Is Mostowski Collapse a professional mathematician (Re: Is Mild Shock going rogue?)

From	Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm>
Newsgroups	sci.math
Subject	Is Mostowski Collapse a professional mathematician (Re: Is Mild Shock going rogue?)
Date	2025-07-25 14:32 +0200
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Mild Shock schrieb:
> Hi,
> 
> Is Mild Shock going rogue? Not really,
> I am only amused that a couple of academic
> frauds like these here:
> 
> - Bart Demoen
> 
> - Ulrich Neumerkel
> 
> - Paulo Moura
> 
> - Joseph Vidal-Rosset
> 
> Think they can oppress what they view a
> non-academic. Its more explicit in what
> Bart Demoen wrote back then, but more
> 
> implicit how the above morons act. For
> example blocking me from all repositories,
> making it impossible for me to raise issues,
> 
> and strangly discussion by dogmatic nonsense,
> doesn't increase the willingness of the
> harassed person to share something:
> 
> What occurs-check optimizations is SWI Prolog using?
> https://stackoverflow.com/a/65620337/17524790
> 
> Also that gists would be found on
> archive.org is nonsense.
> 
> Bye
> 
> Mild Shock schrieb:
>> Hi,
>>
>> Having fun with Bisimulation, and a new test
>> suite of nasty circular pairs. But how store
>> circular pairs, if clauses do not support
>>
>> circular terms. Well chop it up into equations,
>> I create 1000 such equation pairs:
>>
>> test([A = c(A, B), C = c(A, D), E = n, _ = c(F, B),
>>        F = c(C, C), G = c(G, D), D = c(E, C), B = n],
>>       [H = c(H, I), J = c(K, I), L = c(L, I), I = c(M, N),
>>        O = c(K, J), N = n, K = c(K, J), M = c(K, O)]).
>> Etc..
>>
>> The pairs are nasty because the usual compare_with_stack/2
>> chokes on them. Here some results:
>>
>> /* SWI-Prolog 9.3.26 */
>> ?- time((between(1,30,_), part, fail; true)).
>> % 540,118 inferences, 0.047 CPU in 0.041 seconds (115% CPU, 11522517 
>> Lips)
>> true.
>>
>> /* Trealla Prolog 2.78.40 */
>> ?- time((between(1,30,_), part, fail; true)).
>> % Time elapsed 0.113s, 1143903 Inferences, 10.157 MLips
>>     true.
>>
>> /* Scryer Prolog 0.9.4-417 */
>> ?- time((between(1,30,_), part, fail; true)).
>>     % CPU time: 0.226s, 1_117_809 inferences
>>     true.
>>
>> /* Dogelog Player 1.3.5 */
>> ?- time((between(1,30,_), part2, fail; true)).
>> % Zeit 309 ms, GC 0 ms, Lips 8693718, Uhr 25.07.2025 13:47
>> true.
>>
>> The amazing thing is, I compared a 100% Prolog
>> implementation, so there is a lot of head room
>> for improvement:
>>
>> part2 :-
>>     bitest(X,Y), X ~~ Y, fail; true.
>>
>> The operator (~~)/2 is part of library(math),
>> and has been implemented with same_term/2 so far.
>>
>> Bye
>

Thread

Novacore goes Bisimulation: Scryer Prolog is Slow! Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2025-07-25 14:30 +0200
  Is Mild Shock going rogue? (Re: Novacore goes Bisimulation: Scryer Prolog is Slow!) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2025-07-25 14:32 +0200
    Is Mostowski Collapse a professional mathematician (Re: Is Mild Shock going rogue?) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2025-07-25 14:32 +0200
      New Project Name: NovaCore becomes VibeCore (Re: Is Mostowski Collapse a professional mathematician) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2025-07-25 14:43 +0200
  The End of Deutsch-Schorr-Waite [cycle_detection.rs] (Re: Novacore goes Bisimulation: Scryer Prolog is Slow!) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2025-07-28 10:51 +0200
    Backtracking Branching Association List (Was: The End of Deutsch-Schorr-Waite [cycle_detection.rs]) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2025-07-28 10:57 +0200
      Do it like in acyclic_decompose/3 (Was: Backtracking Branching Association List) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2025-07-28 11:39 +0200
        Cache-Trashing vs Cache-Friendly [Code Example] (Re: Do it like in acyclic_decompose/3) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2025-07-28 17:27 +0200
    Re: The End of Deutsch-Schorr-Waite [cycle_detection.rs] (Re: Novacore goes Bisimulation: Scryer Prolog is Slow!) Jordon Molokovsky <ovm@lorr.ru> - 2025-07-28 12:56 +0000
      I guess your brain was "overheating" (Re: The End of Deutsch-Schorr-Waite [cycle_detection.rs]) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2025-07-28 17:17 +0200
        Re: I guess your brain was "overheating" (Re: The End of Deutsch-Schorr-Waite [cycle_detection.rs]) Alton Grammatakakis <kl@aaasi.gr> - 2025-07-28 16:09 +0000
          The difference is only in one letter "t" or "d" (Was: I guess your brain was "overheating") Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2025-07-28 21:17 +0200
          Re: You literally wrote "overheat" (Re: I guess your brain was "overheating" (Re: The End of Deutsch-Schorr-Waite [cycle_detection.rs]) Neury Valetov <ntt@uovrav.ru> - 2025-07-28 19:44 +0000
            Don't put large memory in your computer it might "overheat" (Re: You literally wrote "overheat") Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2025-07-29 15:57 +0200
            Re: Don't put large memory in your computer it might "overheat" (Was: You literally wrote "overheat") Mizraim Zelenenkov <iall@zm.ru> - 2025-07-29 16:00 +0000
              Why Russ Bots Again: Micro Penis? (Was: Don't put large memory in your computer it might "overheat" ) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2025-07-29 23:16 +0200
      Re: I guess your brain was "overheating" (Re: The End of Deutsch-Schorr-Waite [cycle_detection.rs]) Emile Paduchev <mcc@clleeeme.ru> - 2025-07-28 15:53 +0000
        You literally wrote "overheat" (Was: I guess your brain was "overheating") Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2025-07-28 21:19 +0200
    Entering the Age of Rational Trees (2025) (Re: The End of Deutsch-Schorr-Waite [cycle_detection.rs]) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2025-08-16 13:05 +0200
  The pairs are nasty, otherwise not always slow! (Re: Novacore goes Bisimulation: Scryer Prolog is Slow!) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2025-07-30 14:44 +0200
  It was painful for my GC, but fixed now (Was: The pairs are nasty, otherwise not always slow!) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2025-07-30 14:49 +0200

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