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Rene Descartes "Discours de la méthode" has fizzled out

From Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm>
Newsgroups sci.logic, sci.math, sci.lang
Subject Rene Descartes "Discours de la méthode" has fizzled out
Date 2025-11-14 11:27 +0100
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Hi,

How it started:

https://conceptbase.sourceforge.net/

How its going:

https://www.ibm.com/products/datastax

The problem with claims such as " Formal languages,
such as KAOS, are based on predicate logic and
capture additional details about an application
in a precise manner. They also provide a foundation
for reasoning with information models." is that
every thing in the quoted sentence is wrong.

Real AI systems scale by approximation,
vectorization, distributed representations,
and partial knowledge — not by globally
consistent logical models. No classical requirements
language or ontology captures the informal
cognitive machinery that makes
intelligence flexible. Intelligence needs the
whole messy cognitive spectrum.

Somehow DataStax looks like n8n married AI embedding.
I hope Amazon, Meta, Google, etc.. get the message.
I don't worry about Microsoft, they might come with

something from their Encarta corner and Copilot+ is
more Local AI. After all we need things like Wikidata
in a Robot and not in a Data Center.

LoL

Bye

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Rene Descartes "Discours de la méthode" has fizzled out Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2025-11-14 11:27 +0100
  Philosophical Twist due to negligence (Re: Rene Descartes "Discours de la méthode" has fizzled out) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2025-11-14 11:44 +0100
    Re: Philosophical Twist due to negligence (Re: Rene Descartes "Discours de la méthode" has fizzled out) Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2025-11-14 11:10 -0800
      NY is the next Detroit in 2035 (Was: Philosophical Twist due to negligence) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2025-11-14 23:12 +0100
        Its a little sad story with NY (Was: NY is the next Detroit in 2035) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2025-11-14 23:25 +0100
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    How to not be Artificial Intelligent [Boris the Loris deeply shocked] (Re: Philosophical Twist due to negligence) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2025-11-16 11:24 +0100
      Abstraction refinement (CEGAR) etc.. [Community Blind Spot] (Was: How to not be Artificial Intelligent) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2025-11-16 12:05 +0100
        The illusion of set theories [Computational Logic Primate] (Was: Abstraction refinement (CEGAR) etc.. [Community Blind Spot]) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2025-11-16 13:08 +0100
          Not all logicians are primarily interested in "computation" (Re: The illusion of set theories [Computational Logic Primate]) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2025-11-16 16:32 +0100
  AnythingLLM QNN/ONNX: Massiv Computations versus John Sowa (Re: Rene Descartes "Discours de la méthode" has fizzled out) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2025-11-25 20:07 +0100
    Benchmark results DirectML versus QNN [Challenge for Geekbench AI] (Re: AnythingLLM QNN/ONNX: Massiv Computations versus John Sowa) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2025-11-25 20:17 +0100

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