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| From | Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> |
|---|---|
| Newsgroups | comp.unix.programmer |
| Subject | Re: groff: how to completely disable hyphenation? |
| Date | 2026-06-02 05:58 -0400 |
| Organization | A noiseless patient Spider |
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On Tue, 6/2/2026 4:21 AM, boltar@caprica.universe wrote:
> On Tue, 2 Jun 2026 00:09:50 -0000 (UTC)
> Lawrence =?iso-8859-13?q?D=FFOliveiro?= <ldo@nz.invalid> gabbled:
>> On Mon, 1 Jun 2026 08:17:22 -0000 (UTC), boltar wrote:
>>
>>> On Mon, 1 Jun 2026 00:11:23 -0000 (UTC), Lawrence D’Oliveiro wrote:
>>>>
>>>> On Sun, 31 May 2026 07:25:33 -0000 (UTC), boltar wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> People are too dismissive of these systems - they're a lot smarter
>>>>> than a lot of people particularly in IT would like to believe.
>>>>
>>>> We look at those who get so attached to using these systems that
>>>> they end up overlooking some quite glaring shortcomings.
>>>
>>> Yes, they certainly make some mistakes. But they're not simply turbo
>>> charged markov chains that some people seem to think, there is some
>>> kind of thinking going on.
>>
>> I rest my case.
>
> You didn't have a case. Thinking doesn't mean conciousness, it simply means
> the application of logic in an intelligent way.
>
This is the first exposure I had to "automatons", in high school.
One of my fellow students, did a port of ELIZA, to the language
our terminal used. He converted the program to APL (Iverson/IBM).
(Today, that person has a PhD in Artificial Intelligence, and
presumably has retired. His hobby activity, did give him
something to do.)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ELIZA
"ELIZA is an early natural language processing computer program developed
from 1964 to 1967[1] at MIT by Joseph Weizenbaum.
Weizenbaum intended the program as a method to explore communication between
humans and machines.
He was surprised that some people, including his secretary, attributed human-like feelings <===
to the computer program,[3] a phenomenon that came to be called the ELIZA effect.
"
Even back then, there were a few people who could not separate truth from fiction,
when examining the output. The output wasn't exactly compelling. While testing
that port, we spent most of our time laughing at the corny output.
Having that experience back then, makes it easier to have some perspective
when viewing how this version works. Who would have guessed this would happen.
Paul
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