Re: Analogue to Digital Voice issues

From	grinch <grinch@somewhere.net>
Newsgroups	uk.telecom
Subject	Re: Analogue to Digital Voice issues
Date	2026-05-22 10:26 +0100
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On 21/05/2026 20:04, Davey wrote:
> On Thu, 21 May 2026 19:08:33 +0100
> David Wade <g4ugm@dave.invalid> wrote:
> 
>>   Wade <g4ugm@dave.invalid>
>> Subject: Re: Analogue to Digital Voice issues
>> Date: Thu, 21 May 2026 19:08:33 +0100
>> User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird
>> Newsgroups: uk.telecom
>> Organisation: A noiseless patient Spider
>>
>> On 20/05/2026 22:27, Jeff Layman wrote:
>>> I've just changed from analogue (BT) to Digital Voice (Zen. I've
>>> been using them as my ISP for 10 years. FTTC for the last two
>>> years). The phone is a Panasonic DECT Cordless KX-TG8062E, 13 years
>>> old.
>>>
>>> It wasn't without issue. Firstly, I hadn't noticed that the phone
>>> plug to the NTE5 (431A) and that to the Fritz!Box router (RJ11-4)
>>> weren't the same! At first I couldn't find the 431A - RJ11 adaptor,
>>> so used a spare RJ11-4 - RJ11-4 cable I had. After rebooting the
>>> router, I soon got a dialling tone on the DECT handset. As I keyed
>>> a number, I heard the tones when the keys were pressed; after a few
>>> seconds I heard an engaged tone. When I tried again a few minutes
>>> later the same thing happened, and again with a different number. I
>>> contacted the first number with my mobile without problem, and was
>>> told the phone hadn't been engaged. I then called my mobile from
>>> the DECT phone. I could hear ringing tones on my DECT phone, but
>>> the mobile didn't ring.
>>>
>>> I emailed Zen, and they replied quickly that there had been "an
>>> issue with the finalisation" (whatever that means). Next morning, I
>>> was able to call and receive calls without problem. So the issue
>>> was resolved by Zen within a few hours.
>>>
>>> There remains a strange problem, though, when using the DECT
>>> answerphone. This had always worked without problem when analogue,
>>> but I tried it calling the phone from my mobile, and letting it go
>>> to answerphone mode. After recording a few words, I touched "end
>>> call" on the mobile. I immediately heard about a half-dozen or so
>>> "engaged" tones on the mobile before the call disconnected. Even
>>> more oddly, when I played back my recorded words the engaged tones
>>> had been recorded too!
>>
>> Widely reported problem with answerphones and the Fritz!box.
>>
> 
> Thankfully I have never had that problem.
> 

Neither have I

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Analogue to Digital Voice issues Jeff Layman <Jeff@invalid.invalid> - 2026-05-20 22:27 +0100
  Re: Analogue to Digital Voice issues Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2026-05-21 07:40 +0100
    Re: Analogue to Digital Voice issues Jeff Layman <Jeff@invalid.invalid> - 2026-05-21 08:10 +0100
      Re: Analogue to Digital Voice issues Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2026-05-21 08:58 +0100
        Re: Analogue to Digital Voice issues Theo <theom+news@chiark.greenend.org.uk> - 2026-05-21 11:26 +0100
          Re: Analogue to Digital Voice issues David Woolley <david@ex.djwhome.demon.invalid> - 2026-05-22 11:46 +0100
  Re: Analogue to Digital Voice issues Richmond <dnomhcir@gmx.com> - 2026-05-21 09:11 +0100
  Re: Analogue to Digital Voice issues Nick Finnigan <nix@genie.co.uk> - 2026-05-21 10:27 +0100
    Re: Analogue to Digital Voice issues Davey <davey@example.invalid> - 2026-05-21 10:37 +0100
      Re: Analogue to Digital Voice issues Trolleybus <ken@birchanger.com> - 2026-05-23 12:13 +0100
        Re: Analogue to Digital Voice issues Davey <davey@example.invalid> - 2026-05-23 12:44 +0100
          Re: Analogue to Digital Voice issues "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-05-23 20:29 +0100
          Re: Analogue to Digital Voice issues Trolleybus <ken@birchanger.com> - 2026-05-24 10:42 +0100
            Re: Analogue to Digital Voice issues Jeff Layman <Jeff@invalid.invalid> - 2026-05-24 11:30 +0100
              Re: Analogue to Digital Voice issues Davey <davey@example.invalid> - 2026-05-24 13:36 +0100
                Re: Analogue to Digital Voice issues Jeff Layman <Jeff@invalid.invalid> - 2026-05-24 15:24 +0100
                Re: Analogue to Digital Voice issues Davey <davey@example.invalid> - 2026-05-24 16:41 +0100
                Re: Analogue to Digital Voice issues Trolleybus <ken@birchanger.com> - 2026-05-25 10:26 +0100
                Re: Analogue to Digital Voice issues Davey <davey@example.invalid> - 2026-05-25 11:29 +0100
                Re: Analogue to Digital Voice issues Trolleybus <ken@birchanger.com> - 2026-05-26 09:13 +0100
              Re: Analogue to Digital Voice issues Trolleybus <ken@birchanger.com> - 2026-05-25 10:28 +0100
                Re: Analogue to Digital Voice issues Jeff Layman <Jeff@invalid.invalid> - 2026-05-25 12:35 +0100
                Re: Analogue to Digital Voice issues David Wade <g4ugm@dave.invalid> - 2026-05-25 17:45 +0100
                Re: Analogue to Digital Voice issues Trolleybus <ken@birchanger.com> - 2026-05-26 09:16 +0100
                Re: Analogue to Digital Voice issues Trolleybus <ken@birchanger.com> - 2026-05-26 09:15 +0100
  Re: Analogue to Digital Voice issues David Wade <g4ugm@dave.invalid> - 2026-05-21 19:08 +0100
    Re: Analogue to Digital Voice issues Davey <davey@example.invalid> - 2026-05-21 20:04 +0100
      Re: Analogue to Digital Voice issues grinch <grinch@somewhere.net> - 2026-05-22 10:26 +0100

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