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Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection

From "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid>
Newsgroups alt.comp.os.windows-10
Subject Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection
Date 2025-08-04 12:57 +0200
Message-ID <29g6mlxf64.ln2@Telcontar.valinor> (permalink)
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On 2025-08-04 03:41, Char Jackson wrote:
> On Sat, 2 Aug 2025 15:46:01 +0100, "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk>
> wrote:
> 
>> It puzzles me why so many of these solutions involve a third-party
>> server; surely direct connection between the machines would be simpler,
>> and cheaper for those providing the solution.
> 
> As others have said, it's primarily to be able to work around a nearly
> universal problem that would otherwise occur when establishing a
> connection across the Internet. The target PC is quite often behind a
> router. That router commonly performs Network Address Translation (NAT)
> and it usually has a stateful firewall (Stateful Packet Inspection,
> SPI). NAT translates between the WAN IP address of the router and the
> LAN IP address of the target PC, and SPI is responsible for blocking
> unsolicited inbound traffic, which would include this remote connection.
> Add a requirement to configure port forwarding, as well. The router can
> be manually configured to allow a remote connection, but the addition of
> the third party server makes all of that moot.

It took years for protocols to work this well using a third party 
server. I remember that at the start it did not always work. Skype was 
maybe the first one to massively use this, and initially it did not work 
that well.

-- 
Cheers, Carlos.

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Alternative for remote desktop connection Fokke Nauta <fnauta@solfon.nl> - 2025-08-01 16:11 +0200
  Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection "Alan K." <alan@invalid.com> - 2025-08-01 10:28 -0400
    Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2025-08-01 18:19 +0100
      Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2025-08-01 12:33 -0500
        Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection "Alan K." <alan@invalid.com> - 2025-08-01 13:49 -0400
        Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2025-08-01 21:11 +0100
      Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection NY <me@privacy.net> - 2025-08-02 16:29 +0100
        Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2025-08-02 18:26 +0100
    Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection Fokke Nauta <fnauta@solfon.nl> - 2025-08-01 20:45 +0200
      Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> - 2025-08-02 15:58 +0200
        Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection Fokke Nauta <fnauta@solfon.nl> - 2025-08-02 16:35 +0200
  Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection Graham J <nobody@nowhere.co.uk> - 2025-08-01 16:43 +0100
    Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection Fokke Nauta <fnauta@solfon.nl> - 2025-08-01 20:47 +0200
  Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection T <T@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-01 09:02 -0700
    Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection T <T@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-01 09:13 -0700
  Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> - 2025-08-01 18:41 +0200
    Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection Fokke Nauta <fnauta@solfon.nl> - 2025-08-01 20:49 +0200
  Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2025-08-01 12:06 -0500
    Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection Fokke Nauta <fnauta@solfon.nl> - 2025-08-01 20:54 +0200
      Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2025-08-01 15:26 -0500
    Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection Michael Logies <logies@t-online.de> - 2025-08-06 15:58 +0200
      Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> - 2025-08-06 18:41 +0200
        Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2025-08-06 12:35 -0500
  Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection T <T@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-01 17:32 -0700
    Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection Philip Herlihy <nothing@invalid.com> - 2025-08-02 12:15 +0100
      Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> - 2025-08-02 15:57 +0200
        Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2025-08-02 15:46 +0100
          Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> - 2025-08-02 17:30 +0200
            Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2025-08-02 18:32 +0100
              Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-08-02 19:53 +0200
              Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-08-02 17:53 -0400
          Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> - 2025-08-03 19:43 +0200
          Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection Char Jackson <none@none.invalid> - 2025-08-03 20:41 -0500
            Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2025-08-04 11:55 +0100
              Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection Char Jackson <none@none.invalid> - 2025-08-04 23:22 -0500
                Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2025-08-05 20:24 +0100
            Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-08-04 12:57 +0200
        Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection T <T@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-03 23:10 -0700
          Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> - 2025-08-04 15:37 +0200
    Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> - 2025-08-02 15:54 +0200
  Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection Fokke Nauta <fnauta@solfon.nl> - 2025-08-02 16:40 +0200
    Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2025-08-02 19:56 -0500
      Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection Fokke Nauta <fnauta@solfon.nl> - 2025-08-03 20:36 +0200
        Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2025-08-03 18:11 -0500
          Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection Fokke Nauta <fnauta@solfon.nl> - 2025-08-04 11:34 +0200
            Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2025-08-04 14:06 -0500
              Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection Fokke Nauta <fnauta@solfon.nl> - 2025-08-06 08:59 +0200
    Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection Philip Herlihy <nothing@invalid.com> - 2025-08-03 21:07 +0100
      Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection Fokke Nauta <fnauta@solfon.nl> - 2025-08-04 11:24 +0200
        Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection Philip Herlihy <nothing@invalid.com> - 2025-08-04 10:50 +0100
          Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection Fokke Nauta <fnauta@solfon.nl> - 2025-08-06 09:01 +0200
            Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection Philip Herlihy <nothing@invalid.com> - 2025-08-07 11:39 +0100
              Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection Fokke Nauta <fnauta@solfon.nl> - 2025-08-07 15:19 +0200
        Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection Zaidy036 <Zaidy036@air.isp.spam> - 2025-08-04 16:25 -0400
          Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection Fokke Nauta <fnauta@solfon.nl> - 2025-08-06 09:03 +0200
  Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection Brian Gregory <void-invalid-dead-dontuse@email.invalid> - 2025-08-06 20:55 +0100
    Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection Brian Gregory <void-invalid-dead-dontuse@email.invalid> - 2025-08-06 21:00 +0100
      Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection Fokke Nauta <fnauta@solfon.nl> - 2025-08-07 15:22 +0200
    Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection Fokke Nauta <fnauta@solfon.nl> - 2025-08-07 15:20 +0200
      Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection Philip Herlihy <nothing@invalid.com> - 2025-08-08 11:44 +0100
        Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection Fokke Nauta <fnauta@solfon.nl> - 2025-08-09 12:59 +0200
          Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2025-08-09 13:17 -0500
            Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection Fokke Nauta <fnauta@solfon.nl> - 2025-08-10 18:01 +0200
              Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2025-08-10 18:12 +0100
                Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection Fokke Nauta <fnauta@solfon.nl> - 2025-08-10 19:33 +0200
                Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2025-08-10 19:08 +0100
                Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection Fokke Nauta <fnauta@solfon.nl> - 2025-08-11 09:46 +0200
                Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2025-08-11 14:07 +0100
                Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2025-08-11 08:19 -0500
                OT: Microsoft product (and service) naming (was: Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection) "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2025-08-11 14:36 +0100
                Re: OT: Microsoft product (and service) naming "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-20 11:06 +0200
                Re: OT: Microsoft product (and service) naming "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2025-10-20 10:48 +0100
                Re: OT: Microsoft product (and service) naming "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-20 13:36 +0200
                Re: OT: Microsoft product (and service) naming Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-10-20 12:36 +0000
            Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-08-10 19:57 +0200
      Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> - 2025-08-10 20:42 +0200
        Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection Fokke Nauta <fnauta@solfon.nl> - 2025-08-11 09:44 +0200
        Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2025-08-11 14:09 +0100
          Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2025-08-11 08:53 -0500
            Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2025-08-11 15:53 +0100
              Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2025-08-11 13:03 -0500
                Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2025-08-11 19:31 +0100
                Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> - 2025-08-11 21:11 +0200
                Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2025-08-12 02:00 +0100
                Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> - 2025-08-13 21:21 +0200
                Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection The Horny Goat <lcraver@home.ca> - 2025-10-19 23:36 -0700
                OT: ageing (was: Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection) "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2025-10-20 08:45 +0100
                Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2025-08-11 20:20 -0500
                Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection Java Jive <java@evij.com.invalid> - 2025-08-12 12:35 +0100
                Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2025-08-12 14:16 -0500
                Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection Java Jive <java@evij.com.invalid> - 2025-08-12 21:11 +0100
                Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2025-08-12 17:24 -0500
                Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection Java Jive <java@evij.com.invalid> - 2025-08-13 05:10 +0100
                Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-08-12 15:29 -0400
                Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection Michael Logies <logies@t-online.de> - 2025-08-11 22:40 +0200
                Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> - 2025-08-11 21:06 +0200
                Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2025-08-11 20:35 -0500
                Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2025-08-12 09:01 +0100
                Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2025-08-12 13:23 -0500
                Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2025-08-13 03:45 +0100
                Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> - 2025-08-13 21:28 +0200
                Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2025-08-13 17:09 -0500
                Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> - 2025-08-14 13:27 +0200
            Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> - 2025-08-11 21:03 +0200
              Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2025-08-11 20:39 -0500
          Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection rsutton <rsutton43@comcast.net> - 2025-08-12 07:49 -0400
            Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection wasbit <wasbit@REMOVEhotmail.com> - 2025-08-13 09:26 +0100
              Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection Fokke Nauta <fnauta@solfon.nl> - 2025-08-13 11:39 +0200
                Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2025-08-13 12:13 +0100
                Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection Fokke Nauta <fnauta@solfon.nl> - 2025-08-13 18:33 +0200
                Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2025-08-13 12:52 -0500
                Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection rsutton <rsutton43@comcast.net> - 2025-08-14 08:22 -0400
                Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection Fokke Nauta <fnauta@solfon.nl> - 2025-08-14 16:00 +0200

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