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Re: The 11 iOS features that Arlen is ignorant of

From	-hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com>
Newsgroups	misc.phone.mobile.iphone, comp.sys.mac.advocacy
Subject	Re: The 11 iOS features that Arlen is ignorant of
Date	2025-08-26 09:23 -0400
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On 8/25/25 15:17, badgolferman wrote:
> Marion <marion@facts.com> wrote:
>>
>> People who buy a Rolex aren't smarter than people who buy a Timex you know.
>>
> 
> Just like a Rolex or a Mercedes, an iPhone is a status symbol for some
> people. 

And likewise, some buyers of Android (or Tesla/etc) are choosing these 
for some aspect of 'status' too.

However, that some segment buys for reasons other than strictly utility 
shouldn't be a surprise, nor condemn that choice:  it is the essence of 
why the entire field of product marketing exists.

And goods which fake their desirability/status don't last long, so that 
is straightforward to eliminate here from consideration.

But you & Marion are both missing the point that was being raised here, 
which is that higher affluence empowers greater fiscal frivolity, which 
if this really was all about status/image as you're suggesting, these 
owners would be promptly flipping to each new iPhone model ... but the 
ownership data shows that not only do they not, but they actually tend 
to own their iPhones for longer than Android buyers own their Androids.

The ramifications here have a couple of likely possibilities:

a) Apple makes better hardware which allows it to last longer;

b) The hardware build is ~same, but Apple customers own longer because 
they're *less* vain about "shiny new thing" status symbols than Android.

YMMV, but neither of these are positive things for Android.

> It means they have achieved a certain wealth level where they have
> more disposable income and can purchase overpriced things. They don’t care
> that the value is not there, it just makes them look better in the yes of
> their peers.

Nope.  The things which other consumers choose to assign value to in 
their product selections is not something that you personally get to 
approve/condemn, just because your personal opinion for what constitutes 
'value' differs.

If you want to make a credible argument that something is an overpriced 
piece of junk, you need to remove your personal bias from the argument 
that you make and transparently show objective metrics with actual data.

Not this emotional hand-waiving you're doing, 'Karen'.

-hh

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The 11 iOS features that Arlen is ignorant of Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2025-08-13 22:30 +0000
  Re: The 11 iOS features that Arlen is ignorant of Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> - 2025-08-14 06:53 +0200
  Re: The 11 iOS features that Arlen is ignorant of Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-08-14 05:55 +0000
    Re: The 11 iOS features that Arlen is ignorant of Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2025-08-14 16:50 +0000
      Re: The 11 iOS features that Arlen is ignorant of Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-08-14 10:38 -0700
      Re: The 11 iOS features that Arlen is ignorant of Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-08-14 18:03 +0000
        Re: The 11 iOS features that Arlen is ignorant of Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2025-08-19 11:58 +0000
          Re: The 11 iOS features that Arlen is ignorant of Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-08-19 14:26 +0000
            Re: The 11 iOS features that Arlen is ignorant of Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2025-08-20 07:10 +0000
              Re: The 11 iOS features that Arlen is ignorant of Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-08-20 16:57 +0000
                Re: The 11 iOS features that Arlen is ignorant of Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2025-08-20 21:17 +0000
                Re: The 11 iOS features that Arlen is ignorant of Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-08-21 00:11 +0000
                Re: The 11 iOS features that Arlen is ignorant of Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2025-08-21 07:14 +0000
                Re: The 11 iOS features that Arlen is ignorant of Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2025-08-21 21:30 +0000
                Re: The 11 iOS features that Arlen is ignorant of Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-08-22 02:03 +0000
                Re: The 11 iOS features that Arlen is ignorant of Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2025-08-23 11:56 +0000
                Re: The 11 iOS features that Arlen is ignorant of Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-08-24 01:22 +0000
                Re: The 11 iOS features that Arlen is ignorant of Tom Elam <thomas.e.elam@gmail.com> - 2025-08-23 16:22 -0700
                Re: The 11 iOS features that Arlen is ignorant of Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-08-24 01:31 +0000
                Re: The 11 iOS features that Arlen is ignorant of -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2025-08-24 17:14 -0400
                Re: The 11 iOS features that Arlen is ignorant of Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-08-25 01:26 +0000
                Re: The 11 iOS features that Arlen is ignorant of -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2025-08-25 14:41 -0400
                Re: The 11 iOS features that Arlen is ignorant of Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2025-08-26 10:00 +1200
                Re: The 11 iOS features that Arlen is ignorant of Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-08-26 03:06 +0000
                Re: The 11 iOS features that Arlen is ignorant of Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2025-08-26 16:26 +0000
                Re: The 11 iOS features that Arlen is ignorant of Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-08-27 00:48 +0000
                Re: The 11 iOS features that Arlen is ignorant of Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2025-08-27 16:43 +0000
                Re: The 11 iOS features that Arlen is ignorant of Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-08-28 03:13 +0000
                Re: The 11 iOS features that Arlen is ignorant of Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2025-08-28 19:23 +0000
                Re: The 11 iOS features that Arlen is ignorant of Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-08-28 23:48 +0000
                Re: The 11 iOS features that Arlen is ignorant of Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2025-08-29 15:28 +0000
                Re: The 11 iOS features that Arlen is ignorant of Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-08-30 22:22 +0000
                Re: The 11 iOS features that Arlen is ignorant of Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2025-08-31 16:59 +0000
                Re: The 11 iOS features that Arlen is ignorant of Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-08-31 18:32 +0000
                Re: The 11 iOS features that Arlen is ignorant of Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-09-02 12:32 -0400
                Re: The 11 iOS features that Arlen is ignorant of Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2025-09-02 22:03 +0000
                Re: The 11 iOS features that Arlen is ignorant of Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-09-02 22:50 +0000
                Re: The 11 iOS features that Arlen is ignorant of Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2025-09-03 15:28 +0000
                Re: The 11 iOS features that Arlen is ignorant of Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-09-03 17:11 +0000
                Re: The 11 iOS features that Arlen is ignorant of Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2025-09-08 18:55 +0000
                Re: The 11 iOS features that Arlen is ignorant of Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-09-09 00:13 +0000
                Re: The 11 iOS features that Arlen is ignorant of Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2025-09-10 15:58 +0000
                Re: The 11 iOS features that Arlen is ignorant of Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-08-27 15:38 -0400
                Re: The 11 iOS features that Arlen is ignorant of Tyrone <none@none.none> - 2025-08-27 21:16 +0000
                Re: The 11 iOS features that Arlen is ignorant of Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-08-28 03:24 +0000
                Re: The 11 iOS features that Arlen is ignorant of badgolferman <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> - 2025-08-25 19:17 +0000
                Re: The 11 iOS features that Arlen is ignorant of Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-08-26 01:57 +0000
                Re: The 11 iOS features that Arlen is ignorant of Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-08-26 09:19 -0400
                Re: The 11 iOS features that Arlen is ignorant of -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2025-08-26 09:23 -0400
                Re: The 11 iOS features that Arlen is ignorant of Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2025-08-27 08:40 +1200
                Re: The 11 iOS features that Arlen is ignorant of Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-08-28 03:42 +0000
                Re: The 11 iOS features that Arlen is ignorant of Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-08-28 16:17 -0400
                Re: The 11 iOS features that Arlen is ignorant of Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-08-28 16:19 -0400
                Re: The 11 iOS features that Arlen is ignorant of -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2025-08-29 10:46 -0400

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