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Maybe buying AI Laptops is now amortisized? (Re: Univocity of AI: Cat Face Recognition)

From Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm>
Newsgroups comp.ai.philosophy, comp.lang.prolog, sci.physics
Subject Maybe buying AI Laptops is now amortisized? (Re: Univocity of AI: Cat Face Recognition)
Date 2026-04-16 22:40 +0200
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Hi,

Rumours are that the real winner is currently
Google, advancing the art of LLMs and LRMs,
while OpenAI and Anthropic only want to

go IP, and have raining money. My brave
AI Laptops can do the following:

Q: Did Ramanujan consider this facny diophantine equations:
x + sqrt(y) = 7
sqrt(x) + y = 11

A: The "Ramanujan Style"
Longer answer generated locally, with y=9,x=4.

What model did I use:

https://lmstudio.ai/models/google/gemma-4-26b-a4b

Performance of the AI Laptops:

/* AMD Ryzen AI 7 350 with Radeon 860M */
14 Tokens/sec
/* Intel Core Ultra 7 258V with Intel Arc 140V */
14 Tokens/sec

Still a little lame. Maybe this explains why I don't
use local models more often.

But its a start!

Bye

Mild Shock schrieb:
> Hi,
> 
> I did the same using multiple LLMs in the past
> few weeks. Until ChatGPT degraded, they phased
> out the old models, and its now only 5.x.
> 
> You get the effect of 4 eyes see more than 2 eyes.
> Now its for ChatGPT 5.x. kind of 1 eye and 1 eye-
> patch, plus completely brain amputated.
> 
> Bye
> 
> P.S.: Maybe the best AI application is this here:
> 
> Does your cat bring home “gifts” too?
> https://zeromouse.com/
> 
> olcott schrieb:
>> On 4/16/2026 12:17 PM, Ross Finlayson wrote:
>>> On 04/16/2026 08:20 AM, olcott wrote:
>>>> (1) Progressively make the initial prompt more
>>>> unequivocal and succinct across five different LLMs.
>>>>
>>>> I use ChatGPT 5.3, Claude AI Sonnet 4.6 Extended,
>>>> Grok Expert, Gemini Pro, Copilot Think deeper
>>>> and occasionally NotebookLM for Deep Research
>>>> and deep analysis of specific documents.
>>>>
>>>> (2) Once initial prompt is unequivocal and succinct
>>>> across five different LLMs then test for consensus.
>>>>
>>>> (3) Once consensus is achieved carefully examine
>>>> actual verbiage of key source documents. For
>>>> academic research this involves direct quotes from
>>>> foundational peer reviewed papers.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> Maybe you should figure more how it's "univocal" than "unequivocal".
>>>
>>
>> by "unequivocal" I only mean that every LLM takes the
>> prompt to mean exactly the same thing after as many
>> as hundreds and hundreds of progressive refinements.
>>
>> Then after the prompt has been further refined to achieve
>> a complete consensus across all five LLMs this is a good
>> ballpark estimate of literally unequivocal.
>>
>> The final test is against foundational peer reviewed
>> research written by the well established leaders in
>> the field.
>>
>>> For example, you can give it an account of what "equality",
>>> according to Quine according to Russell, "is", and show
>>> that now it's removed and quite capricious and not very arbitrary.
>>>
>>> I.e., that's readily "equivocated".
>>>
>>>
>>> The philo-sophy needs an account of the philo-casuy, or as
>>> with regards to distinguishing and disambiguationg
>>> the "sophistry" and the "casuistry".
>>>
>>
>> Ultimately my system uses GUIDs for each unique sense
>> meaning of every word.
>>
>>> Or, anybody else's opinion is just as good, and not bad.
>>>
>>> So, "univocity" is a usual account against "the synthetic fragmentation
>>> into pluralistic accounts of wholes". that's been around forever,
>>> and is part of the philosophical canon.
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
> 

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