the PC adb to save a list of all Android apps installed by the user in order AJL <noemail@none.com> - 2026-06-03 14:56 +0000
                Re: PSA: Using the PC adb to save a list of all Android apps installed by the user in order Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-06-03 18:08 -0600
                Re: PSA: Using the PC adb to save a list of all Android apps installed by the user in order "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-06-04 08:31 +0200
                Re: PSA: Using the PC adb to save a list of all Android apps installed by the user in order Jeff Layman <Jeff@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-04 08:58 +0100
                Re: PSA: Using the PC adb to save a list of all Android apps installed by the user in order Ch1ffr3punk <ch1ffr3punk@gmail.com> - 2026-06-02 09:33 +0000
                Re: PSA: Using the PC adb to save a list of all Android apps installed by the user in order Jeff Layman <Jeff@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-02 12:55 +0100
                Re: PSA: Using the PC adb to save a list of all Android apps installed by the user in order Ch1ffr3punk <ch1ffr3punk@gmail.com> - 2026-06-02 11:58 +0000
                Re: PSA: Using the PC adb to save a list of all Android apps installed by the user in order Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-06-02 06:41 -0600
                Re: PSA: Using the PC adb to save a list of all Android apps installed by the user in order Ch1ffr3punk <ch1ffr3punk@gmail.com> - 2026-06-02 19:28 +0000
                Re: PSA: Using the PC adb to save a list of all Android apps installed by the user in order Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-06-02 20:53 -0600
                Re: PSA: Using the PC adb to save a list of all Android apps installed by the user in order Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-06-02 20:55 -0600
                Re: PSA: Using the PC adb to save a list of all Android apps installed by the user in order Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-06-01 15:56 -0600
              Re: PSA: Using the PC adb to save a list of all Android apps installed by the user in order Jeff Layman <Jeff@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-01 21:17 +0100
                Re: PSA: Using the PC adb to save a list of all Android apps installed by the user in order Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-06-01 16:07 -0600
          Re: PSA: Using the PC adb to save a list of all Android apps installed by the user in order "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-06-01 12:05 +0200
            Re: PSA: Using the PC adb to save a list of all Android apps installed by the user in order Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-06-01 10:14 -0600

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