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Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection

From "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk>
Newsgroups alt.comp.os.windows-10
Subject Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection
Date 2025-08-02 15:46 +0100
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On 2025/8/2 14:57:8, s|b wrote:
> On Sat, 2 Aug 2025 12:15:56 +0100, Philip Herlihy wrote:
> 
>> I use UVNC to help friends when I can't use Quick Assist.
> 
> I've use UltraVNC in the past, but then switched to TeamViewer, because
> it was simply easier to let the other party download QuickSupport and

Yes, I was going to mention that when Philip mentioned what he installed
on their machine. the thing is, TeamViewer make it hard enough for _me_
to find the QS download on their website - I give those I'm wanting to
help the direct link to it when I find it (or actually send them - or
put it somewhere and point them to it - the executable).

> tell me the ID and password over the phone. I've downloaded QuickSupport
> to their desktop and placed it in the right corner, same everywhere.

Yes; it's much easier for them to use than the full TeamViewer, which
gives them the ability (which they don't need) to control remotely, as
well as be controlled. Why TV make it so hard to find, I don't know. (At
least, that's my opinion - and it may have changed; it's a while since
I've been to their site.)>
> I recently stumbled upon RustDesk which is similar, so I'll give that a
> go in the future.
> 
It puzzles me why so many of these solutions involve a third-party
server; surely direct connection between the machines would be simpler,
and cheaper for those providing the solution. I think there _is_
something built into Windows, from 7 or 10 on, but the existence of all
these alternatives suggest it's not very good; I'm surprised something
better direct (not needing a remote server) hasn't appeared after all
this time.Of course, all these require a system at least _somewhat_
working at both ends. The people I used TeamViewer most with are blind,
where it's a godsend being able to see their screen: they _can_ detect
what's on screen via software called a screenreader, but as you can
imagine, directing someone around via that is no fun. Last time I had to
lead them though a Macrium restore, we used Skype - between my PC, and
their iPhone, propped up so it could see the little monitor they keep
for when sighted folk visit to help them with computer things! It was
propped up sideways, and kept falling flat - and, she'd not used a mouse
before (or since, I imagine; a mouse is of little use to a blind person,
they only have it for visitors). [Yes, I'm sure you can use Macrium from
the keyboard only, but I'd not learnt the keystrokes. (Still haven't.)]
We succeeded though!
(Using a third-party server - with logins - _does_ have the advantage
that it gives you a sort of "address book" of the people you have helped
in the past, so if _you_ have to use a different machine to what you
used in the past, you don't have to scrabble around to find the
"addresses" of the people you've helped before. But I'm sure a direct
version could be devised to use a file you could keep on a - I was going
to say floppy, but I suppose USB stick these days.)
-- 
J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)Ar@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf

"To YOU I'm an atheist; to God, I'm the Loyal Opposition." - Woody Allen

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Alternative for remote desktop connection Fokke Nauta <fnauta@solfon.nl> - 2025-08-01 16:11 +0200
  Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection "Alan K." <alan@invalid.com> - 2025-08-01 10:28 -0400
    Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2025-08-01 18:19 +0100
      Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2025-08-01 12:33 -0500
        Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection "Alan K." <alan@invalid.com> - 2025-08-01 13:49 -0400
        Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2025-08-01 21:11 +0100
      Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection NY <me@privacy.net> - 2025-08-02 16:29 +0100
        Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2025-08-02 18:26 +0100
    Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection Fokke Nauta <fnauta@solfon.nl> - 2025-08-01 20:45 +0200
      Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> - 2025-08-02 15:58 +0200
        Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection Fokke Nauta <fnauta@solfon.nl> - 2025-08-02 16:35 +0200
  Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection Graham J <nobody@nowhere.co.uk> - 2025-08-01 16:43 +0100
    Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection Fokke Nauta <fnauta@solfon.nl> - 2025-08-01 20:47 +0200
  Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection T <T@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-01 09:02 -0700
    Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection T <T@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-01 09:13 -0700
  Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> - 2025-08-01 18:41 +0200
    Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection Fokke Nauta <fnauta@solfon.nl> - 2025-08-01 20:49 +0200
  Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2025-08-01 12:06 -0500
    Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection Fokke Nauta <fnauta@solfon.nl> - 2025-08-01 20:54 +0200
      Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2025-08-01 15:26 -0500
    Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection Michael Logies <logies@t-online.de> - 2025-08-06 15:58 +0200
      Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> - 2025-08-06 18:41 +0200
        Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2025-08-06 12:35 -0500
  Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection T <T@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-01 17:32 -0700
    Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection Philip Herlihy <nothing@invalid.com> - 2025-08-02 12:15 +0100
      Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> - 2025-08-02 15:57 +0200
        Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2025-08-02 15:46 +0100
          Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> - 2025-08-02 17:30 +0200
            Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2025-08-02 18:32 +0100
              Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-08-02 19:53 +0200
              Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-08-02 17:53 -0400
          Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> - 2025-08-03 19:43 +0200
          Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection Char Jackson <none@none.invalid> - 2025-08-03 20:41 -0500
            Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2025-08-04 11:55 +0100
              Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection Char Jackson <none@none.invalid> - 2025-08-04 23:22 -0500
                Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2025-08-05 20:24 +0100
            Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-08-04 12:57 +0200
        Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection T <T@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-03 23:10 -0700
          Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> - 2025-08-04 15:37 +0200
    Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> - 2025-08-02 15:54 +0200
  Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection Fokke Nauta <fnauta@solfon.nl> - 2025-08-02 16:40 +0200
    Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2025-08-02 19:56 -0500
      Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection Fokke Nauta <fnauta@solfon.nl> - 2025-08-03 20:36 +0200
        Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2025-08-03 18:11 -0500
          Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection Fokke Nauta <fnauta@solfon.nl> - 2025-08-04 11:34 +0200
            Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2025-08-04 14:06 -0500
              Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection Fokke Nauta <fnauta@solfon.nl> - 2025-08-06 08:59 +0200
    Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection Philip Herlihy <nothing@invalid.com> - 2025-08-03 21:07 +0100
      Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection Fokke Nauta <fnauta@solfon.nl> - 2025-08-04 11:24 +0200
        Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection Philip Herlihy <nothing@invalid.com> - 2025-08-04 10:50 +0100
          Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection Fokke Nauta <fnauta@solfon.nl> - 2025-08-06 09:01 +0200
            Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection Philip Herlihy <nothing@invalid.com> - 2025-08-07 11:39 +0100
              Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection Fokke Nauta <fnauta@solfon.nl> - 2025-08-07 15:19 +0200
        Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection Zaidy036 <Zaidy036@air.isp.spam> - 2025-08-04 16:25 -0400
          Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection Fokke Nauta <fnauta@solfon.nl> - 2025-08-06 09:03 +0200
  Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection Brian Gregory <void-invalid-dead-dontuse@email.invalid> - 2025-08-06 20:55 +0100
    Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection Brian Gregory <void-invalid-dead-dontuse@email.invalid> - 2025-08-06 21:00 +0100
      Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection Fokke Nauta <fnauta@solfon.nl> - 2025-08-07 15:22 +0200
    Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection Fokke Nauta <fnauta@solfon.nl> - 2025-08-07 15:20 +0200
      Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection Philip Herlihy <nothing@invalid.com> - 2025-08-08 11:44 +0100
        Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection Fokke Nauta <fnauta@solfon.nl> - 2025-08-09 12:59 +0200
          Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2025-08-09 13:17 -0500
            Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection Fokke Nauta <fnauta@solfon.nl> - 2025-08-10 18:01 +0200
              Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2025-08-10 18:12 +0100
                Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection Fokke Nauta <fnauta@solfon.nl> - 2025-08-10 19:33 +0200
                Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2025-08-10 19:08 +0100
                Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection Fokke Nauta <fnauta@solfon.nl> - 2025-08-11 09:46 +0200
                Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2025-08-11 14:07 +0100
                Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2025-08-11 08:19 -0500
                OT: Microsoft product (and service) naming (was: Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection) "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2025-08-11 14:36 +0100
                Re: OT: Microsoft product (and service) naming "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-20 11:06 +0200
                Re: OT: Microsoft product (and service) naming "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2025-10-20 10:48 +0100
                Re: OT: Microsoft product (and service) naming "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-20 13:36 +0200
                Re: OT: Microsoft product (and service) naming Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-10-20 12:36 +0000
            Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-08-10 19:57 +0200
      Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> - 2025-08-10 20:42 +0200
        Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection Fokke Nauta <fnauta@solfon.nl> - 2025-08-11 09:44 +0200
        Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2025-08-11 14:09 +0100
          Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2025-08-11 08:53 -0500
            Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2025-08-11 15:53 +0100
              Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2025-08-11 13:03 -0500
                Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2025-08-11 19:31 +0100
                Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> - 2025-08-11 21:11 +0200
                Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2025-08-12 02:00 +0100
                Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> - 2025-08-13 21:21 +0200
                Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection The Horny Goat <lcraver@home.ca> - 2025-10-19 23:36 -0700
                OT: ageing (was: Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection) "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2025-10-20 08:45 +0100
                Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2025-08-11 20:20 -0500
                Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection Java Jive <java@evij.com.invalid> - 2025-08-12 12:35 +0100
                Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2025-08-12 14:16 -0500
                Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection Java Jive <java@evij.com.invalid> - 2025-08-12 21:11 +0100
                Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2025-08-12 17:24 -0500
                Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection Java Jive <java@evij.com.invalid> - 2025-08-13 05:10 +0100
                Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-08-12 15:29 -0400
                Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection Michael Logies <logies@t-online.de> - 2025-08-11 22:40 +0200
                Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> - 2025-08-11 21:06 +0200
                Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2025-08-11 20:35 -0500
                Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2025-08-12 09:01 +0100
                Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2025-08-12 13:23 -0500
                Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2025-08-13 03:45 +0100
                Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> - 2025-08-13 21:28 +0200
                Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2025-08-13 17:09 -0500
                Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> - 2025-08-14 13:27 +0200
            Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> - 2025-08-11 21:03 +0200
              Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2025-08-11 20:39 -0500
          Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection rsutton <rsutton43@comcast.net> - 2025-08-12 07:49 -0400
            Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection wasbit <wasbit@REMOVEhotmail.com> - 2025-08-13 09:26 +0100
              Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection Fokke Nauta <fnauta@solfon.nl> - 2025-08-13 11:39 +0200
                Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2025-08-13 12:13 +0100
                Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection Fokke Nauta <fnauta@solfon.nl> - 2025-08-13 18:33 +0200
                Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2025-08-13 12:52 -0500
                Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection rsutton <rsutton43@comcast.net> - 2025-08-14 08:22 -0400
                Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection Fokke Nauta <fnauta@solfon.nl> - 2025-08-14 16:00 +0200

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