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Re: Facetime on Android

From Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com>
Newsgroups comp.mobile.android
Subject Re: Facetime on Android
Date 2017-01-07 22:57 +0000
Organization A noiseless patient Spider
Message-ID <o4rrp4$rb2$1@dont-email.me> (permalink)
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nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote:
> In article <o4qi7a$60p$1@dont-email.me>, Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> 
>>> 
>>> facetime is only closed due to losing a patent troll lawsuit. apple
>>> *wanted* it to be open source.
>> 
>> I don't see how those two are linked? Apple can be sued regardless of the
>> licensing terms of the code.
> 
> apple had to change it and could possibly be using something that
> prevents them from doing what they originally planned. or maybe they
> just said fuck it, it's not worth the hassles. who knows.

Waffle.

> the point is that they originally planned to do it and actions of a
> third party caused them to change.
> 
>> What you've shown is that Apple was sued. Any evidence that Apple 'wanted'
>> to OSS FaceTime? It would have been an odd departure for them. Yes, they
>> contribute to existing OSS projects like Darwin and webkit, but they've
>> never afaik voluntarily open sourced their own stuff.
> 
> <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JOxf9tEXEKQ>
>   "And we're going to take it all the way. We're going to the standards
>   bodies, starting tomorrow, and we're going to make FaceTime an open
>   industry standard."

An open standard is not the same as open source. For example, Adobe acrobat
is still proprietary yet pdfs are open.

It's just another word for interoperability. Why they didn't follow through
can't have anything to do with being sued. No-one gets sued for creating an
open standard.

>>> your issue is not with apple, but the scumbag patent trolls in east
>>> texas and the corrupt judges there who consistently find in favour of
>>> said trolls. that's why nearly every patent troll lawsuit is filed
>>> there, no matter who the target of the lawsuit happens to be.
>> 
>> The sooner the U.S. patent office is closed, the better. US patents are
>> just bargaining chips for the wealthiest orgs. They offer very little
>> protection for smaller parties.
> 
> there's no reason to close the entire patent office just because there
> are some problems that need to be fixed, namely patent trolls who
> *abuse* the system by buying patents and suing people. they don't make
> products or use the patents for anything, other than to sue.

If the USPO did anything more than just accept the money for each
application that would be a good start. They are complicit with the
problem.

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  Re: Facetime on Android Joerg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.ch> - 2016-12-31 09:25 +0100
    Re: Facetime on Android Stijn De Jong <stijndekoning@nlnet.nl> - 2016-12-31 20:17 +0100
  Re: Facetime on Android tlvp <mPiOsUcB.EtLlLvEp@att.net> - 2016-12-31 04:07 -0500
    Re: Facetime on Android Stijn De Jong <stijndekoning@nlnet.nl> - 2016-12-31 20:17 +0100
  Re: Facetime on Android Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2017-01-06 08:36 +0000
    Re: Facetime on Android nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-01-06 08:58 -0500
      Re: Facetime on Android Piet <www.godfatherof.nl/@opt-in.invalid> - 2017-01-06 16:20 +0100
        Re: Facetime on Android nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-01-06 11:03 -0500
          Re: Facetime on Android Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2017-01-06 19:48 +0000
            Re: Facetime on Android nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-01-06 15:16 -0500
              Re: Facetime on Android Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2017-01-06 20:40 +0000
                Re: Facetime on Android nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-01-06 15:48 -0500
                Re: Facetime on Android Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2017-01-07 11:08 +0000
                Re: Facetime on Android nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-01-07 13:06 -0500
                Re: Facetime on Android Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2017-01-07 19:54 +0000
                Re: Facetime on Android nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-01-07 15:11 -0500
                Re: Facetime on Android Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2017-01-07 22:57 +0000
                Re: Facetime on Android nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-01-07 18:23 -0500
                Re: Facetime on Android Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2017-01-07 19:54 +0000
                Re: Facetime on Android nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-01-07 15:11 -0500
                Re: Facetime on Android Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2017-01-07 21:29 +0000
                Re: Facetime on Android nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-01-07 18:23 -0500
                Re: Facetime on Android tlvp <mPiOsUcB.EtLlLvEp@att.net> - 2017-01-08 00:48 -0500
                Re: Facetime on Android Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2017-01-08 17:00 +0000
                Re: Facetime on Android nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-01-10 21:41 -0500

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