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Re: Kindle, short file names, and other matters

From Ed Cryer <ed@somewhere.in.the.uk>
Newsgroups alt.comp.os.windows-10
Subject Re: Kindle, short file names, and other matters
Date 2025-07-27 16:22 +0100
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J. P. Gilliver wrote:
> So far, I've resisted going Kindle, as I do not understand, am
> suspicious, of how it works - remote control of what I have, it seems.
> 
> However, I recently read about a book that is useful for genealogy (if
> anyone's interested, it's The Oxford Dictionary of Family Names in
> Britain and Ireland - see
> https://www.lostcousins.com/newsletters2/latejul25news.htm#Oxford for
> details), so I took the plunge. (The above link told me I don't have to
> have a Kindle device, I can "download the Kindle app" for the computer.)
> 
> First, I tried to download it from the link provided, but was told I
> don't have any devices registered, or some such wording - but it did
> include a link to get the "app". So I did, and then was able to get the
> book.
> 
> Among other things, I ended up with a directory
> D:\document.etc\My Kindle Content (which I had accepted during the
> process). [D:\document.etc is my "documents" folder.] Curiously, doing a
> "dir /x m*.*" from document.etc shows that MKC _doesn't_ have a short
> filename.
> 
> Within MKC, there appear to be three items: a 112 KB file called
> book_asset.db, a directory called NoteDocuments which appears to be
> empty, and a subfolder called B01N41TEO3_EBOK. None of these seem to
> have short names.
> 
> I say _appear_, because a size indicator I like to use - scanner, from
> Steffen Gerlach (http://www.steffengerlach.de/freeware/), when pointed
> at MKD, doesn't see the B* subdirectory.
> 
> Anyway, within B01N41TEO3_EBOK are about 21 files - a .voucher file of
> size 1,165, 18 .res files and a .md file all of about 1-3 MB, and a .azw
> file of 45.4 MB, totalling 97.4 MB (all sizes according to scanner).
> 
> Double-clicking on the .azw file causes "J.'s Kindle for PC" to open,
> displaying the book.
> 
> Because of my - OK, paranoia - about Kindle, I verified that this
> (double-clicking on the file) worked with my internet connection
> disconnected: in other words, both the book and the software to access
> it are definitely on my PC.
> 
> I'd be interested in comments - in particular,
> (a) is the access limited to just this PC?
> (b) can Amazon remotely delete it? (This PC is online most of the time.)
> 
> Plus are the files and folders as they appear, or is what I see in File
> Explorer a fiction? (On my Windows 7 32 bit machine, I used to use Xtree
> Gold to see what was really going on, but that won't work under 10-64 [I
> think it's the 64 that stops it rather than the 10].) And I didn't know
> things could exist without a short (8.3) name, but "dir /?" - under /X -
> implies they can.

Calibre is far preferable, as Wolfan says; and free, and well attested 
by yours truly over the years.
Uninstall whatever new apps have been installed in Control Centre/ 
Programs (order them in installed date order, which will make sneaked-in 
ones quicker to spot), and get Calibre.
There is also a plugin that handles DRM in Kindle files. You can get it 
here;
https://www.epubor.com/calibre-drm-removal-plugins.html
Read the installation guide carefully.

Oh, and for the future try and stick with EPUB format for ebooks. 
They're usually more error-free than Kindle ones.

Ed

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Kindle, short file names, and other matters "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2025-07-27 14:27 +0100
  Re: Kindle, short file names, and other matters WolfFan <akwolffan@zoho.com> - 2025-07-27 10:08 -0400
    Re: Kindle, short file names, and other matters "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2025-07-27 16:22 +0100
      Re: Kindle, short file names, and other matters croy <croy@spam.invalid.net> - 2025-07-27 09:18 -0700
      Re: Kindle, short file names, and other matters WolfFan <akwolffan@zoho.com> - 2025-07-27 13:22 -0400
        Re: Kindle, short file names, and other matters "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-07-27 20:12 +0200
        Re: Kindle, short file names, and other matters "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2025-07-28 04:47 +0100
        Re: Kindle, short file names, and other matters The Horny Goat <lcraver@home.ca> - 2025-09-18 18:06 -0700
          Re: Kindle, short file names, and other matters "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2025-09-19 06:42 +0100
      Re: Kindle, short file names, and other matters John Hall <john_nospam@jhall.co.uk> - 2025-07-27 19:26 +0100
  Re: Kindle, short file names, and other matters Ed Cryer <ed@somewhere.in.the.uk> - 2025-07-27 16:22 +0100
  Re: Kindle, short file names, and other matters "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-07-27 20:14 +0200
    Re: Kindle, short file names, and other matters "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2025-07-28 04:22 +0100
      Re: Kindle, short file names, and other matters "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-07-28 14:31 +0200
        Re: Kindle, short file names, and other matters Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-07-28 14:28 +0000
          Re: Kindle, short file names, and other matters "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2025-07-28 16:58 +0100
            Re: Kindle, short file names, and other matters "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-07-29 14:40 +0200
              Re: Kindle, short file names, and other matters Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> - 2025-07-30 04:28 +0200
                Re: Kindle, short file names, and other matters "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2025-07-30 22:03 +0100
          Re: Kindle, short file names, and other matters "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-07-29 14:30 +0200
      Re: Kindle, short file names, and other matters Java Jive <java@evij.com.invalid> - 2025-07-28 15:40 +0100
        Re: Kindle, short file names, and other matters "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2025-07-28 17:09 +0100
          Re: Kindle, short file names, and other matters Java Jive <java@evij.com.invalid> - 2025-07-28 20:50 +0100
            Re: Kindle, short file names, and other matters "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2025-07-29 01:04 +0100
          Re: Kindle, short file names, and other matters Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-07-29 13:43 +0000
            Re: Kindle, short file names, and other matters "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-07-29 19:13 +0200
            Re: Kindle, short file names, and other matters "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2025-07-29 23:08 +0100
              Re: Kindle, short file names, and other matters Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-07-31 09:54 +0000
      Re: Kindle, short file names, and other matters Char Jackson <none@none.invalid> - 2025-07-28 11:04 -0500
        Re: Kindle, short file names, and other matters "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2025-07-28 17:13 +0100
  Re: Kindle, short file names, and other matters John Hall <john_nospam@jhall.co.uk> - 2025-07-27 19:22 +0100
    Re: Kindle, short file names, and other matters "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-07-27 20:52 +0200
    Re: Kindle, short file names, and other matters sticks <wolverine01@charter.net> - 2025-07-27 15:16 -0500
    Re: Kindle, short file names, and other matters "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2025-07-28 04:34 +0100
      Re: Kindle, short file names, and other matters sticks <wolverine01@charter.net> - 2025-07-27 23:05 -0500
      Re: Kindle, short file names, and other matters John Hall <john_nospam@jhall.co.uk> - 2025-07-28 10:04 +0100
        Re: Kindle, short file names, and other matters "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2025-07-28 12:02 +0100
          Re: Kindle, short file names, and other matters John Hall <john_nospam@jhall.co.uk> - 2025-07-28 16:59 +0100
            Re: Kindle, short file names, and other matters "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2025-07-28 17:30 +0100
      Re: Kindle, short file names, and other matters "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-07-28 14:34 +0200
        Re: Kindle, short file names, and other matters "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2025-07-28 17:21 +0100
          Re: Kindle, short file names, and other matters "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-07-29 14:45 +0200
            Re: Kindle, short file names, and other matters "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2025-07-29 23:12 +0100
              Re: Kindle, short file names, and other matters "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-07-30 02:47 +0200
          Re: Kindle, short file names, and other matters croy <croy@spam.invalid.net> - 2025-07-30 08:50 -0700
            Re: Kindle, short file names, and other matters "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2025-07-30 22:07 +0100
  Re: Kindle, short file names, and other matters Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> - 2025-07-28 06:25 +0200
    Re: Kindle, short file names, and other matters "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-07-28 14:37 +0200
  Re: Kindle, short file names, and other matters Bennett Price <bjprice@cal.berkeley.edu> - 2025-07-28 12:48 -0700
    Re: Kindle, short file names, and other matters "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2025-07-29 01:10 +0100
      Re: Kindle, short file names, and other matters "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-07-29 14:48 +0200
        Re: Kindle, short file names, and other matters "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2025-07-29 23:23 +0100
          Re: Kindle, short file names, and other matters "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-07-30 02:58 +0200
            Re: Kindle, short file names, and other matters "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2025-07-30 22:23 +0100
              Re: Kindle, short file names, and other matters "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-07-31 15:30 +0200
                Re: Kindle, short file names, and other matters "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2025-07-31 16:11 +0100
                Re: Kindle, short file names, and other matters "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-07-31 22:39 +0200
                Re: Kindle, short file names, and other matters "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2025-08-01 21:03 +0100
                Re: Kindle, short file names, and other matters "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-08-02 03:42 +0200
                Re: Kindle, short file names, and other matters "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2025-08-02 08:30 +0100
                Re: Kindle, short file names, and other matters John Hall <john_nospam@jhall.co.uk> - 2025-08-02 10:31 +0100
                Re: Kindle, short file names, and other matters "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2025-08-02 19:32 +0100
                Re: Kindle, short file names, and other matters "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-08-02 14:33 +0200
                Re: Kindle, short file names, and other matters "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2025-08-02 16:55 +0100
                Re: Kindle, short file names, and other matters Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> - 2025-08-02 18:06 +0200
                Re: Kindle, short file names, and other matters "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2025-08-02 19:16 +0100
                Re: Kindle, short file names, and other matters "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-08-02 22:59 +0200
                Kindle, chatgpt "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2025-08-03 02:24 +0100
                Re: Kindle, chatgpt "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-08-03 22:08 +0200
                Re: Kindle, chatgpt "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2025-08-04 03:09 +0100
                Re: Kindle, chatgpt "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-08-04 12:46 +0200
                Re: Kindle, chatgpt "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2025-08-04 12:03 +0100
                Re: Kindle, chatgpt "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-08-04 13:43 +0200
                Re: Kindle, chatgpt Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-08-04 12:56 +0000
                Re: Kindle, chatgpt Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-08-04 14:35 -0400
      Re: Kindle, short file names, and other matters Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> - 2025-08-02 18:21 +0200
  Re: Kindle, short file names, and other matters Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-08-04 13:05 +0000
    Re: Kindle, short file names, and other matters "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2025-08-06 23:20 +0100
      Re: Kindle, short file names, and other matters "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-08-07 14:43 +0200

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