Re: What determines the fact that some youtube apps/platforms have ads and some don't?

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Subject	Re: What determines the fact that some youtube apps/platforms have ads and some don't?
Date	2016-09-10 12:11 -0400
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In article <nr1a20$9pu$1@dont-email.me>, Mayayana
<mayayana@invalid.nospam> wrote:

> 
> | >    As I said, I don't want it to play. I don't want it
> | > to load. I don't want to enable script or install Flash.
> | > I don't want any video running in the browser. There
> | > are more options for download if one doesn't mind
> | > starting the video, but I'm only interested in things
> | > that will actually provide the direct download.
> |
> | you never watch videos in a browser? ever?
> 
>    No. We've gone through this before. I disable
> script wherever possible for security and privacy.

that does very little for security and nothing for privacy.

> (Currently there's one site where I have to enable
> it, which is Netflix.) 

oh no! how can you sleep at night?? you might get pwned.

> Second, I don't like having sound,
> movement, or other unexpected changes in webpages.

surprising as it may seem, when you visit youtube.com, it's expected
that there will be sound and movement. 

> Usually I'm trying to read something. I don't want it
> to turn into TV or some kind of shopping mall, neon
> cacaphony. That's distracting. 

what sites do you read that turn into a neon cacophony? or are you
making up shit again?

> Third, in most
> cases if I want a video (or mp3 or PDF) at all then
> I'll want a copy.

you have to watch at least a little bit to know if it's worth
downloading.

or do you download every single video link and add them all to your
playlist?

> For instance, I sometimes download
> Youtube videos for guidance in repairing my truck.
> PDFs I download are usually for reference. So I want
> the file and there's no need to risk security or complicate
> things by loading it in the browser. I'll play it in VLC or
> read PDFs in my choice of PDF reader.

there is no security risk in watching a youtube video in a browser and
certainly not reading a pdf.

where do you come up with this shit?

>    I know you think script is not a problem. 

it isn't.

furthermore, disabling javascript means that the majority of web sites
will not work properly or at all. *that* is a problem.

>    And
> apparently you don't mind having things jump around,
> pop up, pop under, animate, slideshow, or sing on
> webpages you visit. 

you should stop visiting porn sites, which are the ones that generally
do that.

normal sites don't do any of that.

> That's your choice. It wasn't
> what I asked about. I asked about download options
> without script. I expect there must be other people
> who have similar priorities.

there aren't.

>   The Keepvid site actually works quite well, no script
> required. That's a resource I wasn't aware of. I'll have
> to try it next time I want a Vimeo video. In the past I've
> just used Download Helper FF extension, which has worked
> fine with Youtube script-free, but doesn't seem to work
> with any other sites. 

what happened to your claim of not needing specialized apps when you
can just use a browser?

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