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Beyond Sleepy Joe around the World (Was: Sleepy Joe and the Poor South (Local AI Emacs Mode))

From Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm>
Newsgroups comp.lang.prolog
Subject Beyond Sleepy Joe around the World (Was: Sleepy Joe and the Poor South (Local AI Emacs Mode))
Date 2025-11-12 13:12 +0100
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Hi,

This is information provided by ChatGPT.
I asked whether there will be similar initiatives
like the MZ-80k back then in Japan, but for Local AI?

In Education the Local AI, locally on your device idea,
has probably not yet arrived. But there are AI initiatives:

- Countries with Active AI Integration or Guidance in Education:
Canada, USA, China, UAE, Australia, Some Europe, etc..
https://www.sourcesecurity.com/img/news/920/lithuania-s-ai-in-schools-nexos-ai-initiative-920x533.jpg
- People’s Republic of China (e.g., Hangzhou),
AI education from early age
China’s Hangzhou makes AI classes compulsory in schools
amid nationwide push. Local governments are beginning to
take action after Beijing said it wants all primary and
secondary students to study the advanced tech
https://www.scmp.com/economy/china-economy/article/3323082/chinas-hangzhou-makes-ai-classes-compulsory-schools-amid-nationwide-push
- Estonia Announces A Groundbreaking National Initiative: AI Leap 
Programme to Bring AI Tools to All Schools
Estonia, one of the world's most advanced digital societies,
announced today an ambitious nationwide artificial intelligence 
education program called AI Leap 2025 (TI-Hüpe 2025 in Estonian).
  The initiative, planned to be launched on 1 September 2025, will 
provide students and teachers with free access to the world's
leading AI applications and the necessary skills to use them
effectively in learning, marking the next chapter in Estonia's
digital society journey.
https://www.hm.ee/en/news/estonia-announces-groundbreaking-national-initiative-ai-leap-programme-bring-ai-tools-all

But there are chances the Local AI, locally on your device,
becomes even available for Low-Resource regions:

- Likely trends by 2026: AI-capable chips everywhere,
Cheaper edge AI hardware, Improved efficiency,
Education-specific variants, Local models catching up.
- In other words, by late 2026, the dream of a
“new MZ-80K era” — affordable, compact AI learning
machines for every classroom — could be technically
and economically feasible.

In Miniature you have already Local AI on your smartphones.

Bye

P.S.: Here is the chat:

mz-80k education initiative
https://chatgpt.com/share/6914648d-e934-8013-9388-3bcf40f753a8

Mild Shock schrieb:
> Hi,
> 
> Breaking News from the French conference of
> philisophy professors in education. They launched
> the Local AI Emacs Mode initiative to bring
> 
> new technology to even most remote corners
> of the earth, such as the Poor South, i.e.
> Spain, Brasil, Argentinia, etc..
> 
> It consists of:
> 
> - **org.joe:** This is a numpy library that
>    can solve large band matrices via storing
>    them on floppy disk. One speaker of the
>    philosophy conference said, this is ideal
>    to demonstrate algorithms such as Stable
>    Diffusion, it might take a month though
>    to generate an image but it servers its
>    educatinal goals for Low-Resource teaching.
> 
> - **org.sleepy:** This is a sympy library that
>    can also do natural deduction. It uses
>    very natural communication means such as
>    E-mail. Its especially useful together with
>    org.joe, since it will notify the user when
>    to change a floppy disk via E-mail.
> 
> - SWI-Prolog integration of Local AI:
>    org.joe has a R binding, which has SWI-Prolog
>    binding, which has a Janus Python binding, which
>    has a JSON web server binding, etc.. etc.. And
>    org.sleepy can be controlled via their brand new
>    XPCE, the Emacs that runs in a Mac/Windows Window.
>    But most Low-Resource teachers and students will
>    not be able to use it, since they have only
>    an ASCII terminal console on a 32-bit Unix.
> 
> Bye
> 
> Mild Shock schrieb:
>> Concerning this boring nonsense:
>>
>> https://book.simply-logical.space/src/text/2_part_ii/5.3.html#
>>
>> Funny idea that anybody would be interested just now in
>> the year 2025 in things like teaching breadth first
>> search versus depth first search, or even be “mystified”
>> by such stuff. Its extremly trivial stuff:
>>
>> Insert your favorite tree traversal pictures here.
>>
>> Its even not artificial intelligence neither has anything
>> to do with mathematical logic, rather belongs to computer
>> science and discrete mathematics which you have in
>> 1st year university
>>
>> courses, making it moot to call it “simply logical”. It
>> reminds me of the idea of teaching how wax candles work
>> to dumb down students, when just light bulbs have been
>> invented. If this is the outcome
>>
>> of the Prolog Education Group 2.0, then good night.
>>
> 

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