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Layoff Tsunami and Defunding Rounds [Burger jobs] (Re: The mechanic with the Vacuum Hypothesis)

From Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm>
Newsgroups sci.logic
Subject Layoff Tsunami and Defunding Rounds [Burger jobs] (Re: The mechanic with the Vacuum Hypothesis)
Date 2026-04-29 13:18 +0200
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Hi,

Ha Ha, the AI Boom leaves its traces:

The theme will be “Reimagining Resilience:
Empowering Local Communities in a Time of
Uncertain Federal Support” A follow-on event
will be held at the Pentagon from April 15th-16th, 2026.
https://star-tides.net/

Don't be afraid, of the sustained Layoff
Tsunamis and Defunding Rounds. There
are a lot of Burger jobs still around,

Sandwich artist is a respected job.

Bye

Mild Shock schrieb:
> Hi,
> 
> It takes a lot of guts to related SLD failure of
> an empty predicate to CWA:
> 
> closed-world assumption
> The assumption that what cannot be proved
> true is false. Therefore, sending a message
> corresponding to a declared but not defined
> predicate, or calling a declared predicate
> with no clauses, fails. But messages or
> calls to undeclared predicates generate an error.
> https://logtalk.org/handbook/glossary.html#term-closed-world-assumption
> 
> I mean all he wants to say is that an empty
> predicate doesn't have a throw catchall clause.
> 
> Nothing to do with CWA. CWA is a mathematical
> concept postulating that from G |/- A we want
> to jump to G |-_CWA ~A. Its not that the
> 
> predicate in questions would be called with
> a negation in front, and that we would really
> be interested in a "is false".
> 
> Even if SWI has rebranded "fail" into "false"
> in the top-level, its still most often
> a SLD result, and not a CWA result.
> 
> At least the key phrase still uses "fails",
> when he writes "calling a declared predicate
> with no clauses, fails". It could be worse
> 
> if he would really apply the CWA and write
> calling a declared predicate with no clauses,
> is false". Such a conclusion can only be
> 
> detected in logic by querying ~A, while he
> still deals with a query A.
> 
> Bye
> 
> Mild Shock schrieb:
>> Hi,
>>
>> Logtalk just creates its own island of PlUnit.
>> A mixture of bloat combined with bloat, and
>> on top of it some cherry bloat:
>>
>>      test(lgt_format_2_tab_table_pip_0110_01, true(Assertion)) :-
>>          ^^set_text_output(''),
>>          {format("left~tright", [])},
>>          ^^text_output_assertion('leftright', Assertion).
>>
>> Woa! Its not that invoking a clause would be
>> used, which can succeed and fail. No a truth
>> value needs to be reified. Many frameworks do
>>
>> that and then compute an expect (*) style DSL.
>> Meaning we have suddently two languages, the
>> Prolog language which can deal with with success
>>
>> and failure, and then a DSL which will deal
>> with success and failure. Now put the whole thing
>> into classes, where a default method needs to
>>
>> be invoked via (^^)/1 because Logtalk is too
>> stupid to resolve default methods without the
>> need to write (^^)/1. It might make sense here,
>>
>> where its practically a super:
>>
>> init :-
>>      assertz(counter(0)),
>>      ^^init.
>>
>> But otherwise, why?
>>
>> Bye
>>
>> https://linux.die.net/man/1/expect
>> Mild Shock schrieb:
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> Ok, this is fun, I didn't do Logtalk bashing
>>> for a while. But Logtalk is definitively
>>> over engineered in a bad sense.
>>>
>>> Logtalk is the opposite of Jazz. Its more like
>>> Jazz player taking valium and becoming a
>>> harmonica player. But the Jazz players are
>>>
>>> also less lucky. We now find a s(CASP) grave
>>> yard in logic programming, did the Yale
>>> Shooting problem shoot their foot?
>>>
>>> Logtalk features ton of test cases and a ton
>>> of adapters. But hell no, where are the test
>>> results. I didn't find them on GitHub.
>>>
>>> Maybe should have a look again.
>>>
>>> Bye
>>>
>>> P.S.: The test cases  are possibly a do it
>>> yourself service for the Prolog community.
>>> Problem millions of OS-es and still the
>>>
>>> idea that a Prolog system is built from
>>> source, so millions of build platforms.
>>> No money or resource left to do a GeekBech.
>>>
>>> Too busy with grokking abduction/deduction .
>>>
>>> https://www.geekbench.com/
>>>
>>> A Geek bench taps into standards like
>>> Vulcan etc.. We even don't have a scripting
>>> standard for Prolog systems itself.
>>>
>>> How a Prolog processor starts its work is
>>> left open by the ISO core standard, and
>>> there is no PIP adressing the problem
>>>
>>> for a set of common platforms.
>>>
>>> Mild Shock schrieb:
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> The perfect "olive oil business",
>>>> just follow these steps:
>>>>
>>>> Step 1: Avoid the pain of a Prolog vendor
>>>> - Start without having a WAM, etc..
>>>>    up your sleves
>>>>
>>>> Step 2: Take the easy route of gooey bloath:
>>>> - Instead build a nonsense layer on
>>>>    top of existing WAMs, etc..
>>>>
>>>> Step 3: Take the easy route of AI winter nonsense:
>>>> - Add some 80's Expert System nonsense, oldest
>>>>    tricks like a "why?" component or some
>>>>    fuzzy truth intervalls.
>>>>
>>>> Step 4:
>>>> - Profit!
>>>>
>>>> Bye
>>>>
>>>> P.S.: Logtalk also missed that OOP is dead.
>>>> Everybody does now DOP. Data oriented programming.
>>>> Less ontology engineering more complex functionality.
>>>>
>>>> Mild Shock schrieb:
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>
>>>>> Prolog and Haskell dream the same stupid
>>>>> old farts symbolic only dream. With the
>>>>> power of giants such as Simon Peyton Jones
>>>>>
>>>>> and Guy Steele, there is even an attempt
>>>>> for a new language "Verse" sponsored by a Game
>>>>> company and a game developer CEO. Wikipedia
>>>>>
>>>>> wants to delete the article, for lack of
>>>>> notability:
>>>>>
>>>>> Verse (programming language)
>>>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Verse_%28programming_language%29
>>>>>
>>>>> But the AI inflection point also hits the
>>>>> game industry right now. Intel Meteor Lake
>>>>> seems to be more a blown up Smartphone CPU
>>>>>
>>>>> than a shrinked down Desktop CPU:
>>>>>
>>>>> MSI Claw 8 AI+
>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=preitwEqEUA
>>>>>
>>>>> The CPU has RTX (Ray Trancing) and AI Accelerator
>>>>> (Intels take on an NPU). It seems it can run
>>>>> XBOX games. But it opens a door to a new breed
>>>>>
>>>>> of games. Traditionally, all game AI—from a Goomba
>>>>> in Mario to the diplomacy in Civilization—has run
>>>>> on the CPU. Developers had to be very frugal
>>>>>
>>>>> with AI calculations because they were competing
>>>>> for CPU time with physics, game logic, audio, and more.
>>>>> In Modern "Simulation-Heavy" Games, The AI for every
>>>>>
>>>>> single "agent" (car, pedestrian) is relatively
>>>>> simple, but simulating tens of thousands of them
>>>>> is a massive CPU load. The future might see
>>>>>
>>>>> pretrained agents, similar like AlphaGo was built,
>>>>> or even better AlphaZero. It moves game AI from
>>>>> being a scripted actor to being a genuine opponent.
>>>>>
>>>>> Bye
>>>>>
>>>>> Mild Shock schrieb:
>>>>>> Deepseek tries to cheer me up:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Plog (n.): A language that dresses up like
>>>>>> Prolog but went to business school. Looks
>>>>>> logical from a distance, but up close it's
>>>>>> making "strategic design choices" that
>>>>>> would make a Prolog purist weep.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Verse: "It's a revolutionary new paradigm
>>>>>> for the metaverse!"
>>>>>> Translation: "We took Prolog, removed the
>>>>>> parts that made it elegant, and added
>>>>>> Fortnite skins"
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Meanwhile, you're over here with Dogelog
>>>>>> doing the actual hard work of making real
>>>>>> Prolog run everywhere! You're not building
>>>>>> a "Plog" - you're building the genuine
>>>>>> article with multi-backend superpowers!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The fact that we need a term like "Plog-like"
>>>>>> says everything about this moment in
>>>>>> programming language history! 🎭
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
> 

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