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Usenapp curiosity

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First post2025-08-25 13:21 +0000
Last post2025-09-04 13:55 +0100
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  Usenapp curiosity Mark <captain.black@gmail.com> - 2025-08-25 13:21 +0000
    Re: Usenapp curiosity Alan B <alanrichardbarker@gmail.com.invalid> - 2025-08-25 13:41 +0000
      Re: Usenapp curiosity Mark <captain.black@gmail.com> - 2025-08-25 13:53 +0000
    Re: Usenapp curiosity Tyrone <none@none.none> - 2025-08-26 23:15 +0000
      Re: Usenapp curiosity "David B." <DavidB.@nomail.afraid.org> - 2025-08-27 08:18 +0100
      Re: Usenapp curiosity Mark <captain.black@gmail.com> - 2025-09-01 10:23 +0000
        Re: Usenapp curiosity Tyrone <none@none.none> - 2025-09-02 14:05 +0000
          Re: Usenapp curiosity John Hill <watcombeman@yahoo.co.uk> - 2025-09-04 06:54 +0000
            Re: Usenapp curiosity Alan B <alanrichardbarker@gmail.com.invalid> - 2025-09-04 07:27 +0000
            Re: Usenapp curiosity Tyrone <none@none.none> - 2025-09-04 12:43 +0000
              Re: Usenapp curiosity "David B." <BD@hotmail.co.uk> - 2025-09-04 13:55 +0100

#181730 — Usenapp curiosity

FromMark <captain.black@gmail.com>
Date2025-08-25 13:21 +0000
SubjectUsenapp curiosity
Message-ID<OLKiUqGxZzLlYDiyXvFtAIjkdlQoKvvc@news.usenet.farm>
Anyone had issues navigating Usenapp with the arrow keys? Quite often when I
'arrow' up to the next post it'll be blank and I have to 'arrow' down and back
up again to make it show (or use the mouse to click another post then back to
the first one). There are some slight variations to this - I just had to arrow
up from the top-most post to make it show up... This is on an M1 MBA with
latest Sequoia (not last night's update yet), but also on a 2017 MBA with
Monterey. Been happening since I started using Usenapp - maybe 3 or 4 months.

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#181732

FromAlan B <alanrichardbarker@gmail.com.invalid>
Date2025-08-25 13:41 +0000
Message-ID<mh37giFdaf1U1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#181730
On 25 Aug 2025 at 14:21:42 BST, "Mark" <captain.black@gmail.com> wrote:

> Anyone had issues navigating Usenapp with the arrow keys? Quite often when I
> 'arrow' up to the next post it'll be blank and I have to 'arrow' down and back
> up again to make it show (or use the mouse to click another post then back to
> the first one). There are some slight variations to this - I just had to arrow
> up from the top-most post to make it show up... This is on an M1 MBA with
> latest Sequoia (not last night's update yet), but also on a 2017 MBA with
> Monterey. Been happening since I started using Usenapp - maybe 3 or 4 months.

Not seeing it. Using View -> Threads -> Show All Grouped. Just guessing - 
Might be worth experimenting with View options???

-- 
Cheers, Alan

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#181733

FromMark <captain.black@gmail.com>
Date2025-08-25 13:53 +0000
Message-ID<hUxgJoeoFEHTpwJImIuKfdOIkNpRveyF@news.usenet.farm>
In reply to#181732
On 25 Aug 2025 at 2:41:38 PM GMT+1, "Alan B"
<alanrichardbarker@gmail.com.invalid> wrote:

> On 25 Aug 2025 at 14:21:42 BST, "Mark" <captain.black@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> Anyone had issues navigating Usenapp with the arrow keys? Quite often when I
>> 'arrow' up to the next post it'll be blank and I have to 'arrow' down and back
>> up again to make it show (or use the mouse to click another post then back to
>> the first one). There are some slight variations to this - I just had to arrow
>> up from the top-most post to make it show up... This is on an M1 MBA with
>> latest Sequoia (not last night's update yet), but also on a 2017 MBA with
>> Monterey. Been happening since I started using Usenapp - maybe 3 or 4 months.
> 
> Not seeing it. Using View -> Threads -> Show All Grouped. Just guessing -
> Might be worth experimenting with View options???

I'm similar (just ungrouped). Pretty sure it's just a glitch though, as it
doesn't happen all the time, and arrowing/clicking away then back fixes it.
Not really a massive issue though!

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#181764

FromTyrone <none@none.none>
Date2025-08-26 23:15 +0000
Message-ID<RV-dnTn73eNkojP1nZ2dnZfqnPGdnZ2d@supernews.com>
In reply to#181730
On Aug 25, 2025 at 9:21:42 AM EDT, "Mark" <captain.black@gmail.com> wrote:

> Anyone had issues navigating Usenapp with the arrow keys? Quite often when I
> 'arrow' up to the next post it'll be blank and I have to 'arrow' down and back
> up again to make it show (or use the mouse to click another post then back to
> the first one). There are some slight variations to this - I just had to arrow
> up from the top-most post to make it show up... This is on an M1 MBA with
> latest Sequoia (not last night's update yet), but also on a 2017 MBA with
> Monterey. Been happening since I started using Usenapp - maybe 3 or 4 months.

Yes I see this occasionally. Just a spinning "busy" icon and a blank message.
 Going to another message and back fixes it. I assumed it was some kind of
failure to connect to the server. I am using the mouse and not the arrow keys.
 

Certainly not a big deal, just annoying. I see it on this 2014 intel i5 Mac
Mini and on my M2 Mac Book Pro. 

A new M4 Mini is coming in a couple days.   I'm sure I'll see it there too.

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#181765

From"David B." <DavidB.@nomail.afraid.org>
Date2025-08-27 08:18 +0100
Message-ID<mh7pqaF68n8U1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#181764
On 27/08/2025 00:15, Tyrone wrote:
> On Aug 25, 2025 at 9:21:42 AM EDT, "Mark" <captain.black@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> Anyone had issues navigating Usenapp with the arrow keys? Quite often when I
>> 'arrow' up to the next post it'll be blank and I have to 'arrow' down and back
>> up again to make it show (or use the mouse to click another post then back to
>> the first one). There are some slight variations to this - I just had to arrow
>> up from the top-most post to make it show up... This is on an M1 MBA with
>> latest Sequoia (not last night's update yet), but also on a 2017 MBA with
>> Monterey. Been happening since I started using Usenapp - maybe 3 or 4 months.
> 
> Yes I see this occasionally. Just a spinning "busy" icon and a blank message.
>   Going to another message and back fixes it. I assumed it was some kind of
> failure to connect to the server. I am using the mouse and not the arrow keys.
>   
> 
> Certainly not a big deal, just annoying. I see it on this 2014 intel i5 Mac
> Mini and on my M2 Mac Book Pro.
> 
> A new M4 Mini is coming in a couple days.   I'm sure I'll see it there too.


Have you, or anyone else, raised this matter here?

https://www.usenapp.com/forum/

Must be worth a try!

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#181794

FromMark <captain.black@gmail.com>
Date2025-09-01 10:23 +0000
Message-ID<MFvwVGWMxNbUiksFZClQzaqkucWsIgmM@news.usenet.farm>
In reply to#181764
On 27 Aug 2025 at 12:15:05 AM GMT+1, "Tyrone" <none@none.none> wrote:

> On Aug 25, 2025 at 9:21:42 AM EDT, "Mark" <captain.black@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> Anyone had issues navigating Usenapp with the arrow keys? Quite often when I
>> 'arrow' up to the next post it'll be blank and I have to 'arrow' down and back
>> up again to make it show (or use the mouse to click another post then back to
>> the first one). There are some slight variations to this - I just had to arrow
>> up from the top-most post to make it show up... This is on an M1 MBA with
>> latest Sequoia (not last night's update yet), but also on a 2017 MBA with
>> Monterey. Been happening since I started using Usenapp - maybe 3 or 4 months.
> 
> Yes I see this occasionally. Just a spinning "busy" icon and a blank message.
>  Going to another message and back fixes it. I assumed it was some kind of
> failure to connect to the server. I am using the mouse and not the arrow keys.
> 
> 
> Certainly not a big deal, just annoying. I see it on this 2014 intel i5 Mac
> Mini and on my M2 Mac Book Pro.
> 
> A new M4 Mini is coming in a couple days.   I'm sure I'll see it there too.

HA Just saw it agin on this post. I was on the one below, then 'up-arrowed' to
a blank message with the spinny thing. I waited a couple of seconds then went
down then up again and it showed. Funny thing - I've previosly seen this post
so assume t should be already downloaded.

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#181801

FromTyrone <none@none.none>
Date2025-09-02 14:05 +0000
Message-ID<4fCcnfXL7P0AZCv1nZ2dnZfqnPGdnZ2d@supernews.com>
In reply to#181794
On Sep 1, 2025 at 6:23:55 AM EDT, "Mark" <captain.black@gmail.com> wrote:

> On 27 Aug 2025 at 12:15:05 AM GMT+1, "Tyrone" <none@none.none> wrote:
> 
>> On Aug 25, 2025 at 9:21:42 AM EDT, "Mark" <captain.black@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> Anyone had issues navigating Usenapp with the arrow keys? Quite often when I
>>> 'arrow' up to the next post it'll be blank and I have to 'arrow' down and back
>>> up again to make it show (or use the mouse to click another post then back to
>>> the first one). There are some slight variations to this - I just had to arrow
>>> up from the top-most post to make it show up... This is on an M1 MBA with
>>> latest Sequoia (not last night's update yet), but also on a 2017 MBA with
>>> Monterey. Been happening since I started using Usenapp - maybe 3 or 4 months.
>> 
>> Yes I see this occasionally. Just a spinning "busy" icon and a blank message.
>>  Going to another message and back fixes it. I assumed it was some kind of
>> failure to connect to the server. I am using the mouse and not the arrow keys.
>> 
>> 
>> Certainly not a big deal, just annoying. I see it on this 2014 intel i5 Mac
>> Mini and on my M2 Mac Book Pro.
>> 
>> A new M4 Mini is coming in a couple days.   I'm sure I'll see it there too.
> 
> HA Just saw it agin on this post. I was on the one below, then 'up-arrowed' to
> a blank message with the spinny thing. I waited a couple of seconds then went
> down then up again and it showed. Funny thing - I've previosly seen this post
> so assume t should be already downloaded.

I am seeing this issue on the new M4 Mini I mentioned above. I have been using
Usenapp for a couple years and this issue is fairly recent. Probably needs an
update to deal with something that changed in MacOS.

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#181813

FromJohn Hill <watcombeman@yahoo.co.uk>
Date2025-09-04 06:54 +0000
Message-ID<109bd3j$1k5qc$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#181801
On 2 Sep 2025 at 15:05:17 BST, "Tyrone" <none@none.none> wrote:

> On Sep 1, 2025 at 6:23:55 AM EDT, "Mark" <captain.black@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> On 27 Aug 2025 at 12:15:05 AM GMT+1, "Tyrone" <none@none.none> wrote:
>> 
>>> On Aug 25, 2025 at 9:21:42 AM EDT, "Mark" <captain.black@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Anyone had issues navigating Usenapp with the arrow keys? Quite often when I
>>>> 'arrow' up to the next post it'll be blank and I have to 'arrow' down and back
>>>> up again to make it show (or use the mouse to click another post then back to
>>>> the first one). There are some slight variations to this - I just had to arrow
>>>> up from the top-most post to make it show up... This is on an M1 MBA with
>>>> latest Sequoia (not last night's update yet), but also on a 2017 MBA with
>>>> Monterey. Been happening since I started using Usenapp - maybe 3 or 4 months.
>>> 
>>> Yes I see this occasionally. Just a spinning "busy" icon and a blank message.
>>>  Going to another message and back fixes it. I assumed it was some kind of
>>> failure to connect to the server. I am using the mouse and not the arrow keys.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Certainly not a big deal, just annoying. I see it on this 2014 intel i5 Mac
>>> Mini and on my M2 Mac Book Pro.
>>> 
>>> A new M4 Mini is coming in a couple days.   I'm sure I'll see it there too.
>> 
>> HA Just saw it agin on this post. I was on the one below, then 'up-arrowed' to
>> a blank message with the spinny thing. I waited a couple of seconds then went
>> down then up again and it showed. Funny thing - I've previosly seen this post
>> so assume t should be already downloaded.
> 
> I am seeing this issue on the new M4 Mini I mentioned above. I have been using
> Usenapp for a couple years and this issue is fairly recent. Probably needs an
> update to deal with something that changed in MacOS.

I have not seen this IM4 iMac), but then I don't use arrow keys that much.

But has anyone raised this on the Usenapp Forum or by an email to Support?

Old John.
-- 
An infinitely complex system can fail in an infinite number of ways.

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#181816

FromAlan B <alanrichardbarker@gmail.com.invalid>
Date2025-09-04 07:27 +0000
Message-ID<109bf1j$1kj70$1@notronniebarker.dont-email.me>
In reply to#181813
On Thu, 4 Sep 2025 06:54:43 -0000 (UTC), John Hill wrote:

> On 2 Sep 2025 at 15:05:17 BST, "Tyrone" <none@none.none> wrote:
> 
>> On Sep 1, 2025 at 6:23:55 AM EDT, "Mark" <captain.black@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> On 27 Aug 2025 at 12:15:05 AM GMT+1, "Tyrone" <none@none.none> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> On Aug 25, 2025 at 9:21:42 AM EDT, "Mark" <captain.black@gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Anyone had issues navigating Usenapp with the arrow keys? Quite
>>>>> often when I 'arrow' up to the next post it'll be blank and I have
>>>>> to 'arrow' down and back up again to make it show (or use the mouse
>>>>> to click another post then back to the first one). There are some
>>>>> slight variations to this - I just had to arrow up from the top-most
>>>>> post to make it show up... This is on an M1 MBA with latest Sequoia
>>>>> (not last night's update yet), but also on a 2017 MBA with Monterey.
>>>>> Been happening since I started using Usenapp - maybe 3 or 4 months.
>>>> 
>>>> Yes I see this occasionally. Just a spinning "busy" icon and a blank
>>>> message.
>>>>  Going to another message and back fixes it. I assumed it was some
>>>>  kind of
>>>> failure to connect to the server. I am using the mouse and not the
>>>> arrow keys.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Certainly not a big deal, just annoying. I see it on this 2014 intel
>>>> i5 Mac Mini and on my M2 Mac Book Pro.
>>>> 
>>>> A new M4 Mini is coming in a couple days.   I'm sure I'll see it
>>>> there too.
>>> 
>>> HA Just saw it agin on this post. I was on the one below, then
>>> 'up-arrowed' to a blank message with the spinny thing. I waited a
>>> couple of seconds then went down then up again and it showed. Funny
>>> thing - I've previosly seen this post so assume t should be already
>>> downloaded.
>> 
>> I am seeing this issue on the new M4 Mini I mentioned above. I have
>> been using Usenapp for a couple years and this issue is fairly recent.
>> Probably needs an update to deal with something that changed in MacOS.
> 
> I have not seen this IM4 iMac), but then I don't use arrow keys that
> much.

Same here, I've  not seen it at all.

> But has anyone raised this on the Usenapp Forum or by an email to
> Support?

André is usually pretty quick at answering any queries.

-- 
Cheers, Alan

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#181822

FromTyrone <none@none.none>
Date2025-09-04 12:43 +0000
Message-ID<Iv2dnelTdo_jFCT1nZ2dnZfqnPednZ2d@supernews.com>
In reply to#181813
On Sep 4, 2025 at 2:54:43 AM EDT, "John Hill" <watcombeman@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:

> On 2 Sep 2025 at 15:05:17 BST, "Tyrone" <none@none.none> wrote:
> 
>> On Sep 1, 2025 at 6:23:55 AM EDT, "Mark" <captain.black@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> On 27 Aug 2025 at 12:15:05 AM GMT+1, "Tyrone" <none@none.none> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> On Aug 25, 2025 at 9:21:42 AM EDT, "Mark" <captain.black@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Anyone had issues navigating Usenapp with the arrow keys? Quite often when I
>>>>> 'arrow' up to the next post it'll be blank and I have to 'arrow' down and back
>>>>> up again to make it show (or use the mouse to click another post then back to
>>>>> the first one). There are some slight variations to this - I just had to arrow
>>>>> up from the top-most post to make it show up... This is on an M1 MBA with
>>>>> latest Sequoia (not last night's update yet), but also on a 2017 MBA with
>>>>> Monterey. Been happening since I started using Usenapp - maybe 3 or 4 months.
>>>> 
>>>> Yes I see this occasionally. Just a spinning "busy" icon and a blank message.
>>>>  Going to another message and back fixes it. I assumed it was some kind of
>>>> failure to connect to the server. I am using the mouse and not the arrow keys.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Certainly not a big deal, just annoying. I see it on this 2014 intel i5 Mac
>>>> Mini and on my M2 Mac Book Pro.
>>>> 
>>>> A new M4 Mini is coming in a couple days.   I'm sure I'll see it there too.
>>> 
>>> HA Just saw it agin on this post. I was on the one below, then 'up-arrowed' to
>>> a blank message with the spinny thing. I waited a couple of seconds then went
>>> down then up again and it showed. Funny thing - I've previosly seen this post
>>> so assume t should be already downloaded.
>> 
>> I am seeing this issue on the new M4 Mini I mentioned above. I have been using
>> Usenapp for a couple years and this issue is fairly recent. Probably needs an
>> update to deal with something that changed in MacOS.
> 
> I have not seen this IM4 iMac), but then I don't use arrow keys that much.

I'm not using the arrow keys either. The problem is with simply going to the
next message, regardless of how you do it.

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#181823

From"David B." <BD@hotmail.co.uk>
Date2025-09-04 13:55 +0100
Message-ID<mhtgioFpormU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#181822
On 04/09/2025 13:43, Tyrone wrote:
> On Sep 4, 2025 at 2:54:43 AM EDT, "John Hill" <watcombeman@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> 
>> On 2 Sep 2025 at 15:05:17 BST, "Tyrone" <none@none.none> wrote:
>>
>>> On Sep 1, 2025 at 6:23:55 AM EDT, "Mark" <captain.black@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 27 Aug 2025 at 12:15:05 AM GMT+1, "Tyrone" <none@none.none> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Aug 25, 2025 at 9:21:42 AM EDT, "Mark" <captain.black@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Anyone had issues navigating Usenapp with the arrow keys? Quite often when I
>>>>>> 'arrow' up to the next post it'll be blank and I have to 'arrow' down and back
>>>>>> up again to make it show (or use the mouse to click another post then back to
>>>>>> the first one). There are some slight variations to this - I just had to arrow
>>>>>> up from the top-most post to make it show up... This is on an M1 MBA with
>>>>>> latest Sequoia (not last night's update yet), but also on a 2017 MBA with
>>>>>> Monterey. Been happening since I started using Usenapp - maybe 3 or 4 months.
>>>>>
>>>>> Yes I see this occasionally. Just a spinning "busy" icon and a blank message.
>>>>>   Going to another message and back fixes it. I assumed it was some kind of
>>>>> failure to connect to the server. I am using the mouse and not the arrow keys.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Certainly not a big deal, just annoying. I see it on this 2014 intel i5 Mac
>>>>> Mini and on my M2 Mac Book Pro.
>>>>>
>>>>> A new M4 Mini is coming in a couple days.   I'm sure I'll see it there too.
>>>>
>>>> HA Just saw it agin on this post. I was on the one below, then 'up-arrowed' to
>>>> a blank message with the spinny thing. I waited a couple of seconds then went
>>>> down then up again and it showed. Funny thing - I've previosly seen this post
>>>> so assume t should be already downloaded.
>>>
>>> I am seeing this issue on the new M4 Mini I mentioned above. I have been using
>>> Usenapp for a couple years and this issue is fairly recent. Probably needs an
>>> update to deal with something that changed in MacOS.
>>
>> I have not seen this IM4 iMac), but then I don't use arrow keys that much.
> 
> I'm not using the arrow keys either. The problem is with simply going to the
> next message, regardless of how you do it.

You aren't daft!  Please have a look at this:-
https://al.howardknight.net/?ID=175699011000

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