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Re: Creating new files of indeterminate sort?

From Paul <nospam@needed.invalid>
Newsgroups alt.comp.os.windows-10
Subject Re: Creating new files of indeterminate sort?
Date 2025-07-28 08:18 -0400
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On Mon, 7/28/2025 7:39 AM, J. P. Gilliver wrote:
> Is there any way to add something of the sort to the "New ..." menu in
> File Manager?
> 
> I recently wanted to create a .css file, for example. The only way I
> know is to create a new text file (that's the only option that makes a
> file of zero size), then rename it, accepting the warning about changing
> the extension. (Or create and edit it as a text file, then have to
> fiddle with the name in the save function in Notepad or whatever editor.)
> 

There probably is a way to make a .css file from a menu.

In Notepad, setting the filetype to "All Files" and saving as "some.css"
seems to give a CSS file without a .txt glued to the end. It does not
look like the operation is that much of a trauma, to be done manually :-)

On the Macintosh, there was a utility called "FileTyper" which everyone
used, and that is the rough equivalent of changing the extension from
.txt to .css . It's a popular topic, this object oriented override wish
we have. On their utility, it still takes typing, to make the change.
Just in case you were thinking the utility was a mind reader and did
the right thing without asking.

But making a menu with the creation capability for 200 item types,
does that make sense ? That's what we have to ask. On Linux, there
is one wildcard file type and it is a "New.txt" kind of thing (users
edit the details), there is a folder creation item and so on. They
don't have 200 file types in their menu, and they also don't even
rely on the extension for identifying files. A CSS would be detected
by having "CSS constructs" or a "CSS magic number" near the top of the file.

On Linux, there are at least 100 different text file types which the
"file" utility recognizes. Including text file types I would claim
to you are "damaged goods", Linux identifies them as if they
exist intentionally. Like a text file, where the line termination
style changes... half way through the document. Linux has a detection
for that.

Summary: There will always be a need for the user to do some things manually.
         A utility for such a purpose, would still need a gigantic menu,
         or a hole to type the identifier of the file type, so it's pretty
         hard to avoid the manual labour. Even if an AI was involved, you
         would still have to say "make this a CSS for me", so there is still
         a selection step. If you didn't tell the AI exactly what to do, it
         would be just as likely to "find and delete your database for you" :-)
         AI have that special something, called "a lack of common sense".
         They're the helper, that always spills your drink, before getting
         to the table.

   Paul

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Creating new files of indeterminate sort? "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2025-07-28 12:39 +0100
  Re: Creating new files of indeterminate sort? Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-07-28 08:18 -0400
    Re: Creating new files of indeterminate sort? "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2025-07-28 16:46 +0100
      Re: Creating new files of indeterminate sort? "R.Wieser" <address@is.invalid> - 2025-07-28 18:51 +0200
        Re: Creating new files of indeterminate sort? "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2025-07-28 19:10 +0100
          Re: Creating new files of indeterminate sort? "R.Wieser" <address@is.invalid> - 2025-07-28 22:18 +0200
            Re: Creating new files of indeterminate sort? "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2025-07-29 01:37 +0100
              Re: Creating new files of indeterminate sort? "R.Wieser" <address@is.invalid> - 2025-07-29 09:10 +0200
                Re: Creating new files of indeterminate sort? "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2025-07-29 18:46 +0100
                Re: Creating new files of indeterminate sort? knuttle <keith_nuttle@yahoo.com> - 2025-07-29 13:58 -0400
                Re: Creating new files of indeterminate sort? "R.Wieser" <address@is.invalid> - 2025-07-29 20:21 +0200
                Re: Creating new files of indeterminate sort? knuttle <keith_nuttle@yahoo.com> - 2025-07-29 15:20 -0400
                Re: Creating new files of indeterminate sort? "R.Wieser" <address@is.invalid> - 2025-07-29 21:47 +0200
                Re: Creating new files of indeterminate sort? "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2025-07-29 22:38 +0100
                Re: Creating new files of indeterminate sort? "R.Wieser" <address@is.invalid> - 2025-07-30 08:57 +0200
                Re: Creating new files of indeterminate sort? Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-07-29 22:02 -0400
                Re: Creating new files of indeterminate sort? "R.Wieser" <address@is.invalid> - 2025-07-30 09:54 +0200
                Re: Creating new files of indeterminate sort? Philip Herlihy <nothing@invalid.com> - 2025-07-30 14:24 +0100
                Re: Creating new files of indeterminate sort? Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-07-30 09:55 -0400
                Re: Creating new files of indeterminate sort? knuttle <keith_nuttle@yahoo.com> - 2025-07-30 13:44 -0400
                Re: Creating new files of indeterminate sort? Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-07-30 23:33 -0400
              Re: Creating new files of indeterminate sort? "R.Wieser" <address@is.invalid> - 2025-07-29 10:03 +0200
                Re: Creating new files of indeterminate sort? "R.Wieser" <address@is.invalid> - 2025-07-29 10:15 +0200
                Re: Creating new files of indeterminate sort? "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2025-07-29 22:51 +0100
                Re: Creating new files of indeterminate sort? "R.Wieser" <address@is.invalid> - 2025-07-30 09:42 +0200
                Re: Creating new files of indeterminate sort? Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-07-30 10:02 -0400
                Re: Creating new files of indeterminate sort? "R.Wieser" <address@is.invalid> - 2025-07-30 17:04 +0200
                Re: Creating new files of indeterminate sort? "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2025-07-30 21:49 +0100
                Re: Creating new files of indeterminate sort? Mark Lloyd <not.email@all.invalid> - 2025-07-30 18:15 +0000
                Re: Creating new files of indeterminate sort? Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-07-30 23:37 -0400
    Re: Creating new files of indeterminate sort? Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2025-07-29 06:26 +0000
      Re: Creating new files of indeterminate sort? Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-07-29 12:06 -0400
  Re: Creating new files of indeterminate sort? Philip Herlihy <nothing@invalid.com> - 2025-07-28 13:40 +0100
    Re: Creating new files of indeterminate sort? knuttle <keith_nuttle@yahoo.com> - 2025-07-28 12:43 -0400
  Re: Creating new files of indeterminate sort? "R.Wieser" <address@is.invalid> - 2025-07-28 14:49 +0200
  Re: Creating new files of indeterminate sort? "Alan K." <alan@invalid.com> - 2025-07-28 08:53 -0400
  Re: Creating new files of indeterminate sort? Herbert Kleebauer <klee@unibwm.de> - 2025-07-28 17:01 +0200
    Re: Creating new files of indeterminate sort? "R.Wieser" <address@is.invalid> - 2025-07-28 17:21 +0200

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