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Stable Diffusion with Control Net (Re: The AGI Gambit: Hype vs. Reality)

From Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm>
Newsgroups sci.math, sci.logic, sci.physics.relativity
Subject Stable Diffusion with Control Net (Re: The AGI Gambit: Hype vs. Reality)
Date 2025-11-13 23:04 +0100
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Hi,

So the "Amuse" App on my AI Laptops is full of Stable
Diffusion with Control Net. Robots may use Stable
Diffusion with Control Net. Like in this GitHub project:

Adding Conditional Control to Text-to-Image Diffusion Models
https://github.com/lllyasviel/ControlNet

The idea is already being used to control robots in new
research. Like Diffusion Policies (Stanford, 2023–2024),
Robots use a diffusion model to generate action

trajectories instead of images. Trajectory Diffusion, QDiffusion,
SE(3) Diffusion, UniDexGrasp, GenAug, etc... The field is exploding.
many labs have shown diffusion models beating RL in:

- grasping
- manipulation
- locomotion
- navigation

Have Fun!

Bye

Mild Shock schrieb:
> Hi,
> 
> There are quite some signs of LWM (Large World
> Model) AI on the horizon. Like for example:
> 
> Controllable World Models are HERE
> Explore a playable world model, Marble, from World Labs,
> now available for free. This multimodal AI generates 3D
> environments from various inputs, including text and images.
> Users can navigate, edit, and export these worlds
> in multiple formats.
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-QbM6_BSdS0
> 
> Grok 5 by Elon Musk — AGI Is Closer Than You Think
> Musk's claim that Grok 5 has a "10% and rising" chance
> of achieving AGI demands scrutiny. He's gone further,
> stating "Grok 5 will be AGI or something indistinguishable
> from AGI"—a prediction that would make it the first
> system to achieve human-level general intelligence.
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Afsl4qUsfdw
> 
> Bye
> 
> Mild Shock schrieb:
>> Hi,
>>
>> Now I have the feeling we are minutes away
>> from robotic AI. Wondering why all the AI Laptops
>> have now GPUs with ray tracing hardware.
>>
>> Combining LRM (Large Reasoning Models) with a
>> 3D-Worlds modality could do the job. One could
>> use genetic algorithms to produce synthetic
>>
>> training data. This might challenge the
>> connotation behind the holy grail of AI,
>> called "Embodiment":
>>
>> "Der Schweizer Informatiker und Robotik-Experte
>> Rolf Pfeifer nimmt in diesem Kontext den
>> Standpunkt ein, dass Intelligenz ausschließlich
>> verkörperten Agenten, d. h. realen physischen
>> Systemen, deren Verhalten in der Interaktion
>> mit der Umwelt beobachtbar ist, zugeschrieben
>> werden kann.",
>> - How the body shapes the way we think. A new
>>    view of intelligence, Pfeifer & Bongard, 2007
>>
>> Bye
>>
>> Mild Shock schrieb:
>>>
>>>
>>> In a Tibetan lamasery, the monks seek to
>>> list all of the names of God. They believe
>>> the Universe was created for this purpose,
>>> and that once this naming is completed, God
>>> will bring the Universe to an end. Three
>>>
>>> centuries ago, the monks created an alphabet
>>> in which they calculated they could encode
>>> all the possible names of God, numbering
>>> about 9,000,000,000 ("nine billion") and
>>> each having no more than nine characters.
>>>
>>> riting the names out by hand, as they had
>>> been doing, even after eliminating various
>>> nonsense combinations, would take another
>>> 15,000 years; the monks wish to use modern
>>> technology to finish this task in 100 days.
>>>
>>> They rent a computer capable of printing all
>>> the possible permutations, and hire two
>>> Westerners to install and program the machine.
>>> The computer operators are skeptical but
>>> play along. After three months, as the job
>>>
>>> nears completion, they fear that the monks
>>> will blame the computer (and, by extension,
>>> its operators) when nothing happens. The
>>> Westerners leave slightly earlier than their
>>> scheduled departure without warning the monks,
>>>
>>> so that it will complete its final print run
>>> shortly after they leave. On their way to the
>>> airfield they pause on the mountain path. Under
>>> a clear night sky they es timate that it must be
>>> just about the time that the monks are pasting
>>>
>>> the final printed names into their holy books.
>>> Then they notice that "overhead, without any
>>> fuss, the stars were going out."
>>>
>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Nine_Billion_Names_of_God
>>
> 

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