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Re: Kindle, short file names, and other matters

From "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk>
Newsgroups alt.comp.os.windows-10
Subject Re: Kindle, short file names, and other matters
Date 2025-07-29 23:23 +0100
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On 2025/7/29 13:48:52, Carlos E.R. wrote:
> On 2025-07-29 02:10, J. P. Gilliver wrote:
>> On 2025/7/28 20:48:54, Bennett Price wrote:
>>
>> []
>>
>>> In the United States many public libraries will lend Ebooks in Kindle
>>> book (and/or EPub) form, typically for 2 to 3 weeks at a time and will
>>> renew them if no one else is waiting for them.  Check with your local
>>
>> I don't want to _borrow_ this book, I want it - and the software to
>> access it - on my machine, even when not online. It seems I _do_ have
>> that - I was able to open it with the internet (wifi) disabled - though
>> I still have to use the clunky software (Kindle or calibre) to access it.
> 
> If Calibre is able to access (and read) the purchased book, the DeDRM 
> thing must be working. Otherwise you'd see gibberish. What you need now 
> is how to export or backup the book. I don't know how it is done with 
> the Kindle.
> 
> 
Calibre was indeed able to access the book (downloaded when I had the
current version of Kindle-for-PC; it seems unable to even access the
version downloaded with an _old_ version of Kindle-for-PC). But just
because calibre could _access_ it, didn't mean it could _convert_ (is
that what you mean by "export or backup"?) it; when I tried - either to
EPUB or PDF - it said something about DRM. So there seem to be (at
least) two levels of de-DRM-ing required - firstly to let Calibre open
it, and secondly to let calibre convert it. I'm not even sure the De-DRM
plugin _did_ let calibre _access_ it: I loaded the two plugins in the
order De-DRM first, then KFX; when I just had De-DRM installed, calibre
couldn't open the book.

(Is it possible to have two versions of Kindle-for-PC installed, or does
installing either [old or current] disable the other? It doesn't seem to
"install" like ordinary software - no new entry appeared in my Start
menu tree, the only way to open it seems to be to double-click on the
downloaded file. [Actually when it _was_ open after doing that, I did a
"pin to taskbar".])
-- 
J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)Ar@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf

Of course some of it [television] is bad. But some of everything is bad
- books, music, family ... - Melvyn Bragg, RT 2017/7/1-7

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Kindle, short file names, and other matters "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2025-07-27 14:27 +0100
  Re: Kindle, short file names, and other matters WolfFan <akwolffan@zoho.com> - 2025-07-27 10:08 -0400
    Re: Kindle, short file names, and other matters "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2025-07-27 16:22 +0100
      Re: Kindle, short file names, and other matters croy <croy@spam.invalid.net> - 2025-07-27 09:18 -0700
      Re: Kindle, short file names, and other matters WolfFan <akwolffan@zoho.com> - 2025-07-27 13:22 -0400
        Re: Kindle, short file names, and other matters "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-07-27 20:12 +0200
        Re: Kindle, short file names, and other matters "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2025-07-28 04:47 +0100
        Re: Kindle, short file names, and other matters The Horny Goat <lcraver@home.ca> - 2025-09-18 18:06 -0700
          Re: Kindle, short file names, and other matters "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2025-09-19 06:42 +0100
      Re: Kindle, short file names, and other matters John Hall <john_nospam@jhall.co.uk> - 2025-07-27 19:26 +0100
  Re: Kindle, short file names, and other matters Ed Cryer <ed@somewhere.in.the.uk> - 2025-07-27 16:22 +0100
  Re: Kindle, short file names, and other matters "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-07-27 20:14 +0200
    Re: Kindle, short file names, and other matters "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2025-07-28 04:22 +0100
      Re: Kindle, short file names, and other matters "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-07-28 14:31 +0200
        Re: Kindle, short file names, and other matters Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-07-28 14:28 +0000
          Re: Kindle, short file names, and other matters "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2025-07-28 16:58 +0100
            Re: Kindle, short file names, and other matters "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-07-29 14:40 +0200
              Re: Kindle, short file names, and other matters Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> - 2025-07-30 04:28 +0200
                Re: Kindle, short file names, and other matters "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2025-07-30 22:03 +0100
          Re: Kindle, short file names, and other matters "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-07-29 14:30 +0200
      Re: Kindle, short file names, and other matters Java Jive <java@evij.com.invalid> - 2025-07-28 15:40 +0100
        Re: Kindle, short file names, and other matters "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2025-07-28 17:09 +0100
          Re: Kindle, short file names, and other matters Java Jive <java@evij.com.invalid> - 2025-07-28 20:50 +0100
            Re: Kindle, short file names, and other matters "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2025-07-29 01:04 +0100
          Re: Kindle, short file names, and other matters Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-07-29 13:43 +0000
            Re: Kindle, short file names, and other matters "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-07-29 19:13 +0200
            Re: Kindle, short file names, and other matters "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2025-07-29 23:08 +0100
              Re: Kindle, short file names, and other matters Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-07-31 09:54 +0000
      Re: Kindle, short file names, and other matters Char Jackson <none@none.invalid> - 2025-07-28 11:04 -0500
        Re: Kindle, short file names, and other matters "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2025-07-28 17:13 +0100
  Re: Kindle, short file names, and other matters John Hall <john_nospam@jhall.co.uk> - 2025-07-27 19:22 +0100
    Re: Kindle, short file names, and other matters "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-07-27 20:52 +0200
    Re: Kindle, short file names, and other matters sticks <wolverine01@charter.net> - 2025-07-27 15:16 -0500
    Re: Kindle, short file names, and other matters "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2025-07-28 04:34 +0100
      Re: Kindle, short file names, and other matters sticks <wolverine01@charter.net> - 2025-07-27 23:05 -0500
      Re: Kindle, short file names, and other matters John Hall <john_nospam@jhall.co.uk> - 2025-07-28 10:04 +0100
        Re: Kindle, short file names, and other matters "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2025-07-28 12:02 +0100
          Re: Kindle, short file names, and other matters John Hall <john_nospam@jhall.co.uk> - 2025-07-28 16:59 +0100
            Re: Kindle, short file names, and other matters "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2025-07-28 17:30 +0100
      Re: Kindle, short file names, and other matters "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-07-28 14:34 +0200
        Re: Kindle, short file names, and other matters "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2025-07-28 17:21 +0100
          Re: Kindle, short file names, and other matters "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-07-29 14:45 +0200
            Re: Kindle, short file names, and other matters "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2025-07-29 23:12 +0100
              Re: Kindle, short file names, and other matters "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-07-30 02:47 +0200
          Re: Kindle, short file names, and other matters croy <croy@spam.invalid.net> - 2025-07-30 08:50 -0700
            Re: Kindle, short file names, and other matters "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2025-07-30 22:07 +0100
  Re: Kindle, short file names, and other matters Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> - 2025-07-28 06:25 +0200
    Re: Kindle, short file names, and other matters "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-07-28 14:37 +0200
  Re: Kindle, short file names, and other matters Bennett Price <bjprice@cal.berkeley.edu> - 2025-07-28 12:48 -0700
    Re: Kindle, short file names, and other matters "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2025-07-29 01:10 +0100
      Re: Kindle, short file names, and other matters "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-07-29 14:48 +0200
        Re: Kindle, short file names, and other matters "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2025-07-29 23:23 +0100
          Re: Kindle, short file names, and other matters "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-07-30 02:58 +0200
            Re: Kindle, short file names, and other matters "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2025-07-30 22:23 +0100
              Re: Kindle, short file names, and other matters "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-07-31 15:30 +0200
                Re: Kindle, short file names, and other matters "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2025-07-31 16:11 +0100
                Re: Kindle, short file names, and other matters "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-07-31 22:39 +0200
                Re: Kindle, short file names, and other matters "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2025-08-01 21:03 +0100
                Re: Kindle, short file names, and other matters "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-08-02 03:42 +0200
                Re: Kindle, short file names, and other matters "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2025-08-02 08:30 +0100
                Re: Kindle, short file names, and other matters John Hall <john_nospam@jhall.co.uk> - 2025-08-02 10:31 +0100
                Re: Kindle, short file names, and other matters "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2025-08-02 19:32 +0100
                Re: Kindle, short file names, and other matters "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-08-02 14:33 +0200
                Re: Kindle, short file names, and other matters "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2025-08-02 16:55 +0100
                Re: Kindle, short file names, and other matters Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> - 2025-08-02 18:06 +0200
                Re: Kindle, short file names, and other matters "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2025-08-02 19:16 +0100
                Re: Kindle, short file names, and other matters "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-08-02 22:59 +0200
                Kindle, chatgpt "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2025-08-03 02:24 +0100
                Re: Kindle, chatgpt "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-08-03 22:08 +0200
                Re: Kindle, chatgpt "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2025-08-04 03:09 +0100
                Re: Kindle, chatgpt "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-08-04 12:46 +0200
                Re: Kindle, chatgpt "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2025-08-04 12:03 +0100
                Re: Kindle, chatgpt "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-08-04 13:43 +0200
                Re: Kindle, chatgpt Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-08-04 12:56 +0000
                Re: Kindle, chatgpt Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-08-04 14:35 -0400
      Re: Kindle, short file names, and other matters Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> - 2025-08-02 18:21 +0200
  Re: Kindle, short file names, and other matters Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-08-04 13:05 +0000
    Re: Kindle, short file names, and other matters "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2025-08-06 23:20 +0100
      Re: Kindle, short file names, and other matters "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-08-07 14:43 +0200

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