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Re: Broadband Over the Mobile Network

From "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk>
Newsgroups uk.telecom.broadband, uk.telecom.voip
Subject Re: Broadband Over the Mobile Network
Date 2026-05-30 17:22 +0100
Organization 255 software
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On 2026/5/30 15:54:48, Woody wrote:
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> A friend has recently moved to an small new development which has EE 
> fibre only.

(Andy: I don't think he meant only from EE, I think he meant fibre only,
no dish or aerial.)

 They have been told that they cannot erect aerials or sat
> dishes (although that is not in writing and the properties are freehold) 

Might be something in the planning grant for the development - worth
checking; should be freely available (and not _too_ hard to find) on the
relevant local authority planning website. Though even if there's
nothing actually blocking it, may be unpopular with neighbours if does
put something up. But ...

> - but the house is wired from all rooms to a common location in the 
> loft, all terminated in B/L TV connectors. Fortunately they live within 
> site of a relay TX so ordinary off-air signals do work even with an 
> indoor aerial!

... if that's the case, an aerial in the loft (unless the roof is made
of something very odd, or maybe has solar panels) might be all that's
needed (perhaps with a booster if it's to feed lots of rooms).
> 
> Their problem is that EE do not carry all Freeview channels. On our 
> friend's behalf (he is totally non-technical) I rang Sky who said that 
> as BTOR carry EE and Sky, he could move to Sky very easily - as indeed 
> he did.

Paying, of course, for what he can get for free. Unless he is now hooked
on the extra channels. Also, presumably, using up some of his internet
bandwidth, though probably not significant if full fibre, unless a
many-streaming household.
> 
> Sky provide a free telephone 'line' within this package on which they 
> can receive calls, but if you don't have a call package, then to make 
> calls? 27p/minute!!! Ergo the suggestion above of moving the landline 
> phone number to a Voip provider (calls usually a few pence a minute if 
> not even free) is sound. The Voip service will continue to work whoever 
> is the main broadband provider.

Does he have a mobile contract with free minutes? I know most people do
(I don't); if so, then the Sky one - which sounds like it's VoIP anyway
- is least bother (just make outgoing calls on the mobile) and free;
most VoIP suppliers do charge, even though only a tiny amount, to keep a
landline number.
> 
> Next question on here is to ask for opinions on Voip providers!
> 
Or on u.t.voip :-) [I've added it.]

Being one of the few _without_ a mobile contract that includes free
minutes, I've been monitoring what people are saying here, and here's
what I've garnered: Zen are workmanlike, though I'm not sure if you can
have _just_ VoIP from them, or have to get your broadband from them; A&A
(Andrews & Arnold) may be excellent, though at least one has found that
their reputation for being the Rolls-Royce of ISP has made them a bit
snooty when dealing with customers for just VoIP (which they're doing at
competitive pricing); voipfone seems to be regarded well by the one or
two using them. Prices seem to be, I think, a pound or two for just the
facility, maybe plus a one-off fee to transfer a number; five or six for
the number plus about 500 minutes a month; other fees for different
numbers of minutes, including unlimited for quite a lot (not sure if all
providers provide that option). If you are going to continue using your
analogue 'phone, you'll need an adapter ("ATA"), unless the router the
ISP provides has one built in, or your current handset is one that can
register with a base station that some routers already include. (BT and
I think Zen's routers have the ATA built in [a telephone socket on the
router]; I _think_ EE do; PlusNet don't (and aren't going to be offering
VoIP).

Clarifications/corrections welcome :-)
-- 
J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G()ALIS-Ch++(p)Ar++T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf

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              Re: Broadband Over the Mobile Network Graham J <nobody@nowhere.co.uk> - 2026-05-22 08:22 +0100
                Re: Broadband Over the Mobile Network Tweed <usenet.tweed@gmail.com> - 2026-05-22 07:36 +0000
                Re: Broadband Over the Mobile Network Graham J <nobody@nowhere.co.uk> - 2026-05-22 09:15 +0100
                Re: Broadband Over the Mobile Network "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-05-22 21:47 +0100
                Re: Broadband Over the Mobile Network Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2026-05-23 10:09 +0000
                Re: Broadband Over the Mobile Network Tweed <usenet.tweed@gmail.com> - 2026-05-23 10:32 +0000
                Re: Broadband Over the Mobile Network "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-05-23 20:48 +0100
                Re: Broadband Over the Mobile Network Tweed <usenet.tweed@gmail.com> - 2026-05-24 06:11 +0000
                Re: Broadband Over the Mobile Network "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-05-24 11:27 +0100
                Re: Broadband Over the Mobile Network Tweed <usenet.tweed@gmail.com> - 2026-05-24 11:18 +0000
                Re: Broadband Over the Mobile Network "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-05-24 14:18 +0100
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                Re: Broadband Over the Mobile Network Richmond <dnomhcir@gmx.com> - 2026-05-25 10:21 +0100
                Re: Broadband Over the Mobile Network "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-05-24 10:58 +0100
                Re: Broadband Over the Mobile Network "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-05-24 11:29 +0100
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      Re: Broadband Over the Mobile Network Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2026-05-21 14:12 +0000
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    Re: Broadband Over the Mobile Network David Wade <g4ugm@dave.invalid> - 2026-05-21 19:01 +0100
  Re: Broadband Over the Mobile Network Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2026-05-21 13:26 +0000
  Re: Broadband Over the Mobile Network Java Jive <java@evij.com.invalid> - 2026-05-21 15:18 +0100
  Re: Broadband Over the Mobile Network Jason H <jason_hindle@yahoo.com> - 2026-05-30 09:29 +0000
    Re: Broadband Over the Mobile Network "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-05-30 13:43 +0100
    Re: Broadband Over the Mobile Network Woody <harrogate3@ntlworld.com> - 2026-05-30 15:54 +0100
      Re: Broadband Over the Mobile Network Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2026-05-30 16:01 +0100
        Re: Broadband Over the Mobile Network Woody <harrogate3@ntlworld.com> - 2026-05-30 20:12 +0100
      Re: Broadband Over the Mobile Network "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-05-30 17:22 +0100
      Re: Broadband Over the Mobile Network Richmond <dnomhcir@gmx.com> - 2026-05-30 17:25 +0100
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