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Chili [was Re: Montreal wins 2027 Worldcon bid]

From "Evelyn C. Leeper" <evelynchimelisleeper@gmail.com>
Newsgroups rec.arts.sf.fandom, rec.music.filk
Subject Chili [was Re: Montreal wins 2027 Worldcon bid]
Date 2025-08-22 17:54 -0400
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On 8/22/25 3:42 PM, Cryptoengineer wrote:
> On 8/21/2025 12:04 PM, Jay Morris wrote:
>> On 8/21/2025 8:50 AM, Tim Merrigan wrote:
>>> On 8/20/2025 8:11 PM, Joy Beeson wrote:
>>>> A brief perusal of Google Maps strongly suggests that if
>>>> want to have a bowl of chili in Chili, I will have to be
>>>> invited into someone's home.  There doesn't seem to be so
>>>> much as a public gazebo or even a parking place where one
>>>> could open a thermos.
>>>
>>> Well, considering that chili is a Tex/Mex concoction…
>>>
>>> I've heard it was invented by Hungarian immigrants trying to make 
>>> goulash with local ingredients.
>>>
>> ....
>> San Antonio is widely considered the birthplace of chili con carne, 
>> with strong ties to the city's Canary Islander population and the 
>> "Chili Queens" who sold it in the late 19th and early 20th centuries. 
>> While the exact origins are debated, the influence of Canary Islanders 
>> who settled in San Antonio in 1731, bringing with them spices and 
>> cooking techniques from their homeland, is a key part of the story.
>>
>> Here's a more detailed breakdown:
>> 1. Canary Islander Influence:
>>
>>      In 1731, families from the Canary Islands were recruited to 
>> settle in San Antonio, forming a community that became influential in 
>> the city's business and political landscape.
>>
>> They brought with them culinary traditions, including the use of cumin 
>> and a style of stewing meat with chili peppers, garlic, and wild 
>> onions, which closely resembles Moroccan Berber cooking.
>> This distinctive blend of spices and ingredients is believed to be a 
>> foundational element of early chili recipes.
>>
>> 2. The Chili Queens:
>>
>>      In the late 1800s and early 1900s, "Chili Queens" became a 
>> popular fixture in San Antonio, particularly in Military Plaza.
>>
>> These women, mostly of Mexican descent, sold chili con carne from 
>> outdoor stalls, attracting locals and travelers with their engaging 
>> personalities and flavorful dishes.
>> Their chili was typically all beef, with no beans, and was often 
>> served with tamales and enchiladas, becoming a defining part of San 
>> Antonio's Tex-Mex culinary identity.
>> ....
> 
> No beef is the way I like it, but the beany variety is also popular.
> 
> I once raised a bit of a flamewar on reddit by ask "Chili: Beans, or No 
> Beans?" in the /askAmericans subreddit.

I go vegan, with beans and soy crumbles (Nutrela, from the Indian 
grocery) to give it texture and more protein. I also make three 
different kinds: green (cannellini/Great Northern beans), mole 
(kidney/pinto beans), and (imitation) Texas Roadhouse (kidney) (though I 
suspect when I have used up my current TR blend of spices, I will retire 
that one).

ObSF: My mole chili recipe was modified from the one LoneStarCon II 
published.

-- 
Evelyn C. Leeper, http://leepers.us/evelyn
Don't ever save anything for a special occasion.
Every day you're alive is a special occasion. -Ann Wells

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                Re: Montreal wins 2027 Worldcon bid Gary McGath <garym@mcgath.com> - 2025-08-20 10:52 -0400
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                Re: Montreal wins 2027 Worldcon bid Cryptoengineer <petertrei@gmail.com> - 2025-08-22 15:39 -0400
                Re: Montreal wins 2027 Worldcon bid Joy Beeson <jbeeson@invalid.net.invalid> - 2025-08-20 23:11 -0400
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                Chili [was Re: Montreal wins 2027 Worldcon bid] "Evelyn C. Leeper" <evelynchimelisleeper@gmail.com> - 2025-08-22 17:54 -0400
                Re: Chili [was Re: Montreal wins 2027 Worldcon bid] Jay Morris <morrisj@epsilon3.me> - 2025-08-22 18:11 -0500
                Re: Chili [was Re: Montreal wins 2027 Worldcon bid] Cryptoengineer <petertrei@gmail.com> - 2025-08-22 20:38 -0400
            Re: Montreal wins 2027 Worldcon bid kludge@panix.com (Scott Dorsey) - 2025-08-17 21:50 -0400
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