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Re: Everyone now has your login - which is the problem with Apple's dumb terminals

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On Thu, 22 May 2025 15:53:47 -0400, Joel wrote :


> Incorrect, I think iOS and macOS are garbage, crapware, goofy even.
> Certainly I agree with you that they're less secure, but I don't agree
> that an iPhone is a dumb terminal, that's just ignoring a basic fact.

You can disagree with the facts - but if you say I'm on drugs simply
because you hate the facts - that says more about you than about me.

I respond to each person in the way that they approach me, where I consider
your response above that of an adult - so I will respond in kind as an
adult.

Why do I claim the iPhone is a dumb terminal, Joel?

Might it be because almost nothing works on iOS unless you log that
terminal into the Apple mainframe servers, Joel? 

Worse, if you don't have an account on the mainframe, then the dumb
terminal device does almost nothing but take pictures. That's about it.

You can't run any software other than what came with the device, Joel.
That's pretty dumb since almost nobody can make do with the native apps.

But what's worse, is even if you do create an account on the mainframe, the
device is *still* a dumb terminal in that it can't do anything every other
operating system does, Joel.

Why can't iOS run the Tor Browser, for example?
Why can't iOS run a system-wide Firewall, for example?
Why can't iOS do graphical wi-fi/cellular debugging, for example?

The list of things every other operating system does that iOS can't do is
astoundingly high, Joel. It's astronomical what iOS can't do. It's a toy.

At best, iOS is a toy.
But it's really just a dumb terminal.

Without logging into Apple's mainframes, it can't do anything useful.
And even with logging into the mainframes, it's still brain dead.

Try to set the default app launcher for example, on iOS.
Try to spoof your GPS location for example, on iOS.
Try to set the default camera app, or music player or video player or file
manager or homescreen launcher, etc.

The best characterization of iOS is that it's merely a dumb terminal.

And even when you log into the mainframe, then it progresses to being brain
dead since it can't do thousands of things every other OS easily does. 

You can disagree with the facts - but if you say I'm on drugs simply
because you hate the facts - that says more about you than about me.

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Everyone now has your login - which is the problem with Apple's dumb terminals Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-05-22 16:33 +0000
  Re: Everyone now has your login - which is the problem with Apple's dumb terminals Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-05-22 09:48 -0700
    Re: Everyone now has your login - which is the problem with Apple's dumb terminals Victor <victorheyne@notreal.org> - 2025-05-22 12:07 -0500
      Re: Everyone now has your login - which is the problem with Apple's dumb terminals Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-05-22 10:14 -0700
        Re: Everyone now has your login - which is the problem with Apple's dumb terminals Victor <victorheyne@notreal.org> - 2025-05-22 12:31 -0500
          Re: Everyone now has your login - which is the problem with Apple's dumb terminals Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-05-22 11:50 -0700
    Re: Everyone now has your login - which is the problem with Apple's dumb terminals Victor <victorheyne@notreal.org> - 2025-05-22 12:17 -0500
  Re: Everyone now has your login - which is the problem with Apple's dumb terminals Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-05-22 13:38 -0400
    Re: Everyone now has your login - which is the problem with Apple's dumb terminals Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-05-22 17:48 +0000
      Re: Everyone now has your login - which is the problem with Apple's dumb terminals Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-05-22 14:25 -0400
        Re: Everyone now has your login - which is the problem with Apple's dumb terminals Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-05-22 19:48 +0000
          Re: Everyone now has your login - which is the problem with Apple's dumb terminals Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-05-22 15:53 -0400
            Re: Everyone now has your login - which is the problem with Apple's dumb terminals Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-05-22 20:02 +0000
              Re: Everyone now has your login - which is the problem with Apple's dumb terminals Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-05-22 16:34 -0400
                Re: Everyone now has your login - which is the problem with Apple's dumb terminals Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-05-22 22:22 +0000
  Re: Everyone now has your login.   No they don't. (was: Everyone now has your login - which is the problem with Apple's dumb terminals) Tyrone <none@none.none> - 2025-05-23 00:23 +0000
    Re: Everyone now has your login.   No they don't. Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-05-23 02:51 +0000
      Re: Everyone now has your login. No they don't. Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-05-22 20:18 -0700
      Re: Everyone now has your login.   No they don't. Tyrone <none@none.none> - 2025-05-23 22:29 +0000
        Re: Everyone now has your login.  No they don't. Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2025-05-24 16:17 +0000
          Re: Everyone now has your login.  No they don't. Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-05-24 20:46 +0000
            Re: Everyone now has your login. No they don't. Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-05-24 14:34 -0700
  Re: Everyone now has your login - which is the problem with Apple's dumb terminals Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2025-05-23 18:07 +0000
    Re: Everyone now has your login - which is the problem with Apple's dumb terminals Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-05-23 18:38 +0000
      Re: Everyone now has your login - which is the problem with Apple's dumb terminals Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-05-23 12:10 -0700

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