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Re: Facetime on Android

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In article <o4rrp4$rb2$1@dont-email.me>, Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com>
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> > the point is that they originally planned to do it and actions of a
> > third party caused them to change.
> > 
> >> What you've shown is that Apple was sued. Any evidence that Apple 'wanted'
> >> to OSS FaceTime? It would have been an odd departure for them. Yes, they
> >> contribute to existing OSS projects like Darwin and webkit, but they've
> >> never afaik voluntarily open sourced their own stuff.
> > 
> > <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JOxf9tEXEKQ>
> >   "And we're going to take it all the way. We're going to the standards
> >   bodies, starting tomorrow, and we're going to make FaceTime an open
> >   industry standard."
> 
> An open standard is not the same as open source. For example, Adobe acrobat
> is still proprietary yet pdfs are open.
> 
> It's just another word for interoperability. Why they didn't follow through
> can't have anything to do with being sued. No-one gets sued for creating an
> open standard.

it has everything to with being sued when part of the proposed standard
supposedly infringes on someone else's ip.

> >>> your issue is not with apple, but the scumbag patent trolls in east
> >>> texas and the corrupt judges there who consistently find in favour of
> >>> said trolls. that's why nearly every patent troll lawsuit is filed
> >>> there, no matter who the target of the lawsuit happens to be.
> >> 
> >> The sooner the U.S. patent office is closed, the better. US patents are
> >> just bargaining chips for the wealthiest orgs. They offer very little
> >> protection for smaller parties.
> > 
> > there's no reason to close the entire patent office just because there
> > are some problems that need to be fixed, namely patent trolls who
> > *abuse* the system by buying patents and suing people. they don't make
> > products or use the patents for anything, other than to sue.
> 
> If the USPO did anything more than just accept the money for each
> application that would be a good start. They are complicit with the
> problem.

there are a number of issues. shutting it down is definitely not the
solution because the patent system is vital to motivate people to
invent new stuff. the *abuse* needs to be stopped. proper use is a good
thing.

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  Re: Facetime on Android Joerg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.ch> - 2016-12-31 09:25 +0100
    Re: Facetime on Android Stijn De Jong <stijndekoning@nlnet.nl> - 2016-12-31 20:17 +0100
  Re: Facetime on Android tlvp <mPiOsUcB.EtLlLvEp@att.net> - 2016-12-31 04:07 -0500
    Re: Facetime on Android Stijn De Jong <stijndekoning@nlnet.nl> - 2016-12-31 20:17 +0100
  Re: Facetime on Android Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2017-01-06 08:36 +0000
    Re: Facetime on Android nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-01-06 08:58 -0500
      Re: Facetime on Android Piet <www.godfatherof.nl/@opt-in.invalid> - 2017-01-06 16:20 +0100
        Re: Facetime on Android nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-01-06 11:03 -0500
          Re: Facetime on Android Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2017-01-06 19:48 +0000
            Re: Facetime on Android nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-01-06 15:16 -0500
              Re: Facetime on Android Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2017-01-06 20:40 +0000
                Re: Facetime on Android nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-01-06 15:48 -0500
                Re: Facetime on Android Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2017-01-07 11:08 +0000
                Re: Facetime on Android nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-01-07 13:06 -0500
                Re: Facetime on Android Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2017-01-07 19:54 +0000
                Re: Facetime on Android nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-01-07 15:11 -0500
                Re: Facetime on Android Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2017-01-07 22:57 +0000
                Re: Facetime on Android nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-01-07 18:23 -0500
                Re: Facetime on Android Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2017-01-07 19:54 +0000
                Re: Facetime on Android nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-01-07 15:11 -0500
                Re: Facetime on Android Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2017-01-07 21:29 +0000
                Re: Facetime on Android nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-01-07 18:23 -0500
                Re: Facetime on Android tlvp <mPiOsUcB.EtLlLvEp@att.net> - 2017-01-08 00:48 -0500
                Re: Facetime on Android Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2017-01-08 17:00 +0000
                Re: Facetime on Android nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-01-10 21:41 -0500

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