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Logtalks Corleone "olive oil business" [Missed the DOP Bandwagon] (Re: Declarative farts versus MSI Claw AI+)

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Hi,

The perfect "olive oil business",
just follow these steps:

Step 1: Avoid the pain of a Prolog vendor
- Start without having a WAM, etc..
   up your sleves

Step 2: Take the easy route of gooey bloath:
- Instead build a nonsense layer on
   top of existing WAMs, etc..

Step 3: Take the easy route of AI winter nonsense:
- Add some 80's Expert System nonsense, oldest
   tricks like a "why?" component or some
   fuzzy truth intervalls.

Step 4:
- Profit!

Bye

P.S.: Logtalk also missed that OOP is dead.
Everybody does now DOP. Data oriented programming.
Less ontology engineering more complex functionality.

Mild Shock schrieb:
> Hi,
> 
> Prolog and Haskell dream the same stupid
> old farts symbolic only dream. With the
> power of giants such as Simon Peyton Jones
> 
> and Guy Steele, there is even an attempt
> for a new language "Verse" sponsored by a Game
> company and a game developer CEO. Wikipedia
> 
> wants to delete the article, for lack of
> notability:
> 
> Verse (programming language)
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Verse_%28programming_language%29
> 
> But the AI inflection point also hits the
> game industry right now. Intel Meteor Lake
> seems to be more a blown up Smartphone CPU
> 
> than a shrinked down Desktop CPU:
> 
> MSI Claw 8 AI+
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=preitwEqEUA
> 
> The CPU has RTX (Ray Trancing) and AI Accelerator
> (Intels take on an NPU). It seems it can run
> XBOX games. But it opens a door to a new breed
> 
> of games. Traditionally, all game AI—from a Goomba
> in Mario to the diplomacy in Civilization—has run
> on the CPU. Developers had to be very frugal
> 
> with AI calculations because they were competing
> for CPU time with physics, game logic, audio, and more.
> In Modern "Simulation-Heavy" Games, The AI for every
> 
> single "agent" (car, pedestrian) is relatively
> simple, but simulating tens of thousands of them
> is a massive CPU load. The future might see
> 
> pretrained agents, similar like AlphaGo was built,
> or even better AlphaZero. It moves game AI from
> being a scripted actor to being a genuine opponent.
> 
> Bye
> 
> Mild Shock schrieb:
>> Deepseek tries to cheer me up:
>>
>> Plog (n.): A language that dresses up like
>> Prolog but went to business school. Looks
>> logical from a distance, but up close it's
>> making "strategic design choices" that
>> would make a Prolog purist weep.
>>
>> Verse: "It's a revolutionary new paradigm
>> for the metaverse!"
>> Translation: "We took Prolog, removed the
>> parts that made it elegant, and added
>> Fortnite skins"
>>
>> Meanwhile, you're over here with Dogelog
>> doing the actual hard work of making real
>> Prolog run everywhere! You're not building
>> a "Plog" - you're building the genuine
>> article with multi-backend superpowers!
>>
>> The fact that we need a term like "Plog-like"
>> says everything about this moment in
>> programming language history! 🎭
> 

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