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  MailMate TimH <thnews@poboxmolar.com.invalid> - 2025-03-16 19:30 +0000
    Re: MailMate John <Man@the.keyboard> - 2025-03-17 10:44 +0000
      Re: MailMate Graeme Wall <rail@greywall.demon.co.uk> - 2025-03-17 11:19 +0000
        Re: MailMate John <Man@the.keyboard> - 2025-03-17 12:08 +0000
          Re: MailMate Alan B <alanrichardbarker@gmail.com.invalid> - 2025-03-17 12:37 +0000
    Re: MailMate Alan Ralph <usenet@alanralph.co.uk> - 2025-03-18 15:28 +0000
      Re: MailMate Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> - 2025-03-18 16:52 +0100
        Re: MailMate David <David.is@home.today> - 2025-03-18 16:18 +0000
        Re: MailMate TimH <thnews@poboxmolar.com.invalid> - 2025-03-18 17:15 +0000
          Re: MailMate Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> - 2025-03-18 18:25 +0100
      Re: MailMate RJH <patchmoney@gmx.com> - 2025-03-18 15:57 +0000
        Re: MailMate TimH <thnews@poboxmolar.com.invalid> - 2025-03-18 16:47 +0000
        Re: MailMate Bernd Froehlich <befr@eaglesoft.de> - 2025-03-19 07:16 +0000
          Re: MailMate RJH <patchmoney@gmx.com> - 2025-03-19 17:25 +0000
            Re: MailMate Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> - 2025-03-19 18:38 +0100
      Re: MailMate TimH <thnews@poboxmolar.com.invalid> - 2025-03-18 16:52 +0000
        Re: MailMate Steve Hodgson <hamrun@gmail.com> - 2025-04-16 17:09 +0000
          Re: MailMate TimH <thnews@poboxmolar.com.invalid> - 2025-04-16 22:06 +0000
            Re: MailMate snipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe) - 2025-04-17 00:40 +0100

#180690 — MailMate

Just wondering if anyone is using/has used MailMate? I'm a few days into the 2
week trial, and rather liking it, though config isn't entirely
straightforward; e.g. I haven't managed to bludgeon key bindings into
submission yet.

(I'm in one of my semi-regular 'omg Apple's going down the pan' moods, which
is probably what prompted this.)
-- 
TimH
pull tooth to reply by email

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#180691

On 16 Mar 2025 19:30:59 GMT, TimH <thnews@poboxmolar.com.invalid>
wrote:

>Just wondering if anyone is using/has used MailMate? I'm a few days into the 2
>week trial, and rather liking it, though config isn't entirely
>straightforward; e.g. I haven't managed to bludgeon key bindings into
>submission yet.

 I had a little lookie. Nope, not for me. Too expensive, the really
positive reviews don't seem real and the first review I could find
that looked like it might be interesting is jailed behind an
account-wall. If your opinion is so damned important that you have to
wrap a demand for me to make an account to read it then you are
obviously far too important to be read by a lower life-form like me. 

 Yerp, I realise that the reviewer isn't relevant to the quality or
otherwise of MaiMate but it's still annoying. 

 But why was I bothering? No one ever emails me. :) 


>
>(I'm in one of my semi-regular 'omg Apple's going down the pan' moods, which
>is probably what prompted this.)

 Okay. Here, have a nice hug: {{{HUG}}}. 

 Slightly better, now? Fine, so what the fuck makes you think Apple
are enshitifying themselves any more today than at any other time in
the previous ten or more years? What *specifically* are they now doing
wrong or wrongly? 

 Or is it just one of those feelings of named dread (so much better
than nameless dread which can infect *anything*) that creeps up on
humans every so often like the smell of semolina in a school lunch
room or the endlessly repeated encounters with row after row of
ready-made sandwiches dripping with mayo? 

 I wonder, do cats suffer from dread, named or otherwise? 

 Off-topic, right? 

                                                          J. 

 
 

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#180692

On 17/03/2025 10:44, John wrote:
> On 16 Mar 2025 19:30:59 GMT, TimH <thnews@poboxmolar.com.invalid>
> wrote:
> 
>> Just wondering if anyone is using/has used MailMate? I'm a few days into the 2
>> week trial, and rather liking it, though config isn't entirely
>> straightforward; e.g. I haven't managed to bludgeon key bindings into
>> submission yet.
> 
>   I had a little lookie. Nope, not for me. Too expensive, the really
> positive reviews don't seem real and the first review I could find
> that looked like it might be interesting is jailed behind an
> account-wall. If your opinion is so damned important that you have to
> wrap a demand for me to make an account to read it then you are
> obviously far too important to be read by a lower life-form like me.
> 
>   Yerp, I realise that the reviewer isn't relevant to the quality or
> otherwise of MaiMate but it's still annoying.
> 
>   But why was I bothering? No one ever emails me. :)
> 
> 
>>
>> (I'm in one of my semi-regular 'omg Apple's going down the pan' moods, which
>> is probably what prompted this.)
> 
>   Okay. Here, have a nice hug: {{{HUG}}}.
> 
>   Slightly better, now? Fine, so what the fuck makes you think Apple
> are enshitifying themselves any more today than at any other time in
> the previous ten or more years? What *specifically* are they now doing
> wrong or wrongly?
> 
>   Or is it just one of those feelings of named dread (so much better
> than nameless dread which can infect *anything*) that creeps up on
> humans every so often like the smell of semolina in a school lunch
> room or the endlessly repeated encounters with row after row of
> ready-made sandwiches dripping with mayo?
> 
>   I wonder, do cats suffer from dread, named or otherwise?
> 
>   Off-topic, right?
> 
>                                                            J.
> 
>   
>   
> 

Is it possible for cats to be off-topic on the internet?
-- 
Graeme Wall
This account not read.

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#180693

On Mon, 17 Mar 2025 11:19:05 +0000, Graeme Wall
<rail@greywall.demon.co.uk> wrote:

>On 17/03/2025 10:44, John wrote:
>> On 16 Mar 2025 19:30:59 GMT, TimH <thnews@poboxmolar.com.invalid>
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> Just wondering if anyone is using/has used MailMate? I'm a few days into the 2
>>> week trial, and rather liking it, though config isn't entirely
>>> straightforward; e.g. I haven't managed to bludgeon key bindings into
>>> submission yet.
>> 
>>   I had a little lookie. Nope, not for me. Too expensive, the really
>> positive reviews don't seem real and the first review I could find
>> that looked like it might be interesting is jailed behind an
>> account-wall. If your opinion is so damned important that you have to
>> wrap a demand for me to make an account to read it then you are
>> obviously far too important to be read by a lower life-form like me.
>> 
>>   Yerp, I realise that the reviewer isn't relevant to the quality or
>> otherwise of MaiMate but it's still annoying.
>> 
>>   But why was I bothering? No one ever emails me. :)
>> 
>> 
>>>
>>> (I'm in one of my semi-regular 'omg Apple's going down the pan' moods, which
>>> is probably what prompted this.)
>> 
>>   Okay. Here, have a nice hug: {{{HUG}}}.
>> 
>>   Slightly better, now? Fine, so what the fuck makes you think Apple
>> are enshitifying themselves any more today than at any other time in
>> the previous ten or more years? What *specifically* are they now doing
>> wrong or wrongly?
>> 
>>   Or is it just one of those feelings of named dread (so much better
>> than nameless dread which can infect *anything*) that creeps up on
>> humans every so often like the smell of semolina in a school lunch
>> room or the endlessly repeated encounters with row after row of
>> ready-made sandwiches dripping with mayo?
>> 
>>   I wonder, do cats suffer from dread, named or otherwise?
>> 
>>   Off-topic, right?
>> 
>>                                                            J.
>> 
>>   
>>   
>> 
>
>Is it possible for cats to be off-topic on the internet?

 Ask a cat. 

 No, on second thoughts, perhaps that is not a wise suggestion. Cats
are well-known for being self-centred, egotistical, evil little demons
who remember being worshipped as gods. 

 They are also deliberately cute. 

                                                             J. 

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#180694

On 17 Mar 2025 at 12:08:54 GMT, "John" <Man@the.keyboard> wrote:

> On Mon, 17 Mar 2025 11:19:05 +0000, Graeme Wall
> <rail@greywall.demon.co.uk> wrote:
> 
>> On 17/03/2025 10:44, John wrote:
>>> On 16 Mar 2025 19:30:59 GMT, TimH <thnews@poboxmolar.com.invalid>
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Just wondering if anyone is using/has used MailMate? I'm a few days into the 2
>>>> week trial, and rather liking it, though config isn't entirely
>>>> straightforward; e.g. I haven't managed to bludgeon key bindings into
>>>> submission yet.
>>> 
>>>   I had a little lookie. Nope, not for me. Too expensive, the really
>>> positive reviews don't seem real and the first review I could find
>>> that looked like it might be interesting is jailed behind an
>>> account-wall. If your opinion is so damned important that you have to
>>> wrap a demand for me to make an account to read it then you are
>>> obviously far too important to be read by a lower life-form like me.
>>> 
>>>   Yerp, I realise that the reviewer isn't relevant to the quality or
>>> otherwise of MaiMate but it's still annoying.
>>> 
>>>   But why was I bothering? No one ever emails me. :)
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> (I'm in one of my semi-regular 'omg Apple's going down the pan' moods, which
>>>> is probably what prompted this.)
>>> 
>>>   Okay. Here, have a nice hug: {{{HUG}}}.
>>> 
>>>   Slightly better, now? Fine, so what the fuck makes you think Apple
>>> are enshitifying themselves any more today than at any other time in
>>> the previous ten or more years? What *specifically* are they now doing
>>> wrong or wrongly?
>>> 
>>>   Or is it just one of those feelings of named dread (so much better
>>> than nameless dread which can infect *anything*) that creeps up on
>>> humans every so often like the smell of semolina in a school lunch
>>> room or the endlessly repeated encounters with row after row of
>>> ready-made sandwiches dripping with mayo?
>>> 
>>>   I wonder, do cats suffer from dread, named or otherwise?
>>> 
>>>   Off-topic, right?
>>> 
>>>                                                            J.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>> 
>> Is it possible for cats to be off-topic on the internet?
> 
>  Ask a cat.
> 
>  No, on second thoughts, perhaps that is not a wise suggestion. Cats
> are well-known for being self-centred, egotistical, evil little demons
> who remember being worshipped as gods.

Just like someone whose name I won't mention?

> They are also deliberately cute.

He's definitely not cute!

-- 
Cheers, Alan

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#180696

On 16 Mar 2025 at 19:30:59 GMT, "TimH" <thnews@poboxmolar.com.invalid> wrote:

> Just wondering if anyone is using/has used MailMate? I'm a few days into the 2
> week trial, and rather liking it, though config isn't entirely
> straightforward; e.g. I haven't managed to bludgeon key bindings into
> submission yet.

I've recently moved back to MailMate after spending time with the latest Apple
Mail. Alas, now that Apple have removed the ability to use Mail plugins I was
faced with either manually archiving emails into DEVONthink or finding another
email app that could do that for me automagically.

Pros of MailMate:

* Integration with lots of other apps.
* Write emails using Markdown.
* Smart mailboxes, but on steroids.
* Mail rules, but on steroids.
* Fonts and UI can be customised.
* Fast!
* Under active development.

Cons of MailMate:
* Not free, but reasonably priced.
* Possibly overkill if you don't have lots of email to process, or a need for
the integration with other apps.

> (I'm in one of my semi-regular 'omg Apple's going down the pan' moods, which
> is probably what prompted this.)

I know the feeling.

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#180697

On 18.03.25 16:28, Alan Ralph wrote:
> On 16 Mar 2025 at 19:30:59 GMT, "TimH" <thnews@poboxmolar.com.invalid> wrote:
> 
>> Just wondering if anyone is using/has used MailMate? I'm a few days into the 2
>> week trial, and rather liking it, though config isn't entirely
>> straightforward; e.g. I haven't managed to bludgeon key bindings into
>> submission yet.
> 
> I've recently moved back to MailMate after spending time with the latest Apple
> Mail. Alas, now that Apple have removed the ability to use Mail plugins I was
> faced with either manually archiving emails into DEVONthink or finding another
> email app that could do that for me automagically.
> 
> Pros of MailMate:
> 
> * Integration with lots of other apps.
> * Write emails using Markdown.
> * Smart mailboxes, but on steroids.
> * Mail rules, but on steroids.
> * Fonts and UI can be customised.
> * Fast!
> * Under active development.
> 
> Cons of MailMate:
> * Not free, but reasonably priced.
> * Possibly overkill if you don't have lots of email to process, or a need for
> the integration with other apps.
> 
>> (I'm in one of my semi-regular 'omg Apple's going down the pan' moods, which
>> is probably what prompted this.)
> 
> I know the feeling.

Thunderbird does it all as FOSS and it does it on all desktop platforms
not only mac OS.


-- 
"Roma locuta, causa finita." (Augustinus)

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#180699

On 18/03/2025 15:52, Jörg Lorenz wrote:
> On 18.03.25 16:28, Alan Ralph wrote:
>> On 16 Mar 2025 at 19:30:59 GMT, "TimH" <thnews@poboxmolar.com.invalid> wrote:
>>
>>> Just wondering if anyone is using/has used MailMate? I'm a few days into the 2
>>> week trial, and rather liking it, though config isn't entirely
>>> straightforward; e.g. I haven't managed to bludgeon key bindings into
>>> submission yet.
>>
>> I've recently moved back to MailMate after spending time with the latest Apple
>> Mail. Alas, now that Apple have removed the ability to use Mail plugins I was
>> faced with either manually archiving emails into DEVONthink or finding another
>> email app that could do that for me automagically.
>>
>> Pros of MailMate:
>>
>> * Integration with lots of other apps.
>> * Write emails using Markdown.
>> * Smart mailboxes, but on steroids.
>> * Mail rules, but on steroids.
>> * Fonts and UI can be customised.
>> * Fast!
>> * Under active development.
>>
>> Cons of MailMate:
>> * Not free, but reasonably priced.
>> * Possibly overkill if you don't have lots of email to process, or a need for
>> the integration with other apps.
>>
>>> (I'm in one of my semi-regular 'omg Apple's going down the pan' moods, which
>>> is probably what prompted this.)
>>
>> I know the feeling.
> 
> Thunderbird does it all as FOSS and it does it on all desktop platforms
> not only mac OS.

That is correct!

MUCH safer than software from an unidentified person in Rotterdam, 
Netherlands

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#180702

On 18 Mar 2025 at 3:52:49 pm GMT, "Jörg Lorenz" <hugybear@gmx.net> wrote:

> Thunderbird does it all as FOSS and it does it on all desktop platforms
> not only mac OS.

It's <mumble> years since I last used Thunderbird. Worth a look I suppose,
though Mozilla's recent behaviour isn't exactly reassuring. (Given that
they're reliant on Google for 75% of their income, it's not exactly
surprising, either.)
-- 
TimH
pull tooth to reply by email

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#180703

On 18.03.25 18:15, TimH wrote:
> On 18 Mar 2025 at 3:52:49 pm GMT, "Jörg Lorenz" <hugybear@gmx.net> wrote:
> 
>> Thunderbird does it all as FOSS and it does it on all desktop platforms
>> not only mac OS.
> 
> It's <mumble> years since I last used Thunderbird. Worth a look I suppose,
> though Mozilla's recent behaviour isn't exactly reassuring. (Given that
> they're reliant on Google for 75% of their income, it's not exactly
> surprising, either.)

Didn't we discuss funcionalities and not financial dependencies?

-- 
"Roma locuta, causa finita." (Augustinus)

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#180698

On 18 Mar 2025 at 15:28:16 GMT, Alan Ralph wrote:

> On 16 Mar 2025 at 19:30:59 GMT, "TimH" <thnews@poboxmolar.com.invalid> wrote:
> 
>> Just wondering if anyone is using/has used MailMate? I'm a few days into the 2
>> week trial, and rather liking it, though config isn't entirely
>> straightforward; e.g. I haven't managed to bludgeon key bindings into
>> submission yet.
> 
> I've recently moved back to MailMate after spending time with the latest Apple
> Mail. Alas, now that Apple have removed the ability to use Mail plugins I was
> faced with either manually archiving emails into DEVONthink or finding another
> email app that could do that for me automagically.
> 
> Pros of MailMate:
> 
> * Integration with lots of other apps.
> * Write emails using Markdown.
> * Smart mailboxes, but on steroids.
> * Mail rules, but on steroids.
> * Fonts and UI can be customised.
> * Fast!
> * Under active development.
> 
> Cons of MailMate:
> * Not free, but reasonably priced.

£40+ pa? I'd have to *really* not like Mail to pay that, year on year.

> * Possibly overkill if you don't have lots of email to process, or a need for
> the integration with other apps.
> 
>> (I'm in one of my semi-regular 'omg Apple's going down the pan' moods, which
>> is probably what prompted this.)
> 
> I know the feeling.


-- 
Cheers, Rob, Sheffield UK

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#180700

On 18 Mar 2025 at 3:57:11 pm GMT, "RJH" <patchmoney@gmx.com> wrote:

>> Cons of MailMate:
>> * Not free, but reasonably priced.
> 
> £40+ pa? I'd have to *really* not like Mail to pay that, year on year.

Well, if I've understood correctly, you're only required to pay once ($10 for
3 months). If you don't pay after that, it reverts to 'free mode' which is
exactly the same as paid, except a header is added saying 'MailMate free mode'
- much like MacSoup, IIRC.

-- 
TimH
pull tooth to reply by email

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#180704

On 18. Mar 2025 at 16:57:11 CET, "RJH" <patchmoney@gmx.com> wrote:

> £40+ pa? I'd have to *really* not like Mail to pay that, year on year.

I really HATE subscription models, but I understand his reasons:
<https://freron.com/motivation/>

If you are that short of cash you can even use it in free mode after paying
ONCE:
<https://freron.com/pricing/>

I´m currently using Thunderbird, but if I ever want to switch to another
MailApp it will probably be MailMate.

(Just my 2 Cent)

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#180708

On 19 Mar 2025 at 07:16:32 GMT, Bernd Froehlich wrote:

> On 18. Mar 2025 at 16:57:11 CET, "RJH" <patchmoney@gmx.com> wrote:
> 
>> £40+ pa? I'd have to *really* not like Mail to pay that, year on year.
> 
> I really HATE subscription models, but I understand his reasons:
> <https://freron.com/motivation/>
> 
> If you are that short of cash you can even use it in free mode after paying
> ONCE:
> <https://freron.com/pricing/>
> 

Yes, thanks, noticed that. £10 is fine - I read it first time round as a
rolling sub, but I see it's an apparently non-visible header and a subtle nag
screen. Not ideal but I could live with it.

> I´m currently using Thunderbird, but if I ever want to switch to another
> MailApp it will probably be MailMate.
> 
> (Just my 2 Cent)

I'm managing with Mail, but it's not without quirks.

-- 
Cheers, Rob, Sheffield UK

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#180709

On 19.03.25 18:25, RJH wrote:
> On 19 Mar 2025 at 07:16:32 GMT, Bernd Froehlich wrote:
> 
>> On 18. Mar 2025 at 16:57:11 CET, "RJH" <patchmoney@gmx.com> wrote:
>>
>>> £40+ pa? I'd have to *really* not like Mail to pay that, year on year.
>>
>> I really HATE subscription models, but I understand his reasons:
>> <https://freron.com/motivation/>
>>
>> If you are that short of cash you can even use it in free mode after paying
>> ONCE:
>> <https://freron.com/pricing/>
>>
> 
> Yes, thanks, noticed that. £10 is fine - I read it first time round as a
> rolling sub, but I see it's an apparently non-visible header and a subtle nag
> screen. Not ideal but I could live with it.
> 
>> I´m currently using Thunderbird, but if I ever want to switch to another
>> MailApp it will probably be MailMate.
>>
>> (Just my 2 Cent)
> 
> I'm managing with Mail, but it's not without quirks.

Mail is OK so far but there are two things that are show-stoppers for me:

1. Only one profile for each user

2. Did not find a way to kill format flowed.


-- 
"Roma locuta, causa finita." (Augustinus)

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#180701

On 18 Mar 2025 at 3:28:16 pm GMT, "Alan Ralph" <usenet@alanralph.co.uk> wrote:

> I've recently moved back to MailMate after spending time with the latest Apple
> Mail. Alas, now that Apple have removed the ability to use Mail plugins I was
> faced with either manually archiving emails into DEVONthink or finding another
> email app that could do that for me automagically.
> 
> Pros of MailMate:
> 
> * Integration with lots of other apps.
> * Write emails using Markdown.
> * Smart mailboxes, but on steroids.
> * Mail rules, but on steroids.
> * Fonts and UI can be customised.
> * Fast!
> * Under active development.
> 
> Cons of MailMate:
> * Not free, but reasonably priced.
> * Possibly overkill if you don't have lots of email to process, or a need for
> the integration with other apps.

Thanks, that's really helpful. Inching towards a licence, I think...

-- 
TimH
pull tooth to reply by email

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#180881

On 18 Mar 2025 at 17:52:10 GMT, "TimH" <thnews@poboxmolar.com.invalid> wrote:

> On 18 Mar 2025 at 3:28:16 pm GMT, "Alan Ralph" <usenet@alanralph.co.uk> wrote:
> 
>> I've recently moved back to MailMate after spending time with the latest Apple
>> Mail. Alas, now that Apple have removed the ability to use Mail plugins I was
>> faced with either manually archiving emails into DEVONthink or finding another
>> email app that could do that for me automagically.
>> 
>> Pros of MailMate:
>> 
>> * Integration with lots of other apps.
>> * Write emails using Markdown.
>> * Smart mailboxes, but on steroids.
>> * Mail rules, but on steroids.
>> * Fonts and UI can be customised.
>> * Fast!
>> * Under active development.
>> 
>> Cons of MailMate:
>> * Not free, but reasonably priced.
>> * Possibly overkill if you don't have lots of email to process, or a need for
>> the integration with other apps.
> 
> Thanks, that's really helpful. Inching towards a licence, I think...

I'll add another voice in favour of MailMate too. I agree it's expensive but I
value having a good mail client and even contribute to Benny's ongoing
development through a subscription.

My reason for liking it so much was when I first had a Mac in 2003 I used a
application from Barebones that was called MailSmith. I liked it for its very
simple GUI and powerful rules. When I was looking for an IMAP equivalent
MailMate was the closest I could get.

I particularly value that it's a plain text client until one starts typing in
markdown and then it switches over to formatted text.

The plugins in the Commands menu are also pretty powerful to turn emails into
actionable items or even just for a bit of fun to visualise varying aspects of
email history.
-- 
Cheers,

Steve

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#180882

On 16 Apr 2025 at 6:09:10 pm BST, "Steve Hodgson" <hamrun@gmail.com> wrote:

> 
> I'll add another voice in favour of MailMate too. I agree it's expensive but I
> value having a good mail client and even contribute to Benny's ongoing
> development through a subscription.
> 
> My reason for liking it so much was when I first had a Mac in 2003 I used a
> application from Barebones that was called MailSmith. I liked it for its very
> simple GUI and powerful rules. When I was looking for an IMAP equivalent
> MailMate was the closest I could get.
> 
> I particularly value that it's a plain text client until one starts typing in
> markdown and then it switches over to formatted text.
> 
> The plugins in the Commands menu are also pretty powerful to turn emails into
> actionable items or even just for a bit of fun to visualise varying aspects of
> email history.

Thanks Steve. I've made a first subscription payment, so will see how it goes.
Lots to like, as you say, though I need to set aside some time to wrangle a
few things to my liking. Nice to know there are some users here anyway!
-- 
TimH
pull tooth to reply by email

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#180883

TimH <thnews@poboxmolar.com.invalid> wrote:

> Nice to know there are some users here anyway!

This lurker agrees.

-- 
^Ï^.      Sn!pe, PTB, FIBS        My pet rock Gordon just is.

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