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AnythingLLM QNN/ONNX: Massiv Computations versus John Sowa (Re: Rene Descartes "Discours de la méthode" has fizzled out)

From Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm>
Newsgroups sci.logic, sci.math, sci.lang
Subject AnythingLLM QNN/ONNX: Massiv Computations versus John Sowa (Re: Rene Descartes "Discours de la méthode" has fizzled out)
Date 2025-11-25 20:07 +0100
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Hi,

Ha Ha, remember this post on SWI-Prolog
discourse, the primary source for morons such
as Boris the Loris and Nazi Retard Julio:

"The idea that LLM-based methods can become
more intelligent by using massive amounts
of computation is false. They can generate
more kinds of BS, but at an enormous cost in
hardware and in the electricity to run that
massive hardware. But without methods of
evaluation, the probability that random mixtures
of data are true or useful or worth the cost
of generating them becomes less and less likely."
- John Sowa, 10 Jul 2024
https://swi-prolog.discourse.group/t/prolog-and-llms-genai/8699

Guess what my new ThinkCentre, that just arrived
via Lenovo, China, with a Snapdragon X, for around
700.- USD could easily run locally some inferencing.

I was using AnythingLLM, it has little idioctic
electron user interface, but can support
Snapdragon X NPU and models, via QNN/ONNX:

The all-in-one AI application
https://anythingllm.com/

Tested a LLama Model, a little bit chatty to
be honest, and a Phi Silica model, not yet that
good in coding. Where did the massive computation

come from? From the SOC and the unified memory
of the Snapdragon. I had 32 GB, and 16 GB was
shared with the NPU. So you don't need to

buy an Aura Yoga laptop, which has separate
NVIDIA Graphics card, with only 8 GB. This
graphic card will be useless, many interesting

models are above 8 GB. And yes the massive
computation obviously leads to more intelligence.
The later is a riddle for every Prologer, how

could more LIPS (logical inference per second)
lead to more intelligence?

Bye

Mild Shock schrieb:
> Hi,
> 
> How it started:
> 
> https://conceptbase.sourceforge.net/
> 
> How its going:
> 
> https://www.ibm.com/products/datastax
> 
> The problem with claims such as " Formal languages,
> such as KAOS, are based on predicate logic and
> capture additional details about an application
> in a precise manner. They also provide a foundation
> for reasoning with information models." is that
> every thing in the quoted sentence is wrong.
> 
> Real AI systems scale by approximation,
> vectorization, distributed representations,
> and partial knowledge — not by globally
> consistent logical models. No classical requirements
> language or ontology captures the informal
> cognitive machinery that makes
> intelligence flexible. Intelligence needs the
> whole messy cognitive spectrum.
> 
> Somehow DataStax looks like n8n married AI embedding.
> I hope Amazon, Meta, Google, etc.. get the message.
> I don't worry about Microsoft, they might come with
> 
> something from their Encarta corner and Copilot+ is
> more Local AI. After all we need things like Wikidata
> in a Robot and not in a Data Center.
> 
> LoL
> 
> Bye

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Rene Descartes "Discours de la méthode" has fizzled out Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2025-11-14 11:27 +0100
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