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| From | Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> |
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| Newsgroups | sci.logic, sci.math, sci.lang |
| Subject | AnythingLLM QNN/ONNX: Massiv Computations versus John Sowa (Re: Rene Descartes "Discours de la méthode" has fizzled out) |
| Date | 2025-11-25 20:07 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <10g4up6$jpof$2@solani.org> (permalink) |
| References | <dKqcnTafh9KZJZr0nZ2dnZfqnPqdnZ2d@giganews.com> <10f7064$jag$2@solani.org> |
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Hi, Ha Ha, remember this post on SWI-Prolog discourse, the primary source for morons such as Boris the Loris and Nazi Retard Julio: "The idea that LLM-based methods can become more intelligent by using massive amounts of computation is false. They can generate more kinds of BS, but at an enormous cost in hardware and in the electricity to run that massive hardware. But without methods of evaluation, the probability that random mixtures of data are true or useful or worth the cost of generating them becomes less and less likely." - John Sowa, 10 Jul 2024 https://swi-prolog.discourse.group/t/prolog-and-llms-genai/8699 Guess what my new ThinkCentre, that just arrived via Lenovo, China, with a Snapdragon X, for around 700.- USD could easily run locally some inferencing. I was using AnythingLLM, it has little idioctic electron user interface, but can support Snapdragon X NPU and models, via QNN/ONNX: The all-in-one AI application https://anythingllm.com/ Tested a LLama Model, a little bit chatty to be honest, and a Phi Silica model, not yet that good in coding. Where did the massive computation come from? From the SOC and the unified memory of the Snapdragon. I had 32 GB, and 16 GB was shared with the NPU. So you don't need to buy an Aura Yoga laptop, which has separate NVIDIA Graphics card, with only 8 GB. This graphic card will be useless, many interesting models are above 8 GB. And yes the massive computation obviously leads to more intelligence. The later is a riddle for every Prologer, how could more LIPS (logical inference per second) lead to more intelligence? Bye Mild Shock schrieb: > Hi, > > How it started: > > https://conceptbase.sourceforge.net/ > > How its going: > > https://www.ibm.com/products/datastax > > The problem with claims such as " Formal languages, > such as KAOS, are based on predicate logic and > capture additional details about an application > in a precise manner. They also provide a foundation > for reasoning with information models." is that > every thing in the quoted sentence is wrong. > > Real AI systems scale by approximation, > vectorization, distributed representations, > and partial knowledge — not by globally > consistent logical models. No classical requirements > language or ontology captures the informal > cognitive machinery that makes > intelligence flexible. Intelligence needs the > whole messy cognitive spectrum. > > Somehow DataStax looks like n8n married AI embedding. > I hope Amazon, Meta, Google, etc.. get the message. > I don't worry about Microsoft, they might come with > > something from their Encarta corner and Copilot+ is > more Local AI. After all we need things like Wikidata > in a Robot and not in a Data Center. > > LoL > > Bye
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Rene Descartes "Discours de la méthode" has fizzled out Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2025-11-14 11:27 +0100
Philosophical Twist due to negligence (Re: Rene Descartes "Discours de la méthode" has fizzled out) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2025-11-14 11:44 +0100
Re: Philosophical Twist due to negligence (Re: Rene Descartes "Discours de la méthode" has fizzled out) Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2025-11-14 11:10 -0800
NY is the next Detroit in 2035 (Was: Philosophical Twist due to negligence) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2025-11-14 23:12 +0100
Its a little sad story with NY (Was: NY is the next Detroit in 2035) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2025-11-14 23:25 +0100
Re: Its a little sad story with NY (Was: NY is the next Detroit in 2035) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2025-11-14 23:45 +0100
How to not be Artificial Intelligent [Boris the Loris deeply shocked] (Re: Philosophical Twist due to negligence) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2025-11-16 11:24 +0100
Abstraction refinement (CEGAR) etc.. [Community Blind Spot] (Was: How to not be Artificial Intelligent) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2025-11-16 12:05 +0100
The illusion of set theories [Computational Logic Primate] (Was: Abstraction refinement (CEGAR) etc.. [Community Blind Spot]) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2025-11-16 13:08 +0100
Not all logicians are primarily interested in "computation" (Re: The illusion of set theories [Computational Logic Primate]) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2025-11-16 16:32 +0100
AnythingLLM QNN/ONNX: Massiv Computations versus John Sowa (Re: Rene Descartes "Discours de la méthode" has fizzled out) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2025-11-25 20:07 +0100
Benchmark results DirectML versus QNN [Challenge for Geekbench AI] (Re: AnythingLLM QNN/ONNX: Massiv Computations versus John Sowa) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2025-11-25 20:17 +0100
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