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numbernumber1964@gmail.com wrote:

> Lorentz transformation (relativity) uses the earth's yearly tangential
> velocity vector px in the reversal the negative result of Michelson's
> experiment to justify the existence of Fresnel's optical ether, composed
> of matter.

Nonsense.  First of all, while Lorentz transformations are used in the 
theories of relativity as a mathematical tool (that, it turned out, results 
*naturally* from the principle of relativity), Lorentz *Ether Theory* *has 
nothing to do* with the theories of relativity.  It is an *alternative* 
theory (postulated, by Lorentz, shortly *before* special relativity, by 
Einstein) that made extraneous assumptions: an ether medium that cannot be 
detected yet is supposed to be transformable and thus have measurable 
effects.  Shortly after, Lorentz and Poincaré had to incorporate the 
principle of relativity into their "ether" theories to make their 
predictions match experimental results, making them indistinguishable from 
special relativity.

The application of Occam’s razor has led to modern physics rejecting the 
idea of such an ether.

You really should *read* what you are talking about some time.

<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lorentz_ether_theory#The_shift_to_relativity>

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Lorentz (Pussy smells sooo good). numbernumber1964@gmail.com - 2016-11-26 17:05 -0800
  Re: Lorentz (Pussy smells sooo good). Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2016-11-27 13:55 +0100
    Re: Lorentz (Pussy smells sooo good). HGW <hw@....> - 2016-11-28 07:21 +1100
      Re: Lorentz (Pussy smells sooo good). Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2016-11-27 16:10 -0600
        Re: Lorentz (Pussy smells sooo good). HGW <hw@....> - 2016-11-29 08:40 +1100
    Re: Lorentz (Pussy smells sooo good). Reggie Sippel <SippieoRRpSg@Sippie.RRpSg.Sip> - 2016-11-29 14:47 +0000
      Lorentz transformations (was: Lorentz (Pussy smells sooo good)) Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2016-11-29 16:28 +0100
        Re: Lorentz transformations (was: Lorentz (Pussy smells sooo good)) Julian Alewine <lliian@lliianenpo.org> - 2016-11-29 17:34 +0000
          Re: Lorentz transformations Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2016-11-29 19:07 +0100
        Re: Lorentz transformations "HGWilson, DSc." <hgw@....> - 2016-11-30 05:04 +1100
          Re: Lorentz transformations Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-11-29 10:29 -0800
            Re: Lorentz transformations moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-11-29 21:03 +0000
              Re: Lorentz transformations "HGWilson, DSc." <hgw@....> - 2016-12-01 03:41 +1100
                Re: Lorentz transformations Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-11-30 11:17 -0600
                Re: Lorentz transformations HGW <hw@....> - 2016-12-01 08:44 +1100
                Re: Lorentz transformations Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-11-30 15:49 -0600
                Re: Lorentz transformations moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-11-30 22:08 +0000
                Re: Lorentz transformations HGW <hw@....> - 2016-12-01 21:07 +1100
                Re: Lorentz transformations moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-12-01 16:00 +0000
                Re: Lorentz transformations Python <python@python.invalid> - 2016-12-01 20:33 +0100
                Re: Lorentz transformations "HGWilson, DSc." <hgw@....> - 2016-12-03 05:29 +1100
          Re: Lorentz transformations Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-11-29 12:36 -0600
            Re: Lorentz transformations "HGWilson, DSc." <hgw@....> - 2016-12-01 02:56 +1100
              Re: Lorentz transformations Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-11-30 10:36 -0600
                Re: Lorentz transformations HGW <hw@....> - 2016-12-01 08:43 +1100
                Re: Lorentz transformations Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-11-30 15:49 -0600
                Re: Lorentz transformations HGW <hw@....> - 2016-12-01 20:54 +1100
                Re: Lorentz transformations Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-12-01 10:41 -0600
                Re: Lorentz transformations "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-12-01 09:11 -0800
                Re: Lorentz transformations Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2016-12-01 15:10 +0100
                Re: Lorentz transformations moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-11-30 22:18 +0000
                Re: Lorentz transformations HGW <hw@....> - 2016-12-01 21:05 +1100
                Re: Lorentz transformations moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-12-01 15:51 +0000
                Re: Lorentz transformations "HGWilson, DSc." <hgw@....> - 2016-12-02 05:44 +1100
                Re: Lorentz transformations Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-12-01 13:21 -0600
                Re: Lorentz transformations "HGWilson, DSc." <hgw@....> - 2016-12-03 05:23 +1100
                Re: Lorentz transformations Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-12-02 12:27 -0600
                Re: Lorentz transformations HGW <hw@....> - 2016-12-04 11:03 +1100
                Re: Lorentz transformations benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2016-12-03 21:21 -0500
                Re: Lorentz transformations HGW <hw@....> - 2016-12-05 06:41 +1100
                Re: Lorentz transformations moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-12-05 01:14 +0000
                Re: Lorentz transformations Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-12-01 13:23 -0600

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