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Re: What it would take... People to address my points with reasoning instead of rhetoric -- RP

From olcott <polcott333@gmail.com>
Newsgroups comp.theory
Subject Re: What it would take... People to address my points with reasoning instead of rhetoric -- RP
Date 2025-05-14 13:59 -0500
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On 5/14/2025 1:45 PM, Richard Heathfield wrote:
> On 14/05/2025 19:18, olcott wrote:
>> On 5/14/2025 12:58 PM, Richard Heathfield wrote:
>>> On 14/05/2025 18:46, olcott wrote:
> 
> <snip>
> 
>>>> PAY ATTENTION !!!
>>>
>>> Oh, my dear dear chap - if I thought for a moment you had anything 
>>> worth paying attention to, I'd be all ears.
>>>
>>> But you have nothing but mindless repetition, over and over and OVER. 
>>> For every article you post, I can pretty much guarantee that I've 
>>> read 90% of it before.
>>>
>>
>> I repeat the steps that prove my point until
>> someone actually pays attention to these points
>> that prove I am correct.
> 
> And how is that strategy panning out for you?
> 
> The more you repeat, the less attention you get. All you get is copy- 
> paste rebuttals of your copy-paste claims.
> 

THERE NEVER HAS BEEN ANY ACTUAL REBUTTAL OF ANY
OF MY ACTUAL CLAIMS. There has been rhetoric
that stupid people could mistake as rebuttal.

<MIT Professor Sipser agreed to ONLY these verbatim words 10/13/2022>
     If simulating halt decider H correctly simulates its
     input D until H correctly determines that its simulated D
     would never stop running unless aborted then

For example every single attempt at showing how HHH/DDD
does not meet the exact meaning of words of the above
specification ALWAYS CHANGES THE WORDS IN THIS SPECIFICATION
AND THEN REBUTS THOSE CHANGED WORDS.

This may get some people condemned to actual Hell.

-- 
Copyright 2025 Olcott "Talent hits a target no one else can hit; Genius
hits a target no one else can see." Arthur Schopenhauer

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What it would take... Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2025-05-10 02:11 +0100
  Re: What it would take... Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2025-05-09 22:18 -0400
    Re: What it would take... Mr Flibble <flibble@red-dwarf.jmc.corp> - 2025-05-10 04:04 +0000
      Re: What it would take... Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2025-05-10 08:50 -0400
        Re: What it would take... Mr Flibble <flibble@red-dwarf.jmc.corp> - 2025-05-10 14:24 +0000
          Re: What it would take... Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2025-05-10 14:44 -0400
            Re: What it would take... Mr Flibble <flibble@red-dwarf.jmc.corp> - 2025-05-10 20:05 +0000
    Re: What it would take... olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2025-05-10 10:07 -0500
      Re: What it would take... "Fred. Zwarts" <F.Zwarts@HetNet.nl> - 2025-05-10 17:25 +0200
      Re: What it would take... wij <wyniijj5@gmail.com> - 2025-05-10 23:35 +0800
        Re: What it would take... olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2025-05-10 10:46 -0500
          Re: What it would take... wij <wyniijj5@gmail.com> - 2025-05-11 00:18 +0800
            Re: What it would take... olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2025-05-10 11:37 -0500
              Re: What it would take... Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2025-05-10 15:02 -0400
            Re: What it would take... Mikko <mikko.levanto@iki.fi> - 2025-05-11 12:37 +0300
      Re: What it would take... Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2025-05-10 15:01 -0400
  Re: What it would take... Ben Bacarisse <ben@bsb.me.uk> - 2025-05-12 18:21 +0100
    Re: What it would take... Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2025-05-12 19:38 +0100
      Re: What it would take... Ben Bacarisse <ben@bsb.me.uk> - 2025-05-13 00:58 +0100
        Re: What it would take... TO GET MY REVIEWERS TO PAY COMPLETE ATTENTION? olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2025-05-12 19:16 -0500
          Re: What it would take... TO GET MY REVIEWERS TO PAY COMPLETE ATTENTION? dbush <dbush.mobile@gmail.com> - 2025-05-12 20:25 -0400
          Re: What it would take... TO GET MY REVIEWERS TO PAY COMPLETE ATTENTION? Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2025-05-12 22:27 -0400
          Re: What it would take... TO GET MY REVIEWERS TO PAY COMPLETE ATTENTION? Mikko <mikko.levanto@iki.fi> - 2025-05-13 12:39 +0300
        Re: What it would take... Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2025-05-13 03:26 +0100
          How the requirements that Professor Sipser agreed to are exactly met olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2025-05-12 21:48 -0500
            Re: How the requirements that Professor Sipser agreed to are exactly met Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2025-05-13 04:14 +0100
              Re: How the requirements that Professor Sipser agreed to are exactly met olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2025-05-12 22:31 -0500
                Re: How the requirements that Professor Sipser agreed to are exactly met dbush <dbush.mobile@gmail.com> - 2025-05-12 23:36 -0400
                Re: How the requirements that Professor Sipser agreed to are exactly met Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2025-05-13 04:39 +0100
                Re: How the requirements that Professor Sipser agreed to are exactly met Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2025-05-13 00:14 -0400
                Re: How the requirements that Professor Sipser agreed to are exactly met olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2025-05-12 23:38 -0500
                Re: How the requirements that Professor Sipser agreed to are exactly met Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2025-05-13 07:44 -0400
                Re: How the requirements that Professor Sipser agreed to are exactly met Mikko <mikko.levanto@iki.fi> - 2025-05-13 12:44 +0300
            Re: How the requirements that Professor Sipser agreed to are exactly met Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2025-05-13 00:11 -0400
              Re: How the requirements that Professor Sipser agreed to are exactly met olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2025-05-12 23:41 -0500
                Re: How the requirements that Professor Sipser agreed to are exactly met Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2025-05-13 07:46 -0400
                Re: How the requirements that Professor Sipser agreed to are exactly met olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2025-05-13 19:47 -0500
                Re: How the requirements that Professor Sipser agreed to are exactly met Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2025-05-13 21:05 -0400
            Re: How the requirements that Professor Sipser agreed to are exactly met "Fred. Zwarts" <F.Zwarts@HetNet.nl> - 2025-05-13 13:56 +0200
        Re: What it would take... Mike Terry <news.dead.person.stones@darjeeling.plus.com> - 2025-05-13 04:23 +0100
          Re: What it would take... Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2025-05-13 04:37 +0100
          Re: What it would take... olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2025-05-12 22:38 -0500
            Re: What it would take... Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2025-05-13 04:41 +0100
              Re: What it would take... olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2025-05-12 22:44 -0500
                Re: What it would take... Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2025-05-13 00:17 -0400
              Re: What it would take... olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2025-05-12 23:14 -0500
                Re: What it would take... Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2025-05-13 00:34 -0400
            Re: What it would take... Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2025-05-13 00:16 -0400
            Re: What it would take... Mikko <mikko.levanto@iki.fi> - 2025-05-13 12:49 +0300
          Re: What it would take... André G. Isaak <agisaak@gm.invalid> - 2025-05-12 22:41 -0600
            Re: What it would take... olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2025-05-13 00:06 -0500
              Re: What it would take... "Fred. Zwarts" <F.Zwarts@HetNet.nl> - 2025-05-13 13:54 +0200
                Re: What it would take... Mike Terry <news.dead.person.stones@darjeeling.plus.com> - 2025-05-13 16:47 +0100
                Re: What it would take... People to address my points with reasoning instead of rhetoric olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2025-05-13 11:01 -0500
                Re: What it would take... People to address my points with reasoning instead of rhetoric dbush <dbush.mobile@gmail.com> - 2025-05-13 12:21 -0400
                Re: What it would take... People to address my points with reasoning instead of rhetoric olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2025-05-13 11:56 -0500
                Re: What it would take... People to address my points with reasoning instead of rhetoric dbush <dbush.mobile@gmail.com> - 2025-05-13 13:09 -0400
                Re: What it would take... People to address my points with reasoning instead of rhetoric -- RP olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2025-05-13 16:09 -0500
                Re: What it would take... People to address my points with reasoning instead of rhetoric -- RP dbush <dbush.mobile@gmail.com> - 2025-05-13 21:03 -0400
                Re: What it would take... People to address my points with reasoning instead of rhetoric -- RP olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2025-05-13 20:16 -0500
                Re: What it would take... People to address my points with reasoning instead of rhetoric -- RP dbush <dbush.mobile@gmail.com> - 2025-05-13 21:26 -0400
                Re: What it would take... People to address my points with reasoning instead of rhetoric -- RP olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2025-05-13 20:35 -0500
                Re: What it would take... People to address my points with reasoning instead of rhetoric -- RP dbush <dbush.mobile@gmail.com> - 2025-05-13 21:38 -0400
                Re: What it would take... People to address my points with reasoning instead of rhetoric -- RP olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2025-05-13 20:52 -0500
                Re: What it would take... People to address my points with reasoning instead of rhetoric -- RP dbush <dbush.mobile@gmail.com> - 2025-05-13 21:56 -0400
                Re: What it would take... People to address my points with reasoning instead of rhetoric -- RP olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2025-05-13 21:41 -0500
                Re: What it would take... People to address my points with reasoning instead of rhetoric -- RP dbush <dbush.mobile@gmail.com> - 2025-05-13 22:44 -0400
                Re: What it would take... People to address my points with reasoning instead of rhetoric -- RP olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2025-05-13 22:06 -0500
                Re: What it would take... People to address my points with reasoning instead of rhetoric -- RP dbush <dbush.mobile@gmail.com> - 2025-05-13 23:28 -0400
                Re: What it would take... People to address my points with reasoning instead of rhetoric -- RP olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2025-05-13 22:38 -0500
                Re: What it would take... People to address my points with reasoning instead of rhetoric -- RP dbush <dbush.mobile@gmail.com> - 2025-05-13 23:48 -0400
                Re: What it would take... People to address my points with reasoning instead of rhetoric -- RP olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2025-05-13 23:35 -0500
                Re: What it would take... People to address my points with reasoning instead of rhetoric -- RP "Fred. Zwarts" <F.Zwarts@HetNet.nl> - 2025-05-14 13:02 +0200
                Re: What it would take... People to address my points with reasoning instead of rhetoric -- RP olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2025-05-14 10:52 -0500
                Re: What it would take... People to address my points with reasoning instead of rhetoric -- RP dbush <dbush.mobile@gmail.com> - 2025-05-14 16:54 -0400
                Re: What it would take... People to address my points with reasoning instead of rhetoric -- RP dbush <dbush.mobile@gmail.com> - 2025-05-14 08:32 -0400
                Re: What it would take... People to address my points with reasoning instead of rhetoric -- RP Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2025-05-14 05:43 +0100
                Re: What it would take... People to address my points with reasoning instead of rhetoric -- RP olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2025-05-13 23:54 -0500
                Re: What it would take... People to address my points with reasoning instead of rhetoric -- RP Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2025-05-14 06:02 +0100
                Re: What it would take... People to address my points with reasoning instead of rhetoric -- RP olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2025-05-14 00:09 -0500
                Re: What it would take... People to address my points with reasoning instead of rhetoric -- RP Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2025-05-14 06:20 +0100
                Re: What it would take... People to address my points with reasoning instead of rhetoric -- RP olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2025-05-14 11:04 -0500
                Re: What it would take... People to address my points with reasoning instead of rhetoric -- RP Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2025-05-14 17:16 +0100
                Re: What it would take... People to address my points with reasoning instead of rhetoric -- RP olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2025-05-14 11:43 -0500
                Re: What it would take... People to address my points with reasoning instead of rhetoric -- RP Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2025-05-14 18:15 +0100
                Re: What it would take... People to address my points with reasoning instead of rhetoric -- RP olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2025-05-14 12:22 -0500
                Re: What it would take... People to address my points with reasoning instead of rhetoric -- RP Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2025-05-14 18:41 +0100
                Re: What it would take... People to address my points with reasoning instead of rhetoric -- RP olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2025-05-14 12:46 -0500
                Re: What it would take... People to address my points with reasoning instead of rhetoric -- RP Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2025-05-14 18:58 +0100
                Re: What it would take... People to address my points with reasoning instead of rhetoric -- RP olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2025-05-14 13:18 -0500
                Re: What it would take... People to address my points with reasoning instead of rhetoric -- RP Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2025-05-14 19:45 +0100
                Re: What it would take... People to address my points with reasoning instead of rhetoric -- RP olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2025-05-14 13:59 -0500
                Re: What it would take... People to address my points with reasoning instead of rhetoric -- RP dbush <dbush.mobile@gmail.com> - 2025-05-14 17:14 -0400
                Re: What it would take... People to address my points with reasoning instead of rhetoric -- RP olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2025-05-14 16:25 -0500
                Re: What it would take... People to address my points with reasoning instead of rhetoric -- RP "Fred. Zwarts" <F.Zwarts@HetNet.nl> - 2025-05-15 13:22 +0200
                Re: What it would take... People to address my points with reasoning instead of rhetoric -- RP olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2025-05-15 23:38 -0500
                Re: What it would take... People to address my points with reasoning instead of rhetoric -- RP dbush <dbush.mobile@gmail.com> - 2025-05-14 16:58 -0400
                Re: What it would take... People to address my points with reasoning instead of rhetoric -- RP joes <noreply@example.org> - 2025-05-16 13:25 +0000
                Re: What it would take... People to address my points with reasoning instead of rhetoric -- RP olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2025-05-16 09:00 -0500
                Re: What it would take... People to address my points with reasoning instead of rhetoric -- RP Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2025-05-16 10:09 -0400
                Re: What it would take... People to address my points with reasoning instead of rhetoric -- RP olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2025-05-16 10:19 -0500
                Re: What it would take... People to address my points with reasoning instead of rhetoric -- RP Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2025-05-16 11:57 -0400
                Re: What it would take... People to address my points with reasoning instead of rhetoric -- RP joes <noreply@example.org> - 2025-05-14 18:25 +0000
                Re: What it would take... People to address my points with reasoning instead of rhetoric -- RP joes <noreply@example.org> - 2025-05-14 18:30 +0000
                Re: What it would take... People to address my points with reasoning instead of rhetoric -- RP Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2025-05-14 07:32 -0400
                Re: What it would take... People to address my points with reasoning instead of rhetoric -- RP Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2025-05-13 21:14 -0400
                Re: What it would take... People to address my points with reasoning instead of rhetoric Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2025-05-13 21:10 -0400
                Re: What it would take... People to address my points with reasoning instead of rhetoric Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2025-05-13 18:06 +0100
                Re: What it would take... People to address my points with reasoning instead of rhetoric dbush <dbush.mobile@gmail.com> - 2025-05-13 13:12 -0400
                Re: What it would take... People to address my points with reasoning instead of rhetoric Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2025-05-13 19:00 +0100
                Re: What it would take... People to address my points with reasoning instead of rhetoric Mike Terry <news.dead.person.stones@darjeeling.plus.com> - 2025-05-13 19:20 +0100
                Re: What it would take... People to address my points with reasoning instead of rhetoric wij <wyniijj5@gmail.com> - 2025-05-14 02:49 +0800
                Re: What it would take... People to address my points with reasoning instead of rhetoric olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2025-05-13 15:52 -0500
                Re: What it would take... People to address my points with reasoning instead of rhetoric "Fred. Zwarts" <F.Zwarts@HetNet.nl> - 2025-05-14 12:59 +0200
                Re: What it would take... People to address my points with reasoning instead of rhetoric olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2025-05-14 10:58 -0500
                Re: What it would take... People to address my points with reasoning instead of rhetoric dbush <dbush.mobile@gmail.com> - 2025-05-14 16:54 -0400
                Re: What it would take... People to address my points with reasoning instead of rhetoric Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2025-05-14 07:35 -0400
                Re: What it would take... People to address my points with reasoning instead of rhetoric olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2025-05-13 16:16 -0500
                Re: What it would take... People to address my points with reasoning instead of rhetoric Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2025-05-13 22:28 +0100
                Re: What it would take... People to address my points with reasoning instead of rhetoric olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2025-05-13 16:49 -0500
                Re: What it would take... People to address my points with reasoning instead of rhetoric "Fred. Zwarts" <F.Zwarts@HetNet.nl> - 2025-05-14 12:56 +0200
                Re: What it would take... People to address my points with reasoning instead of rhetoric dbush <dbush.mobile@gmail.com> - 2025-05-13 21:05 -0400
                Re: What it would take... People to address my points with reasoning instead of rhetoric Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2025-05-14 07:41 -0400
                Re: What it would take... People to address my points with reasoning instead of rhetoric olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2025-05-14 10:32 -0500
                Re: What it would take... People to address my points with reasoning instead of rhetoric Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2025-05-14 16:44 +0100
                Re: What it would take... People to address my points with reasoning instead of rhetoric olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2025-05-14 12:17 -0500
                Re: What it would take... People to address my points with reasoning instead of rhetoric Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2025-05-14 18:32 +0100
                Re: What it would take... People to address my points with reasoning instead of rhetoric olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2025-05-14 12:35 -0500
                Re: What it would take... People to address my points with reasoning instead of rhetoric olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2025-05-13 11:22 -0500
                Re: What it would take... People to address my points with reasoning instead of rhetoric "Fred. Zwarts" <F.Zwarts@HetNet.nl> - 2025-05-14 12:53 +0200
                Re: What it would take... People to address my points with reasoning instead of rhetoric Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2025-05-14 07:43 -0400
                Re: What it would take... People to address my points with reasoning instead of rhetoric olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2025-05-14 10:26 -0500
                Re: What it would take... People to address my points with reasoning instead of rhetoric Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2025-05-14 23:23 -0400
                Re: What it would take... People to address my points with reasoning instead of rhetoric olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2025-05-14 23:14 -0500
                Re: What it would take... People to address my points with reasoning instead of rhetoric Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2025-05-15 07:19 -0400
                Re: What it would take... People to address my points with reasoning instead of rhetoric Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2025-05-13 18:41 -0400
      Re: What it would take... Mike Terry <news.dead.person.stones@darjeeling.plus.com> - 2025-05-13 04:05 +0100
        Re: What it would take... Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2025-05-13 04:23 +0100
    Re: What it would take... Andy Walker <anw@cuboid.co.uk> - 2025-05-12 23:38 +0100
      How the requirements that Professor Sipser agreed to are exactly met olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2025-05-12 17:47 -0500
      Re: What it would take... wij <wyniijj5@gmail.com> - 2025-05-13 07:05 +0800
      Re: What it would take... Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2025-05-13 04:09 +0100
      Re: What it would take... Mr Flibble <flibble@red-dwarf.jmc.corp> - 2025-05-13 18:28 +0000
        Re: What it would take... Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2025-05-13 19:37 +0100
          Re: What it would take... Mr Flibble <flibble@red-dwarf.jmc.corp> - 2025-05-13 18:40 +0000
            Re: What it would take... Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2025-05-13 19:47 +0100
              Re: What it would take... Mr Flibble <flibble@red-dwarf.jmc.corp> - 2025-05-13 18:53 +0000
                Re: What it would take... Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2025-05-13 20:01 +0100
                Re: What it would take... Mr Flibble <flibble@red-dwarf.jmc.corp> - 2025-05-13 19:07 +0000
        Re: What it would take... Andy Walker <anw@cuboid.co.uk> - 2025-05-13 23:59 +0100
  Re: What it would take... olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2025-05-12 12:29 -0500
    Re: What it would take... "Fred. Zwarts" <F.Zwarts@HetNet.nl> - 2025-05-13 13:48 +0200

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