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Re: Montreal wins 2027 Worldcon bid

From John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com>
Newsgroups rec.arts.sf.fandom, rec.music.filk
Subject Re: Montreal wins 2027 Worldcon bid
Date 2025-08-21 10:25 -0700
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On Thu, 21 Aug 2025 11:04:06 -0500
Jay Morris <morrisj@epsilon3.me> wrote:

> San Antonio is widely considered the birthplace of chili con carne,
> with strong ties to the city's Canary Islander population and the
> "Chili Queens" who sold it in the late 19th and early 20th centuries.
> While the exact origins are debated, the influence of Canary
> Islanders who settled in San Antonio in 1731, bringing with them
> spices and cooking techniques from their homeland, is a key part of
> the story.
> 
> Here's a more detailed breakdown:
> 1. Canary Islander Influence:
> 
>      In 1731, families from the Canary Islands were recruited to
> settle in San Antonio, forming a community that became influential in
> the city's business and political landscape.
> 
> They brought with them culinary traditions, including the use of
> cumin and a style of stewing meat with chili peppers, garlic, and
> wild onions, which closely resembles Moroccan Berber cooking.
> This distinctive blend of spices and ingredients is believed to be a 
> foundational element of early chili recipes.
> 
> 2. The Chili Queens:
> 
>      In the late 1800s and early 1900s, "Chili Queens" became a
> popular fixture in San Antonio, particularly in Military Plaza.
> 
> These women, mostly of Mexican descent, sold chili con carne from 
> outdoor stalls, attracting locals and travelers with their engaging 
> personalities and flavorful dishes.
> Their chili was typically all beef, with no beans, and was often
> served with tamales and enchiladas, becoming a defining part of San
> Antonio's Tex-Mex culinary identity.

Had never heard about this before. Fascinating!

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                Re: Montreal wins 2027 Worldcon bid Cryptoengineer <petertrei@gmail.com> - 2025-08-22 15:39 -0400
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                Re: Montreal wins 2027 Worldcon bid John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-08-21 10:25 -0700
                Re: Montreal wins 2027 Worldcon bid "Keith F. Lynch" <kfl@KeithLynch.net> - 2025-08-23 20:19 +0000
                Re: Montreal wins 2027 Worldcon bid Tim Merrigan <tppm@rr.ca.com> - 2025-08-23 16:07 -0700
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          Re: Montreal wins 2027 Worldcon bid djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2025-08-17 22:46 +0000
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          Re: Montreal wins 2027 Worldcon bid "Evelyn C. Leeper" <evelynchimelisleeper@gmail.com> - 2025-08-18 18:59 -0400
            Re: Montreal wins 2027 Worldcon bid "Keith F. Lynch" <kfl@KeithLynch.net> - 2025-08-19 01:28 +0000
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