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| From | Java Jive <java@evij.com.invalid> |
|---|---|
| Newsgroups | alt.comp.os.windows-10 |
| Subject | Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection |
| Date | 2025-08-13 05:10 +0100 |
| Organization | A noiseless patient Spider |
| Message-ID | <107h37e$3mo9s$1@dont-email.me> (permalink) |
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On 2025-08-12 23:24, VanguardLH wrote:
>
> Java Jive <java@evij.com.invalid> wrote:
>>
>> VanguardLH wrote:
>>>
>>> Mobile networks can be even worse for latency.
>>
>> Yes, but we're discussing undersea fibre-optic cables.
>
> Um, who brought mobile networks into the discussion? Oh, yeah, that was
> you. "Whereas for me in Scotland, using a mobile broadband connection".
It was merely there to document how the tracert was performed, it had no
other significance.
>>> Theoreticals rarely equal actuals. For those using Rustdesk's or
>>> Teamviewer's public rendezvous servers, they need to measure latency for
>>> THEIR route to the server.
>>
>> All of which exactly supports my statement ...
>
> Um, who said to measure latency? That was me first.
Yes, but then you drew the wrong conclusion - or perhaps only stated
it ambiguously giving an erroneous impression of what you believed, but
given your subsequent reply, I don't think so ... whatever.
> You brought in
> thereotical calculations (which were way off), and an example.
On the contrary, the calculations were reasonably accurate, certainly
accurate enough to show that the problems with latency had little or
nothing to do with crossing the Atlantic. See below ...
> I
> brought more examples.
Which were wrong, as the link you gave, which you clearly didn't bother
to read properly, stated in its description - BTW note that the
Atlantic is 4,600 kms wide AT ITS WIDEST POINT as per my ball-park
calculation, that should have alerted you that you were making some sort
of mistake [my emphasis]:
"The AC-1 (Atlantic Crossing 1) is a 14,000 km trans-Atlantic submarine
cable *SYSTEM* linking the USA and three European countries, the U.K.,
the Netherlands and Germany.
[...]
The AC-1 cable system comprises four fiber self-healing Synchronous
Digital Hierarchy (SDH) *RING* network connecting the United States with
the United Kingdom and Germany, with an initial design system capacity
of 40Gbps (8*2.5G DWDM, 2 fiber pairs).
The AC-1 cable lands at the following cable landing stations:
Brookhaven Cable Landing Station, the United States,
Whitesands Bay Cable Landing Station, the United Kingdom
Deutsche Telekom's Sylt Cable Landing Station, Germany
KPN's Beverwijk Cable Landing Station, Netherlands"
So it's a ring network, and 14,000kms is its total length, but the
distance between any two nodes on the ring is going to be much, much
less, similar to the 5-6000 km lengths given for the more recent cables
described further down on that same page.
> Yep, all of that supported my claim that the
> ocean cabling incurs a big jump in latency.
The fibre-optical cabling itself does not contribute significantly to
the latency, as I demonstrated, it's the other paraphernalia in the
system that's responsible for most of it.
> Thanks for agreeing.
You really do need to grow up and learn to admit when you're wrong.
--
Fake news kills!
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Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> - 2025-08-11 21:11 +0200
Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2025-08-12 02:00 +0100
Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> - 2025-08-13 21:21 +0200
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Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2025-08-11 20:20 -0500
Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection Java Jive <java@evij.com.invalid> - 2025-08-12 12:35 +0100
Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2025-08-12 14:16 -0500
Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection Java Jive <java@evij.com.invalid> - 2025-08-12 21:11 +0100
Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2025-08-12 17:24 -0500
Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection Java Jive <java@evij.com.invalid> - 2025-08-13 05:10 +0100
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