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Re: Great steak

From Cindy Hamilton <chamilton5280@invalid.com>
Newsgroups rec.food.cooking
Subject Re: Great steak
Date 2026-05-17 10:26 +0000
Organization A noiseless patient Spider
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On 2026-05-17, dsi1 <user4746@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:
>
> Hound Adams <ha@inv.alid> posted:
>
>> On Sat, 16 May 2026 17:28:49 GMT
>> dsi1 <user4746@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:
>> 
>> > Cindy Hamilton <chamilton5280@invalid.com> posted:
>> > 
>> > > On 2026-05-16, dsi1 <user4746@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:  
>> > > >
>> > > > ItsJoanNotJoAnn@webtv.net <user4742@newsgrouper.org.invalid>
>> > > > posted: 
>> > > >> 
>> > > >> Cindy Hamilton <chamilton5280@invalid.com> posted:
>> > > >>   
>> > > >> > On 2026-05-14, dsi1 <user4746@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:  
>> > > >> > >
>> > > >> > > Here's some mainland fries and Hawaiian fries. Da Hawaiians
>> > > >> > > like to dump gravy on most things - except fries.
>> > > >> > >
>> > > >> > > https://photos.app.goo.gl/LV9KWUwRgrLzQ32JA
>> > > >> > >
>> > > >> > > https://photos.app.goo.gl/uXN1TUGwdQHppbLo9  
>> > > >> > 
>> > > >> > Nope.  Neither of those pictures looks like any fries I've ever
>> > > >> > been served.  
>> > > >> 
>> > > >> 
>> > > >> Me, neither.
>> > > >> 
>> > > >> The first picture looks like someone ground up a an old 45rpm
>> > > >> record and sprinkled it on top of those poor fries.
>> > > >> 
>> > > >> The second one looks like diarrhea dumped on those equally
>> > > >> mistreated fries. 
>> > > >> ~  
>> > > >
>> > > > The good folks of Montana would disagree with you. That's some
>> > > > perfectly normal Montana fries with a Montana burger.   
>> > > 
>> > > "Yes, fries are served with gravy in Montana! While it isn't the
>> > > standard default everywhere, you will easily find them at many
>> > > pubs, diners, and ski resort towns."
>> > > 
>> > > You found one of the places that serves gravy on fries and ASSume
>> > > it's universal in Montana.
>> > >  
>> > 
>> > My guess is that you've never been to Montana. Those people put gravy
>> > on everything. I gotta say that it's kind of a weak gravy. 
>> > 
>> > https://photos.app.goo.gl/iVTU6t5BwmgeFrBM8
>> > 
>> > 
>> > 
>> >  
>> 
>> Classic cold country fare.
>> 
>> It's like the Canajuns and their sublime poutine:
>> 
>> https://xoxobella.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/06/Canadian_Poutine.jpg
>> 
>
> One of the things people in Montana like to do is dig holes and pull out all 
> manner of things from mother earth. As such, there is a tradition of eating 
> pasties. I was surprised that they like to serve it with gravy because how does
> one get gravy deep in the bowels of the earth? I'm probably one of the few persons
> on this rock that makes pasties. They're great for a quick lunch but I never 
> thought of putting some gravy on it. I have eaten them with ketchup though. That's
> about as far as I'm willing to go.
>
> https://photos.app.goo.gl/9jBANhbmCSnWLCBo8
>
> https://kitchenjoyblog.com/michigan-pasties-meat-pies-pan-gravy/

I see you've included a Michigan link, despite talking about
Montana.

In the Upper Peninsula, where pasties roam freely in herds,
there's a controversy between gravy and ketchup on pasties.

https://www.uptravel.com/blog/post/ketchup-vs-gravy/

I'm on Team Gravy.  The only use for ketchup is as a base
for barbecue sauce.  I look away when my husband uses it on
his fries.

-- 
Cindy Hamilton

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      Re: Great steak dsi1 <user4746@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-05-13 22:36 +0000
        Re: Great steak Bryan Simmons <bryangsimmons@gmail.com> - 2026-05-13 18:16 -0500
        Re: Great steak Hound Adams <ha@inv.alid> - 2026-05-14 11:27 -0600
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      Re: Great steak dsi1 <user4746@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-05-13 22:44 +0000
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        Re: Great steak Bruce <Bruce@invalid.invalid> - 2026-05-14 15:04 +1000
          Re: Great steak dsi1 <user4746@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-05-14 19:36 +0000
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              Re: Great steak Hound Adams <ha@inv.alid> - 2026-05-14 13:56 -0600
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            Re: Great steak Dave Smith <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca> - 2026-05-14 17:02 -0400
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            Re: Great steak Cindy Hamilton <chamilton5280@invalid.com> - 2026-05-14 21:45 +0000
              Re: Great steak Hound Adams <ha@inv.alid> - 2026-05-14 16:08 -0600
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                Re: Great steak ItsJoanNotJoAnn@webtv.net <user4742@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-05-15 00:59 +0000
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                Re: Great steak Hound Adams <ha@inv.alid> - 2026-05-14 17:14 -0600
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                Re: Great steak jmquown <j_mcquown@comcast.net> - 2026-05-15 18:34 -0400
                Re: Great steak Bruce <Bruce@invalid.invalid> - 2026-05-16 08:44 +1000
                Re: Great steak Hound Adams <ha@inv.alid> - 2026-05-15 23:11 -0600
                Re: Great steak dsi1 <user4746@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-05-16 03:27 +0000
                Re: Great steak Cindy Hamilton <chamilton5280@invalid.com> - 2026-05-16 09:32 +0000
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                Re: Great steak dsi1 <user4746@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-05-16 17:28 +0000
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                Re: Great steak dsi1 <user4746@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-05-17 06:50 +0000
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                Re: Great steak Cindy Hamilton <chamilton5280@invalid.com> - 2026-05-17 21:40 +0000
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                Re: Great steak Cindy Hamilton <chamilton5280@invalid.com> - 2026-05-18 09:21 +0000
                Re: Great steak Pierre Choderlos de Laclos <bruce@invalid.invalid> - 2026-05-18 19:34 +1000
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                Re: Great steak Dave Smith <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca> - 2026-05-17 14:53 -0400
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                Re: Great steak Hound Adams <ha@inv.alid> - 2026-05-17 14:12 -0600
                Re: Great steak Graham <g.stereo@shaw.ca> - 2026-05-17 14:01 -0600
                Re: Great steak Hound Adams <ha@inv.alid> - 2026-05-17 13:03 -0600
                Re: Great steak Cindy Hamilton <chamilton5280@invalid.com> - 2026-05-17 21:46 +0000
                Re: Great steak Hank Rogers <Hank@nospam.invalid> - 2026-05-17 17:07 -0500
                Re: Great steak Hound Adams <ha@inv.alid> - 2026-05-17 22:30 -0600
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                Re: Great steak Hound Adams <ha@inv.alid> - 2026-05-17 10:15 -0600
                Re: Great steak dsi1 <user4746@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-05-17 21:19 +0000
                Re: Great steak Hound Adams <ha@inv.alid> - 2026-05-17 16:01 -0600
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              Re: Great steak dsi1 <user4746@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-05-16 08:02 +0000
                Re: Great steak Hound Adams <ha@inv.alid> - 2026-05-16 10:58 -0600
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                Re: Great steak Cindy Hamilton <chamilton5280@invalid.com> - 2026-05-16 17:54 +0000
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                Re: Great steak dsi1 <user4746@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-05-16 19:53 +0000
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