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Re: WiFi sensitivity question for Jeff Liebermann & anyone well versed in antennas

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Newsgroups	misc.phone.mobile.iphone, sci.electronics.repair, alt.internet.wireless, comp.mobile.android
Subject	Re: WiFi sensitivity question for Jeff Liebermann & anyone well versed in antennas
Date	2016-08-01 17:04 -0400
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In article <a9etpbtc0roj7ofbmsu8b9gki8f1u9phf0@4ax.com>, Jeff
Liebermann <jeffl@cruzio.com> wrote:

> 
> >> I'll also assume that you're referring to the Dell XPS 27 Touch
> >> All-In-One Desktop:
> >> <http://www.dell.com/en-us/shop/productdetails/xps-27-2720-aio?stp=1>
> >> The screen is 2560 X 1440 or 1/4th that of the Apple display.
> >> Prices vary from $1,700 to $2,700.
> 
> >you assume wrong.
> >
> >i specifically said the dell 5k display, which has the same 5120 x 2880
> >resolution and is $2k msrp: 
>
> >><http://accessories.us.dell.com/sna/productdetail.aspx?c=us&l=en&s=bsd&cs=04
> >&sku=up275k3>
> 
> Sorry, but I thought you were comparing the price of equivalent
> computers with build in displays, not comparing an Apple all in one
> iMac, with a component system from Dell.  Your point about pricing is
> still correct, but it would be helpful if you would be more specific
> about what you're comparing.

find a 5k all in one for comparison.

the imac 5k first came out 2 years ago and there *still* isn't anything
to match, so components is all that's possible.

there are some pc all in ones but they're not 5k displays which means
there's even more of a price advantage to the mac.

> >> Of course, this has nothing to do with any alleged wi-fi range
> >> differences between Apple and Android products, which was the original
> >> topic of this discussion.
> 
> >there aren't any significant differences in normal everyday use. 
> 
> Prove it.  I supplied two very easy methods where you can test that
> assertion using commonly available software (iperf and jperf) that
> will run on most any device.  I can run the test for you if you can't
> seem to load one program on your Mac desktop or laptop, change one
> setting in your router, and load one lousy app on your tablet.
> However, I don't see why I should run it for you.  I suspect that you
> would not accept my results and conclusions as you did in my iPhone 4
> death grip test.  The problem is that you don't really know for sure
> what will happen.  Well, neither do I.  I've run the test many times,
> but never side by side comparing the range for various client devices.
> It's always been to optimize something in the router, usually for
> highest throughput, not for maximizing range.

that's not normal use.

normal use is connecting to wifi networks (public or private) and doing
normal everyday tasks, such as surfing the net, skype, checking email,
downloading new apps, etc. it's not running benchmarks and geeking out
over numbers.

i used to use my iphone 4 in a *wide* variety of places, from at home
(fairly strong signal) to airports & hotels (often weak and overcrowded
signals) and never had any problem with wifi or cellular. 

> >he's trolling.
> 
> So am I.  Sometimes trolling is useful.  I'm tired of unsubstantiated
> assertions from all sides.  Time to test the various claims.

discussion is useful, not trolling.

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WiFi sensitivity question for Jeff Liebermann & anyone well versed in antennas Aardvarks <aardvarks@a.b.c.com> - 2016-07-30 16:18 +0000
  Re: WiFi sensitivity question for Jeff Liebermann & anyone well versed in antennas Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@cruzio.com> - 2016-07-30 17:49 -0700
    Re: WiFi sensitivity question for Jeff Liebermann & anyone well versed in antennas nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-07-30 21:54 -0400
      Re: WiFi sensitivity question for Jeff Liebermann & anyone well versed in antennas Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-07-31 02:16 +0000
      Re: WiFi sensitivity question for Jeff Liebermann & anyone well versed in antennas Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@cruzio.com> - 2016-07-30 20:44 -0700
        Re: WiFi sensitivity question for Jeff Liebermann & anyone well versed in antennas nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-07-31 13:52 -0400
          Re: WiFi sensitivity question for Jeff Liebermann & anyone well versed in antennas Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-07-31 19:19 +0000
          Re: WiFi sensitivity question for Jeff Liebermann & anyone well versed in antennas Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@cruzio.com> - 2016-07-31 16:41 -0700
            Re: WiFi sensitivity question for Jeff Liebermann & anyone well versed in antennas nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-07-31 20:23 -0400
        Re: WiFi sensitivity question for Jeff Liebermann & anyone well versed in antennas Aardvarks <aardvarks@a.b.c.com> - 2016-07-31 22:26 +0000
          Re: WiFi sensitivity question for Jeff Liebermann & anyone well versed in antennas nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-07-31 18:58 -0400
            Re: WiFi sensitivity question for Jeff Liebermann & anyone well versed in antennas Aardvarks <aardvarks@a.b.c.com> - 2016-08-01 05:54 +0000
              Re: WiFi sensitivity question for Jeff Liebermann & anyone well versed in antennas nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-08-01 02:11 -0400
              Re: WiFi sensitivity question for Jeff Liebermann & anyone well versed in antennas nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-08-01 02:13 -0400
                Re: WiFi sensitivity question for Jeff Liebermann & anyone well versed in antennas Aardvarks <aardvarks@a.b.c.com> - 2016-08-01 21:44 +0000
                Re: WiFi sensitivity question for Jeff Liebermann & anyone well versed in antennas nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-08-01 17:52 -0400
                Re: WiFi sensitivity question for Jeff Liebermann & anyone well versed in antennas Aardvarks <aardvarks@a.b.c.com> - 2016-08-01 21:49 +0000
                Re: WiFi sensitivity question for Jeff Liebermann & anyone well versed in antennas nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-08-01 17:52 -0400
                Re: WiFi sensitivity question for Jeff Liebermann & anyone well versed in antennas Aardvarks <aardvarks@a.b.c.com> - 2016-08-01 22:01 +0000
                Re: WiFi sensitivity question for Jeff Liebermann & anyone well versed in antennas nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-08-01 18:47 -0400
                Re: WiFi sensitivity question for Jeff Liebermann & anyone well versed in antennas Aardvarks <aardvarks@a.b.c.com> - 2016-08-02 15:04 +0000
                Re: WiFi sensitivity question for Jeff Liebermann & anyone well versed in antennas nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-08-02 11:05 -0400
                Re: WiFi sensitivity question for Jeff Liebermann & anyone well versed in antennas Aardvarks <aardvarks@a.b.c.com> - 2016-08-02 18:19 +0000
                Re: WiFi sensitivity question for Jeff Liebermann & anyone well versed in antennas nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-08-02 15:25 -0400
                Re: WiFi sensitivity question for Jeff Liebermann & anyone well versed in antennas Aardvarks <aardvarks@a.b.c.com> - 2016-08-02 19:49 +0000
                Re: WiFi sensitivity question for Jeff Liebermann & anyone well versed in antennas nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-08-02 16:32 -0400
                Re: WiFi sensitivity question for Jeff Liebermann & anyone well versed in antennas Aardvarks <aardvarks@a.b.c.com> - 2016-08-03 01:35 +0000
                Re: WiFi sensitivity question for Jeff Liebermann & anyone well versed in antennas nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-08-02 21:43 -0400
                Re: WiFi sensitivity question for Jeff Liebermann & anyone well versed in antennas Aardvarks <aardvarks@a.b.c.com> - 2016-08-03 03:27 +0000
          Re: WiFi sensitivity question for Jeff Liebermann & anyone well versed in antennas Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-07-31 23:17 +0000
          Re: WiFi sensitivity question for Jeff Liebermann & anyone well versed in antennas Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@cruzio.com> - 2016-07-31 17:23 -0700
            Re: WiFi sensitivity question for Jeff Liebermann & anyone well versed in antennas nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-07-31 20:36 -0400
              Re: WiFi sensitivity question for Jeff Liebermann & anyone well versed in antennas Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@cruzio.com> - 2016-07-31 18:52 -0700
                Re: WiFi sensitivity question for Jeff Liebermann & anyone well versed in antennas nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-07-31 22:18 -0400
                Re: WiFi sensitivity question for Jeff Liebermann & anyone well versed in antennas Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@cruzio.com> - 2016-07-31 20:21 -0700
                Re: WiFi sensitivity question for Jeff Liebermann & anyone well versed in antennas nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-08-01 17:04 -0400
                Re: WiFi sensitivity question for Jeff Liebermann & anyone well versed in antennas Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@cruzio.com> - 2016-08-01 15:43 -0700
                Re: WiFi sensitivity question for Jeff Liebermann & anyone well versed in antennas Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2016-08-01 18:23 +1200
                Re: WiFi sensitivity question for Jeff Liebermann & anyone well versed in antennas Aardvarks <aardvarks@a.b.c.com> - 2016-08-01 21:51 +0000
    Re: WiFi sensitivity question for Jeff Liebermann & anyone well versed in antennas Aardvarks <aardvarks@a.b.c.com> - 2016-07-31 02:59 +0000
      Re: WiFi sensitivity question for Jeff Liebermann & anyone well versed in antennas Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@cruzio.com> - 2016-07-30 21:42 -0700
      Re: WiFi sensitivity question for Jeff Liebermann & anyone well versed in antennas Michael Eyd <invalid@eyd.de> - 2016-08-01 13:03 +0200
        Re: WiFi sensitivity question for Jeff Liebermann & anyone well versed in antennas Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2016-08-02 08:59 +1200
          Re: WiFi sensitivity question for Jeff Liebermann & anyone well versed in antennas Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@cruzio.com> - 2016-08-01 16:19 -0700
            Re: WiFi sensitivity question for Jeff Liebermann & anyone well versed in antennas Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2016-08-02 13:18 +1200
              Re: WiFi sensitivity question for Jeff Liebermann & anyone well versed in antennas BobbyK <bknight@Conramp.net> - 2016-08-01 21:51 -0500
                Re: WiFi sensitivity question for Jeff Liebermann & anyone well versed in antennas Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2016-08-02 18:22 +1200
        Re: WiFi sensitivity question for Jeff Liebermann & anyone well versed in antennas Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@cruzio.com> - 2016-08-01 16:02 -0700
          Re: WiFi sensitivity question for Jeff Liebermann & anyone well versed in antennas Michael Eyd <invalid@eyd.de> - 2016-08-02 09:03 +0200
            Re: WiFi sensitivity question for Jeff Liebermann & anyone well versed in antennas Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@cruzio.com> - 2016-08-02 09:40 -0700
              Re: WiFi sensitivity question for Jeff Liebermann & anyone well versed in antennas Michael Eyd <invalid@eyd.de> - 2016-08-03 10:33 +0200

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