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  Broadband Over the Mobile Network "Jeff Gaines" <jgnewsid@outlook.com> - 2026-05-21 09:15 +0000
    Re: Broadband Over the Mobile Network Theo <theom+news@chiark.greenend.org.uk> - 2026-05-21 10:41 +0100
      Re: Broadband Over the Mobile Network "Jeff Gaines" <jgnewsid@outlook.com> - 2026-05-21 10:05 +0000
        Re: Broadband Over the Mobile Network Tweed <usenet.tweed@gmail.com> - 2026-05-21 10:16 +0000
        Re: Broadband Over the Mobile Network Roger Mills <mills37.fslife@gmail.com> - 2026-05-21 15:07 +0100
      Re: Broadband Over the Mobile Network Mark Undrill <spam@invalid.invalid> - 2026-05-21 11:17 +0100
    Re: Broadband Over the Mobile Network Graham J <nobody@nowhere.co.uk> - 2026-05-21 12:34 +0100
      Re: Broadband Over the Mobile Network Theo <theom+news@chiark.greenend.org.uk> - 2026-05-21 14:11 +0100
        Re: Broadband Over the Mobile Network "Jeff Gaines" <jgnewsid@outlook.com> - 2026-05-21 13:19 +0000
          Re: Broadband Over the Mobile Network Theo <theom+news@chiark.greenend.org.uk> - 2026-05-21 15:06 +0100
            Re: Broadband Over the Mobile Network Graham J <nobody@nowhere.co.uk> - 2026-05-21 22:09 +0100
              Re: Broadband Over the Mobile Network Theo <theom+news@chiark.greenend.org.uk> - 2026-05-22 00:01 +0100
                Re: Broadband Over the Mobile Network Tweed <usenet.tweed@gmail.com> - 2026-05-22 05:43 +0000
                Re: Broadband Over the Mobile Network Graham J <nobody@nowhere.co.uk> - 2026-05-22 08:22 +0100
                  Re: Broadband Over the Mobile Network Tweed <usenet.tweed@gmail.com> - 2026-05-22 07:36 +0000
                    Re: Broadband Over the Mobile Network Graham J <nobody@nowhere.co.uk> - 2026-05-22 09:15 +0100
                    Re: Broadband Over the Mobile Network "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-05-22 21:47 +0100
                      Re: Broadband Over the Mobile Network Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2026-05-23 10:09 +0000
                        Re: Broadband Over the Mobile Network Tweed <usenet.tweed@gmail.com> - 2026-05-23 10:32 +0000
                          Re: Broadband Over the Mobile Network "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-05-23 20:48 +0100
                            Re: Broadband Over the Mobile Network Tweed <usenet.tweed@gmail.com> - 2026-05-24 06:11 +0000
                              Re: Broadband Over the Mobile Network "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-05-24 11:27 +0100
                                Re: Broadband Over the Mobile Network Tweed <usenet.tweed@gmail.com> - 2026-05-24 11:18 +0000
                                  Re: Broadband Over the Mobile Network "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-05-24 14:18 +0100
                                  Re: Broadband Over the Mobile Network David Rance <david@SPAMOFF.invalid> - 2026-05-24 18:37 +0100
                                  Re: Broadband Over the Mobile Network Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2026-05-24 22:10 +0000
                                    Re: Broadband Over the Mobile Network Richmond <dnomhcir@gmx.com> - 2026-05-25 10:21 +0100
                          Re: Broadband Over the Mobile Network "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-05-24 10:58 +0100
                            Re: Broadband Over the Mobile Network "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-05-24 11:29 +0100
        Re: Broadband Over the Mobile Network Graham J <nobody@nowhere.co.uk> - 2026-05-21 14:23 +0100
          Re: Broadband Over the Mobile Network Theo <theom+news@chiark.greenend.org.uk> - 2026-05-21 15:15 +0100
            Re: Broadband Over the Mobile Network Graham J <nobody@nowhere.co.uk> - 2026-05-21 22:16 +0100
        Re: Broadband Over the Mobile Network Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2026-05-21 14:12 +0000
        Sending email from own server (was: Broadband Over the Mobile Network) Geoff Clare <geoff@clare.See-My-Signature.invalid> - 2026-05-22 13:59 +0100
          Re: Sending email from own server Graham J <nobody@nowhere.co.uk> - 2026-05-22 14:20 +0100
            Re: Sending email from own server Tweed <usenet.tweed@gmail.com> - 2026-05-22 15:23 +0000
              Re: Sending email from own server Graham J <nobody@nowhere.co.uk> - 2026-05-22 20:03 +0100
      Re: Broadband Over the Mobile Network David Wade <g4ugm@dave.invalid> - 2026-05-21 19:01 +0100
    Re: Broadband Over the Mobile Network Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2026-05-21 13:26 +0000
    Re: Broadband Over the Mobile Network Java Jive <java@evij.com.invalid> - 2026-05-21 15:18 +0100
    Re: Broadband Over the Mobile Network Jason H <jason_hindle@yahoo.com> - 2026-05-30 09:29 +0000
      Re: Broadband Over the Mobile Network "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-05-30 13:43 +0100
      Re: Broadband Over the Mobile Network Woody <harrogate3@ntlworld.com> - 2026-05-30 15:54 +0100
        Re: Broadband Over the Mobile Network Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2026-05-30 16:01 +0100
          Re: Broadband Over the Mobile Network Woody <harrogate3@ntlworld.com> - 2026-05-30 20:12 +0100
        Re: Broadband Over the Mobile Network "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-05-30 17:22 +0100
        Re: Broadband Over the Mobile Network Richmond <dnomhcir@gmx.com> - 2026-05-30 17:25 +0100
          Re: Broadband Over the Mobile Network David Wade <g4ugm@dave.invalid> - 2026-05-30 17:51 +0100

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#57326

On 21/05/2026 10:15, Jeff Gaines wrote:
>
>I have just spoken to EE about this.
>
>I can get 4G in the village and was offered 2 packages:
>
>100 Mb/s unlimited downloads £35 per month
>Max speed (whatever the SIM supports) unlimited downloads £43 per month
>
>I currently get 12 Mb/s over my landline so the potential speed is a dream.
>
>Problem is the connections is via a small box that you can take from room 
>to room and connect to via WiFi so whenever I want to use the Internet I 
>have to connect (up to 5 devices a time).
>
>At the moment I feed the connection into my powerline so it's available in 
>any room and the router also has WiFi so any device can connect via WiFi.
>
>Does anybody here have this sort of service? If so is it something that 
>you get used to? It's quite a different way of working.

I have a colleague who uses this without any problems. As others have
 written, caveat YMMV, but definitely worth trying if on an old ADSL
 connection. If you have a landline number you want to keep, you may need to
 migrate it to a VoIP provider. If the 4/5G router has an ethernet port, you
 can build your own wired/wireless network and connect the router to this.

-- 
--
A PICKER OF UNCONSIDERED TRIFLES

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#57327

On 2026/5/30 10:29:44, Jason H wrote:
> On 21/05/2026 10:15, Jeff Gaines wrote:
[]
>> Problem is the connections is via a small box that you can take from room 
>> to room and connect to via WiFi so whenever I want to use the Internet I 
>> have to connect (up to 5 devices a time).

When you say take from room to room, do you mean you have to, because
its wifi connectivity is of very limited range? Or just that you _can_
(which I'd not do unless it _is_ that limited)?
[]
-- 
J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G()ALIS-Ch++(p)Ar++T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf

Never raise your hand to your children. It leaves your mid-section
unprotected

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#57328

On Sat 30/05/2026 10:29, Jason H wrote:
> On 21/05/2026 10:15, Jeff Gaines wrote:
>>
>> I have just spoken to EE about this.
>>
>> I can get 4G in the village and was offered 2 packages:
>>
>> 100 Mb/s unlimited downloads £35 per month
>> Max speed (whatever the SIM supports) unlimited downloads £43 per month
>>
>> I currently get 12 Mb/s over my landline so the potential speed is a 
>> dream.
>>
>> Problem is the connections is via a small box that you can take from 
>> room to room and connect to via WiFi so whenever I want to use the 
>> Internet I have to connect (up to 5 devices a time).
>>
>> At the moment I feed the connection into my powerline so it's 
>> available in any room and the router also has WiFi so any device can 
>> connect via WiFi.
>>
>> Does anybody here have this sort of service? If so is it something 
>> that you get used to? It's quite a different way of working.
> 
> I have a colleague who uses this without any problems. As others have
> written, caveat YMMV, but definitely worth trying if on an old ADSL
> connection. If you have a landline number you want to keep, you may need to
> migrate it to a VoIP provider. If the 4/5G router has an ethernet port, you
> can build your own wired/wireless network and connect the router to this.
> 

A friend has recently moved to an small new development which has EE 
fibre only. They have been told that they cannot erect aerials or sat 
dishes (although that is not in writing and the properties are freehold) 
- but the house is wired from all rooms to a common location in the 
loft, all terminated in B/L TV connectors. Fortunately they live within 
site of a relay TX so ordinary off-air signals do work even with an 
indoor aerial!

Their problem is that EE do not carry all Freeview channels. On our 
friend's behalf (he is totally non-technical) I rang Sky who said that 
as BTOR carry EE and Sky, he could move to Sky very easily - as indeed 
he did.

Sky provide a free telephone 'line' within this package on which they 
can receive calls, but if you don't have a call package, then to make 
calls? 27p/minute!!! Ergo the suggestion above of moving the landline 
phone number to a Voip provider (calls usually a few pence a minute if 
not even free) is sound. The Voip service will continue to work whoever 
is the main broadband provider.

Next question on here is to ask for opinions on Voip providers!

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#57329

Woody wrote:

> A friend has recently moved to an small new development which has EE 
> fibre only

Doesn't sound right?  EE is part of BT (like Plusnet) so you can bet 
it's installed by Openreach and any other provider that runs over 
Openreach is also available ...

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#57333

On Sat 30/05/2026 16:01, Andy Burns wrote:
> Woody wrote:
> 
>> A friend has recently moved to an small new development which has EE 
>> fibre only
> 
> Doesn't sound right?  EE is part of BT (like Plusnet) so you can bet 
> it's installed by Openreach and any other provider that runs over 
> Openreach is also available ...
> 

The installation already in place was branded EE and so were the the 
bills. He had been told that it was EE or nothing. I called Sky who said 
-as I thought they would and you did - that both EE and Sky use OR so 
they could swap - which he did as a former Sky user. The daft bit is 
that EE is poor in the village and O2 is not much better. There is a 
single mast in the middle of the village that carries 3 only.

The house our friend lives in is one of these modern' throw-ups' which 
uses quite a lot of metal foil in the insulation - that doesn't help. I 
did warn them before they moved and that they should move the number to 
Voip so that could retain it when they moved (same dialling code) but 
they didn't bother and now have a new number that no-one knows!

There's a lot more channels than those nominated missing - all the 
selling channels, most (all) of the 'That's' channels 70 and upwards, so 
of the 5series channels etc. We get over 80 SD channels off air, they 
get about 45 off EE but more than us (now) off Sky.

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#57330

On 2026/5/30 15:54:48, Woody wrote:
[]
> A friend has recently moved to an small new development which has EE 
> fibre only.

(Andy: I don't think he meant only from EE, I think he meant fibre only,
no dish or aerial.)

 They have been told that they cannot erect aerials or sat
> dishes (although that is not in writing and the properties are freehold) 

Might be something in the planning grant for the development - worth
checking; should be freely available (and not _too_ hard to find) on the
relevant local authority planning website. Though even if there's
nothing actually blocking it, may be unpopular with neighbours if does
put something up. But ...

> - but the house is wired from all rooms to a common location in the 
> loft, all terminated in B/L TV connectors. Fortunately they live within 
> site of a relay TX so ordinary off-air signals do work even with an 
> indoor aerial!

... if that's the case, an aerial in the loft (unless the roof is made
of something very odd, or maybe has solar panels) might be all that's
needed (perhaps with a booster if it's to feed lots of rooms).
> 
> Their problem is that EE do not carry all Freeview channels. On our 
> friend's behalf (he is totally non-technical) I rang Sky who said that 
> as BTOR carry EE and Sky, he could move to Sky very easily - as indeed 
> he did.

Paying, of course, for what he can get for free. Unless he is now hooked
on the extra channels. Also, presumably, using up some of his internet
bandwidth, though probably not significant if full fibre, unless a
many-streaming household.
> 
> Sky provide a free telephone 'line' within this package on which they 
> can receive calls, but if you don't have a call package, then to make 
> calls? 27p/minute!!! Ergo the suggestion above of moving the landline 
> phone number to a Voip provider (calls usually a few pence a minute if 
> not even free) is sound. The Voip service will continue to work whoever 
> is the main broadband provider.

Does he have a mobile contract with free minutes? I know most people do
(I don't); if so, then the Sky one - which sounds like it's VoIP anyway
- is least bother (just make outgoing calls on the mobile) and free;
most VoIP suppliers do charge, even though only a tiny amount, to keep a
landline number.
> 
> Next question on here is to ask for opinions on Voip providers!
> 
Or on u.t.voip :-) [I've added it.]

Being one of the few _without_ a mobile contract that includes free
minutes, I've been monitoring what people are saying here, and here's
what I've garnered: Zen are workmanlike, though I'm not sure if you can
have _just_ VoIP from them, or have to get your broadband from them; A&A
(Andrews & Arnold) may be excellent, though at least one has found that
their reputation for being the Rolls-Royce of ISP has made them a bit
snooty when dealing with customers for just VoIP (which they're doing at
competitive pricing); voipfone seems to be regarded well by the one or
two using them. Prices seem to be, I think, a pound or two for just the
facility, maybe plus a one-off fee to transfer a number; five or six for
the number plus about 500 minutes a month; other fees for different
numbers of minutes, including unlimited for quite a lot (not sure if all
providers provide that option). If you are going to continue using your
analogue 'phone, you'll need an adapter ("ATA"), unless the router the
ISP provides has one built in, or your current handset is one that can
register with a base station that some routers already include. (BT and
I think Zen's routers have the ATA built in [a telephone socket on the
router]; I _think_ EE do; PlusNet don't (and aren't going to be offering
VoIP).

Clarifications/corrections welcome :-)
-- 
J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G()ALIS-Ch++(p)Ar++T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf

cookery seems to be the new sex. - Michael Buerk in RT, 2017/1/21-27

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#57331

Woody <harrogate3@ntlworld.com> writes:

> Their problem is that EE do not carry all Freeview channels.

What channels are there which cannot be obtained over the internet? Why
not buy a Roku TV stick? too late now, but it seemed odd to me to link
tv channels to broadband.

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#57332

On 30/05/2026 17:25, Richmond wrote:
> Woody <harrogate3@ntlworld.com> writes:
> 
>> Their problem is that EE do not carry all Freeview channels.
> 
> What channels are there which cannot be obtained over the internet? Why
> not buy a Roku TV stick? too late now, but it seemed odd to me to link
> tv channels to broadband.

Quest, the various +1 channels , Sky Mix, Sky Arts, TLC

Dave

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