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Re: Real Number --- Merely numbers whose digits can be infinitely long

From wij <wyniijj5@gmail.com>
Newsgroups comp.theory
Subject Re: Real Number --- Merely numbers whose digits can be infinitely long
Date 2024-05-03 08:41 +0800
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On Thu, 2024-05-02 at 23:03 +0100, Ben Bacarisse wrote:
> wij <wyniijj5@gmail.com> writes:
> 
> > On Wed, 2024-05-01 at 22:58 +0100, Ben Bacarisse wrote:
> > > wij <wyniijj5@gmail.com> writes:
> > > 
> > > > Got your idea.
> > > 
> > > It's not my idea.  It's a standard notation.
> > > 
> > 
> > There is no standard notation for formal grammar. I adopt the idea using either
> > ',' or '|'. <fixed_point_number> is simple, average readers know what it should be.
> > 
> > 
> > > > I'll try use '|' exclusively. Thanks for the suggestions:
> > > > 
> > > >      <fixed_point_number>::= [-] <wnum> [ . <frac> ]  // excluding "-0" case
> > > >      <wnum>::= 0
> > > >      <wnum>::= <nzd> { 0 | <nzd> }
> > > >      <frac>::= { 0 | <nzd> } <nzd>
> > > >      <nzd> ::= 1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | 5 | 6 | 7 | 8 | 9 // 'digit' varys depending on n-ary
> > > > 
> > > >     Ex: 78, -12.345, 3.1414159
> > > 
> > > So what's the point of defining these strings that represent a subset of
> > > the rationals?
> > > 
> > 
> > <fixed_point_number> is a super set of rationals.
> 
> Give an example <fixed_point_number> that is not rational.
> 
> If you can it should be one of the examples you give since you are
> obviously using the EBNF notation is a new, non-standard way.  Giving
> three examples that at conventional rational numbers is a huge missed
> opportunity to show what you really mean.
> 

If you don't like it, you can read it as anything.
Read it as a joke and keep believing 0.333...∉ [0,1/3) and
 1/3 ≠ 0.333... + nonzero_remainder

I mean strongly hold that believe, don't change in your life-time.

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Real Number --- Merely numbers whose digits can be infinitely long wij <wyniijj5@gmail.com> - 2024-04-29 04:42 +0800
  Re: Real Number --- Merely numbers whose digits can be infinitely long Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2024-04-29 11:57 +0100
    Re: Real Number --- Merely numbers whose digits can be infinitely long Andy Walker <anw@cuboid.co.uk> - 2024-04-29 13:35 +0100
    Re: Real Number --- Merely numbers whose digits can be infinitely long wij <wyniijj5@gmail.com> - 2024-04-30 11:03 +0800
      Re: Real Number --- Merely numbers whose digits can be infinitely long Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2024-04-29 22:02 -0700
      Re: Real Number --- Merely numbers whose digits can be infinitely long Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2024-05-01 22:58 +0100
        Re: Real Number --- Merely numbers whose digits can be infinitely long wij <wyniijj5@gmail.com> - 2024-05-02 09:33 +0800
          Re: Real Number --- Merely numbers whose digits can be infinitely long Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2024-05-01 18:38 -0700
            Re: Real Number --- Merely numbers whose digits can be infinitely long wij <wyniijj5@gmail.com> - 2024-05-02 10:03 +0800
              Re: Real Number --- Merely numbers whose digits can be infinitely long Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2024-05-01 20:38 -0700
                Re: Real Number --- Merely numbers whose digits can be infinitely long Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2024-05-01 20:46 -0700
                Re: Real Number --- Merely numbers whose digits can be infinitely long Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2024-05-01 21:52 -0700
                Re: Real Number --- Merely numbers whose digits can be infinitely long Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2024-05-01 22:40 -0700
                Re: Real Number --- Merely numbers whose digits can be infinitely long Andy Walker <anw@cuboid.co.uk> - 2024-05-02 09:36 +0100
                Re: Real Number --- Merely numbers whose digits can be infinitely long Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2024-05-02 13:22 -0700
                Re: Real Number --- Merely numbers whose digits can be infinitely long wij <wyniijj5@gmail.com> - 2024-05-02 12:46 +0800
                Re: Real Number --- Merely numbers whose digits can be infinitely long Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2024-05-02 13:51 -0700
                Re: Real Number --- Merely numbers whose digits can be infinitely long wij <wyniijj5@gmail.com> - 2024-05-03 08:43 +0800
                Re: Real Number --- Merely numbers whose digits can be infinitely long Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2024-05-02 18:02 -0700
                Re: Real Number --- Merely numbers whose digits can be infinitely long wij <wyniijj5@gmail.com> - 2024-05-03 09:44 +0800
                Re: Real Number --- Merely numbers whose digits can be infinitely long Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2024-05-02 19:58 -0700
                Re: Real Number --- Merely numbers whose digits can be infinitely long Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2024-05-02 20:23 -0700
                Re: Real Number --- Merely numbers whose digits can be infinitely long Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2024-05-04 10:36 -0700
          Re: Real Number --- Merely numbers whose digits can be infinitely long Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2024-05-02 23:03 +0100
            Re: Real Number --- Merely numbers whose digits can be infinitely long wij <wyniijj5@gmail.com> - 2024-05-03 08:41 +0800
              Re: Real Number --- Merely numbers whose digits can be infinitely long Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2024-05-04 00:02 +0100
                Re: Real Number --- Merely numbers whose digits can be infinitely long wij <wyniijj5@gmail.com> - 2024-05-04 08:28 +0800
                Re: Real Number --- Merely numbers whose digits can be infinitely long Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2024-05-05 10:14 +0100

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