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Re: Real Number --- Merely numbers whose digits can be infinitely long

From Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk>
Newsgroups comp.theory
Subject Re: Real Number --- Merely numbers whose digits can be infinitely long
Date 2024-05-02 23:03 +0100
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wij <wyniijj5@gmail.com> writes:

> On Wed, 2024-05-01 at 22:58 +0100, Ben Bacarisse wrote:
>> wij <wyniijj5@gmail.com> writes:
>> 
>> > Got your idea.
>> 
>> It's not my idea.  It's a standard notation.
>> 
>
> There is no standard notation for formal grammar. I adopt the idea using either
> ',' or '|'. <fixed_point_number> is simple, average readers know what it should be.
>
>
>> > I'll try use '|' exclusively. Thanks for the suggestions:
>> > 
>> >      <fixed_point_number>::= [-] <wnum> [ . <frac> ]  // excluding "-0" case
>> >      <wnum>::= 0
>> >      <wnum>::= <nzd> { 0 | <nzd> }
>> >      <frac>::= { 0 | <nzd> } <nzd>
>> >      <nzd> ::= 1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | 5 | 6 | 7 | 8 | 9 // 'digit' varys depending on n-ary
>> > 
>> >     Ex: 78, -12.345, 3.1414159
>> 
>> So what's the point of defining these strings that represent a subset of
>> the rationals?
>> 
>
> <fixed_point_number> is a super set of rationals.

Give an example <fixed_point_number> that is not rational.

If you can it should be one of the examples you give since you are
obviously using the EBNF notation is a new, non-standard way.  Giving
three examples that at conventional rational numbers is a huge missed
opportunity to show what you really mean.

-- 
Ben.

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Real Number --- Merely numbers whose digits can be infinitely long wij <wyniijj5@gmail.com> - 2024-04-29 04:42 +0800
  Re: Real Number --- Merely numbers whose digits can be infinitely long Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2024-04-29 11:57 +0100
    Re: Real Number --- Merely numbers whose digits can be infinitely long Andy Walker <anw@cuboid.co.uk> - 2024-04-29 13:35 +0100
    Re: Real Number --- Merely numbers whose digits can be infinitely long wij <wyniijj5@gmail.com> - 2024-04-30 11:03 +0800
      Re: Real Number --- Merely numbers whose digits can be infinitely long Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2024-04-29 22:02 -0700
      Re: Real Number --- Merely numbers whose digits can be infinitely long Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2024-05-01 22:58 +0100
        Re: Real Number --- Merely numbers whose digits can be infinitely long wij <wyniijj5@gmail.com> - 2024-05-02 09:33 +0800
          Re: Real Number --- Merely numbers whose digits can be infinitely long Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2024-05-01 18:38 -0700
            Re: Real Number --- Merely numbers whose digits can be infinitely long wij <wyniijj5@gmail.com> - 2024-05-02 10:03 +0800
              Re: Real Number --- Merely numbers whose digits can be infinitely long Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2024-05-01 20:38 -0700
                Re: Real Number --- Merely numbers whose digits can be infinitely long Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2024-05-01 20:46 -0700
                Re: Real Number --- Merely numbers whose digits can be infinitely long Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2024-05-01 21:52 -0700
                Re: Real Number --- Merely numbers whose digits can be infinitely long Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2024-05-01 22:40 -0700
                Re: Real Number --- Merely numbers whose digits can be infinitely long Andy Walker <anw@cuboid.co.uk> - 2024-05-02 09:36 +0100
                Re: Real Number --- Merely numbers whose digits can be infinitely long Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2024-05-02 13:22 -0700
                Re: Real Number --- Merely numbers whose digits can be infinitely long wij <wyniijj5@gmail.com> - 2024-05-02 12:46 +0800
                Re: Real Number --- Merely numbers whose digits can be infinitely long Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2024-05-02 13:51 -0700
                Re: Real Number --- Merely numbers whose digits can be infinitely long wij <wyniijj5@gmail.com> - 2024-05-03 08:43 +0800
                Re: Real Number --- Merely numbers whose digits can be infinitely long Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2024-05-02 18:02 -0700
                Re: Real Number --- Merely numbers whose digits can be infinitely long wij <wyniijj5@gmail.com> - 2024-05-03 09:44 +0800
                Re: Real Number --- Merely numbers whose digits can be infinitely long Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2024-05-02 19:58 -0700
                Re: Real Number --- Merely numbers whose digits can be infinitely long Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2024-05-02 20:23 -0700
                Re: Real Number --- Merely numbers whose digits can be infinitely long Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2024-05-04 10:36 -0700
          Re: Real Number --- Merely numbers whose digits can be infinitely long Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2024-05-02 23:03 +0100
            Re: Real Number --- Merely numbers whose digits can be infinitely long wij <wyniijj5@gmail.com> - 2024-05-03 08:41 +0800
              Re: Real Number --- Merely numbers whose digits can be infinitely long Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2024-05-04 00:02 +0100
                Re: Real Number --- Merely numbers whose digits can be infinitely long wij <wyniijj5@gmail.com> - 2024-05-04 08:28 +0800
                Re: Real Number --- Merely numbers whose digits can be infinitely long Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2024-05-05 10:14 +0100

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