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How To Type Special Keyboard Symbols On Mac

Started byDavid_B <DavidB@nomail.afraid.org>
First post2020-08-09 08:13 +0100
Last post2020-08-20 17:55 +0000
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  How To Type Special Keyboard Symbols On Mac David_B <DavidB@nomail.afraid.org> - 2020-08-09 08:13 +0100
    Re: How To Type Special Keyboard Symbols On Mac Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2020-08-09 08:16 +0000
      Re: How To Type Special Keyboard Symbols On Mac David_B <DavidB@nomail.afraid.org> - 2020-08-09 09:59 +0100
        Re: How To Type Special Keyboard Symbols On Mac Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2020-08-09 19:03 +0000
          Re: How To Type Special Keyboard Symbols On Mac Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2020-08-09 20:05 +0000
            Re: How To Type Special Keyboard Symbols On Mac David_B <DavidB@nomail.afraid.org> - 2020-08-10 22:33 +0100
              Re: How To Type Special Keyboard Symbols On Mac Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2020-08-11 10:02 +1200
                Re: How To Type Special Keyboard Symbols On Mac Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2020-08-10 22:11 +0000
                Re: How To Type Special Keyboard Symbols On Mac David_B <DavidB@nomail.afraid.org> - 2020-08-11 09:32 +0100
                  Re: How To Type Special Keyboard Symbols On Mac Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2020-08-12 09:58 +1200
                    Re: How To Type Special Keyboard Symbols On Mac Bud Frede <frede@mouse-potato.com> - 2020-08-16 08:35 -0400
              Re: How To Type Special Keyboard Symbols On Mac Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2020-08-10 22:10 +0000
                Re: How To Type Special Keyboard Symbols On Mac David_B <DavidB@nomail.afraid.org> - 2020-08-11 09:24 +0100
                  Re: How To Type Special Keyboard Symbols On Mac Graham J <nobody@nowhere.co.uk> - 2020-08-11 09:28 +0100
                    Re: How To Type Special Keyboard Symbols On Mac David_B <DavidB@nomail.afraid.org> - 2020-08-11 09:36 +0100
                      Re: How To Type Special Keyboard Symbols On Mac John Hill <watcombeman@yahoo.co.uk> - 2020-08-12 09:07 +0000
                      Re: How To Type Special Keyboard Symbols On Mac bob <email@domain.com> - 2020-08-12 14:04 +0200
                    Re: How To Type Special Keyboard Symbols On Mac Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2020-08-12 09:50 +1200
                    Re: How To Type Special Keyboard Symbols On Mac Bud Frede <frede@mouse-potato.com> - 2020-08-16 08:33 -0400
              Re: How To Type Special Keyboard Symbols On Mac Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2020-08-11 17:10 +0000
                Re: How To Type Special Keyboard Symbols On Mac Wolffan <akwolffan@zoho.com> - 2020-08-11 15:33 -0400
                  Re: How To Type Special Keyboard Symbols On Mac David_B <DavidB@nomail.afraid.org> - 2020-08-12 13:09 +0100
                    Re: How To Type Special Keyboard Symbols On Mac Wolffan <akwolffan@zoho.com> - 2020-08-12 08:30 -0400
                      Re: How To Type Special Keyboard Symbols On Mac Wolffan <akwolffan@zoho.com> - 2020-08-19 19:26 -0400
                Re: How To Type Special Keyboard Symbols On Mac David_B <DavidB@nomail.afraid.org> - 2020-08-12 13:07 +0100
                  Re: How To Type Special Keyboard Symbols On Mac Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2020-08-12 15:17 +0000
                    Re: How To Type Special Keyboard Symbols On Mac Wolffan <akwolffan@zoho.com> - 2020-08-12 14:38 -0400
    Re: How To Type Special Keyboard Symbols On Mac Alan Baker <notonyourlife@no.no.no.no> - 2020-08-19 16:48 -0700
      Re: How To Type Special Keyboard Symbols On Mac Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2020-08-20 12:56 +1200
      Re: How To Type Special Keyboard Symbols On Mac David_B <DavidB@nomail.afraid.org> - 2020-08-20 09:27 +0100
        Re: How To Type Special Keyboard Symbols On Mac Wolffan <akwolffan@zoho.com> - 2020-08-20 07:13 -0400
        Re: How To Type Special Keyboard Symbols On Mac Panthera Tigris Altaica <northerntiger@outlook.com> - 2020-08-20 09:20 -0400
          Re: How To Type Special Keyboard Symbols On Mac David_B <DavidB@nomail.afraid.org> - 2020-08-20 22:02 +0100
            Re: How To Type Special Keyboard Symbols On Mac Wolffan <akwolffan@zoho.com> - 2020-08-20 17:11 -0400
              Re: How To Type Special Keyboard Symbols On Mac nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2020-08-20 17:19 -0400
              Re: How To Type Special Keyboard Symbols On Mac David_B <DavidB@nomail.afraid.org> - 2020-08-21 00:03 +0100
                Re: How To Type Special Keyboard Symbols On Mac Wolffan <akwolffan@zoho.com> - 2020-08-20 19:21 -0400
                Re: How To Type Special Keyboard Symbols On Mac Panthera Tigris <northerntiger@outlook.com> - 2020-10-09 08:03 -0400
            Re: How To Type Special Keyboard Symbols On Mac Panthera Tigris <northerntiger@outlook.com> - 2020-08-21 07:34 -0400
        Re: How To Type Special Keyboard Symbols On Mac John Hill <watcombeman@yahoo.co.uk> - 2020-08-20 17:55 +0000

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#146193

FromWolffan <akwolffan@zoho.com>
Date2020-08-11 15:33 -0400
Message-ID<0001HW.24E329FC02DEB9D770000131538F@news.supernews.com>
In reply to#146190
On 11 Aug 2020, Jolly Roger wrote
(in article <hpg1ogFch9rU1@mid.individual.net>):

> On 2020-08-10, David_B<DavidB@nomail.afraid.org>  wrote:
> > On 09/08/2020 21:05, Snit wrote:
> > > On Aug 9, 2020 at 12:03:06 PM MST, "Snit"<usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
> > > wrote:
> > > > On Aug 9, 2020 at 1:59:38 AM MST, "David_B"<DavidB@nomail.afraid.org>
> > > > wrote:
> > > > > On 09/08/2020 09:16, Snit wrote:
> > > > > > David_B <DavidB@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
> > > > > > > Most readers here probably know already but, just in case some don't,
> > > > > > > there's a comprehensive summary here:-
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > https://setapp.com/how-to/type-special-keyboard-symbols-on-mac
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > It's always good to have a reminder anyway!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > As an addition to that: any System Service you have that shows up in the
> > > > > > Application >  Services menu can be given a custom hotkey the same way.
> > > > >
> > > > > Please will you show me that?
> > > >
> > > > I might make a video of it if needed, but here is one example:
> > > >
> > > > [snip]
> >
> > Thanks for showing me that. I've no idea WHY you'd want to be doing that
> > though! ;-)
>
> You literally *asked* him to show you three lines up, dipshit.

Troll-boy Brooks ‘forgets’ alot.

It’s all that alcohol he imbibes, it screws up the function of his one 
remaining brain cell even more than that poor thing already is.

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#146200

FromDavid_B <DavidB@nomail.afraid.org>
Date2020-08-12 13:09 +0100
Message-ID<j_QYG.272650$vLb.166525@fx43.ams1>
In reply to#146193
Wolffan is a *LIAR* :-(

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#146201

FromWolffan <akwolffan@zoho.com>
Date2020-08-12 08:30 -0400
Message-ID<0001HW.24E4187900126DF570000244F38F@news.supernews.com>
In reply to#146200
On 12 Aug 2020, David_B wrote
(in article <j_QYG.272650$vLb.166525@fx43.ams1>):

> Wolffan is a *LIAR* :-(

Nope. You merely don’t like it when I expose you for what you are.

Has Supernews got back to you yet, troll-boy?

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#146256

FromWolffan <akwolffan@zoho.com>
Date2020-08-19 19:26 -0400
Message-ID<0001HW.24EDEC9000BA985470000DE2438F@news.supernews.com>
In reply to#146201
On 12 Aug 2020, Wolffan wrote
(in article<0001HW.24E4187900126DF570000244F38F@news.supernews.com>):

> On 12 Aug 2020, David_B wrote
> (in article <j_QYG.272650$vLb.166525@fx43.ams1>):
>
> > Wolffan is a *LIAR* :-(
>
> Nope. You merely don’t like it when I expose you for what you are.
>
> Has Supernews got back to you yet, troll-boy?

Ah. I see. Troll-boy posted a _binary_ to a _text-only_ newsgroup, _knowing_ 
that most newsfeeds strip binaries. He’s been told as much several times, 
including at least twice by me. He didn’t want me to see his reply... Damn, 
he’s an idiot.

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#146199

FromDavid_B <DavidB@nomail.afraid.org>
Date2020-08-12 13:07 +0100
Message-ID<yYQYG.272649$vLb.161042@fx43.ams1>
In reply to#146190
On 11/08/2020 18:10, Jolly Roger wrote:
> On 2020-08-10, David_B <DavidB@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
>> On 09/08/2020 21:05, Snit wrote:
>>> On Aug 9, 2020 at 12:03:06 PM MST, "Snit" <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>> On Aug 9, 2020 at 1:59:38 AM MST, "David_B" <DavidB@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
>>>>> On 09/08/2020 09:16, Snit wrote:
>>>>>> David_B <DavidB@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
>>>>>>> Most readers here probably know already but, just in case some don't,
>>>>>>> there's a comprehensive summary here:-
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> https://setapp.com/how-to/type-special-keyboard-symbols-on-mac
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It's always good to have a reminder anyway!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> As an addition to that: any System Service you have that shows up in the
>>>>>> Application > Services menu can be given a custom hotkey the same way.
>>>>>
>>>>> Please will you show me that?
>>>>
>>>> I might make a video of it if needed, but here is one example:
>>>>
>>>> [snip]
>>
>> Thanks for showing me that. I've no idea WHY you'd want to be doing that
>> though! ;-)
> 
> You literally *asked* him to show you three lines up, David.

The good news is that Snit had no need to make a video after all! :-D


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#146202

FromJolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com>
Date2020-08-12 15:17 +0000
Message-ID<hpiffqFs5skU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#146199
On 2020-08-12, David_B <DavidB@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
> On 11/08/2020 18:10, Jolly Roger wrote:
>> On 2020-08-10, David_B <DavidB@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
>>> On 09/08/2020 21:05, Snit wrote:
>>>> On Aug 9, 2020 at 12:03:06 PM MST, "Snit" <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>> On Aug 9, 2020 at 1:59:38 AM MST, "David_B" <DavidB@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
>>>>>> On 09/08/2020 09:16, Snit wrote:
>>>>>>> David_B <DavidB@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>> Most readers here probably know already but, just in case some don't,
>>>>>>>> there's a comprehensive summary here:-
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> https://setapp.com/how-to/type-special-keyboard-symbols-on-mac
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> It's always good to have a reminder anyway!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> As an addition to that: any System Service you have that shows up in the
>>>>>>> Application > Services menu can be given a custom hotkey the same way.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Please will you show me that?
>>>>>
>>>>> I might make a video of it if needed, but here is one example:
>>>>>
>>>>> [snip]
>>>
>>> Thanks for showing me that. I've no idea WHY you'd want to be doing that
>>> though! ;-)
>> 
>> You literally *asked* him to show you three lines up, dipshit.
>
> The good news is that Snit had no need to make a video after all! :-D

You're an idiot.

-- 
E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my ravenous SPAM filter.
I often ignore posts from Google. Use a real news client instead.

JR

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#146203

FromWolffan <akwolffan@zoho.com>
Date2020-08-12 14:38 -0400
Message-ID<0001HW.24E46E9C00269E5070000244F38F@news.supernews.com>
In reply to#146202
On 12 Aug 2020, Jolly Roger wrote
(in article <hpiffqFs5skU1@mid.individual.net>):

> On 2020-08-12, David_B<DavidB@nomail.afraid.org>  wrote:
> > On 11/08/2020 18:10, Jolly Roger wrote:
> > > On 2020-08-10, David_B<DavidB@nomail.afraid.org>  wrote:
> > > > On 09/08/2020 21:05, Snit wrote:
> > > > > On Aug 9, 2020 at 12:03:06 PM MST, "Snit"<usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > On Aug 9, 2020 at 1:59:38 AM MST, "David_B"<DavidB@nomail.afraid.org>
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > On 09/08/2020 09:16, Snit wrote:
> > > > > > > > David_B <DavidB@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > Most readers here probably know already but, just in case some don't,
> > > > > > > > > there's a comprehensive summary here:-
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > https://setapp.com/how-to/type-special-keyboard-symbols-on-mac
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > It's always good to have a reminder anyway!
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > As an addition to that: any System Service you have that shows up in
> > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > Application >  Services menu can be given a custom hotkey the same
> > > > > > > > way.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Please will you show me that?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I might make a video of it if needed, but here is one example:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > [snip]
> > > >
> > > > Thanks for showing me that. I've no idea WHY you'd want to be doing that
> > > > though! ;-)
> > >
> > > You literally *asked* him to show you three lines up, dipshit.
> >
> > The good news is that Snit had no need to make a video after all! :-D
>
> You're an idiot.

This has been clear for a very long time.

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#146257

FromAlan Baker <notonyourlife@no.no.no.no>
Date2020-08-19 16:48 -0700
Message-ID<rhkdp4$27s$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#146151
On 2020-08-09 12:13 a.m., David_B wrote:
> Most readers here probably know already but, just in case some don't, 
> there's a comprehensive summary here:-
> 
> https://setapp.com/how-to/type-special-keyboard-symbols-on-mac
> 
> It's always good to have a reminder anyway!

Except...

...just like you all the time...

...they get basic facts wrong:

'Similarly, a degree symbol on Mac (º) is Option + Zero'

That is simply wrong.

The degree symbol is Option-Shift-8: "°"

The Option-0 combination looks very similar: "º", but it is actually the 
"masculine ordinal indicator" (i.e. 1º for "first") in languages such as 
Spanish, Portugese, Italian...

There is also a feminine ordinal indicator: "ª"...

...and the key combination is Option-9

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#146258

FromYour Name <YourName@YourISP.com>
Date2020-08-20 12:56 +1200
Message-ID<rhkhob$1nb8$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#146257
On 2020-08-19 23:48:49 +0000, Alan Baker said:

> On 2020-08-09 12:13 a.m., David_B wrote:
>> Most readers here probably know already but, just in case some don't, 
>> there's a comprehensive summary here:-
>> 
>> https://setapp.com/how-to/type-special-keyboard-symbols-on-mac
>> 
>> It's always good to have a reminder anyway!
> 
> Except...
> 
> ...just like you all the time...
> 
> ...they get basic facts wrong:
> 
> 'Similarly, a degree symbol on Mac (º) is Option + Zero'
> 
> That is simply wrong.
> 
> The degree symbol is Option-Shift-8: "°"
> 
> The Option-0 combination looks very similar: "º", but it is actually 
> the "masculine ordinal indicator" (i.e. 1º for "first") in languages 
> such as Spanish, Portugese, Italian...
> 
> There is also a feminine ordinal indicator: "ª"...
> 
> ...and the key combination is Option-9

Yep. Option-zero is basically a superscript letter O, which can look a 
bit fancy in some fonts, for example thicker on the sides and thinner 
on the top and bottom. The shift-option-8 degrees symbol is simply a 
plain circle in every font (or at least those it is defined in). The 
difference can easily be seen by using a font size like 120pt in a 
serif font such as Palatino.

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#146259

FromDavid_B <DavidB@nomail.afraid.org>
Date2020-08-20 09:27 +0100
Message-ID<kuq%G.45743$cv1.34548@fx01.ams1>
In reply to#146257
On 20/08/2020 00:48, Alan Baker wrote:
> On 2020-08-09 12:13 a.m., David_B wrote:
>> Most readers here probably know already but, just in case some don't, 
>> there's a comprehensive summary here:-
>>
>> https://setapp.com/how-to/type-special-keyboard-symbols-on-mac
>>
>> It's always good to have a reminder anyway!
> 
> Except...
> 
> ...just like you all the time...
> 
> ...they get basic facts wrong:
> 
> 'Similarly, a degree symbol on Mac (º) is Option + Zero'
> 
> That is simply wrong.
> 
> The degree symbol is Option-Shift-8: "°"
> 
> The Option-0 combination looks very similar: "º", but it is actually the 
> "masculine ordinal indicator" (i.e. 1º for "first") in languages such as 
> Spanish, Portugese, Italian...
> 
> There is also a feminine ordinal indicator: "ª"...
> 
> ...and the key combination is Option-9


I posted in good faith, Alan. :-(

I expect you've already written to the originator to point out their 
errors. That's what a good guy would do! ;-)

On a different subject ...

*Supernews says Wolffan is not one of their customers*.
I received an email this morning advising me of that fact.

Can you tell that Wolffan's header has been forged?

Here’s the header of one of his recent posts:-


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On 18 Aug 2020, David_B wrote
(in article <V0Y_G.97031$8b2.89984@fx07.ams1>):

 > On 18/08/2020 19:13, Snit wrote:
 > > On Aug 18, 2020 at 10:17:06 AM MST, "Wolffan" <akwolffan@zoho.com> 
wrote:
 > >
 > > > On 17 Aug 2020, David_B wrote
 > > > (in article <E9C_G.337814$F86.40648@fx36.ams1>):
 > > >
 > > > > -
 > > > > David_B.
 > > > > Group Moderator
 > > >
 > > > You cannot be the moderator, as a.c.w is not a moderated group. 
This has
 > > > been
 > > >
 > > > pointed out to you before. Nop doubt your high alcohol intake 
made you
 > > > ‘forget’ again, troll-boy.
 > >
 > > If you keep saying that he will ban you.
 >
 > I will!

you can’t, troll-boy.


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#146263

FromWolffan <akwolffan@zoho.com>
Date2020-08-20 07:13 -0400
Message-ID<0001HW.24EE926600E1769570000E3C538F@news.supernews.com>
In reply to#146259
On 20 Aug 2020, David_B wrote
(in article <kuq%G.45743$cv1.34548@fx01.ams1>):

> On 20/08/2020 00:48, Alan Baker wrote:
> > On 2020-08-09 12:13 a.m., David_B wrote:
> > > Most readers here probably know already but, just in case some don't,
> > > there's a comprehensive summary here:-
> > >
> > > https://setapp.com/how-to/type-special-keyboard-symbols-on-mac
> > >
> > > It's always good to have a reminder anyway!
> >
> > Except...
> >
> > ...just like you all the time...
> >
> > ...they get basic facts wrong:
> >
> > 'Similarly, a degree symbol on Mac (º) is Option + Zero'
> >
> > That is simply wrong.
> >
> > The degree symbol is Option-Shift-8: "°"
> >
> > The Option-0 combination looks very similar: "º", but it is actually the
> > "masculine ordinal indicator" (i.e. 1º for "first") in languages such as
> > Spanish, Portugese, Italian...
> >
> > There is also a feminine ordinal indicator: "ª"...
> >
> > ...and the key combination is Option-9
>
> I posted in good faith, Alan. :-(

you posted in your usual idiotic way. You posted without thinking, as your 
one remaining neuron is too alcohol-soaked to work properly. You posted 
without checking, which would have taken mere seconds. You posted damn 
foolishness, because you’re a damn fool.
>
>
> I expect you've already written to the originator to point out their
> errors. That's what a good guy would do! ;-)
>
> On a different subject ...
>
> *Supernews says Wolffan is not one of their customers*.

ooh, yes I am. Someone’s lying, and I suspect it ain’t Supernews.

Hint: do you really think that I pay the monthly bill using a credit card 
with ‘Wolffan’ on it? Are you actually that stupid? Oh. Wait. It’s
_you_. You are that stupid.

>
> I received an email this morning advising me of that fact.
>
> Can you tell that Wolffan's header has been forged?

Good luck with that, as it’s not forged. Damn, you’re an idiot.

If Supernews wanted to, they could track down which account created a post 
with those headers. It wouldn’t even be difficult for them. There’s no 
way that they’d spend _three weeks_ on it and then fail to see which 
account did it. You’re just lying, again, because Supernews told you that 
your pathetic attempt to shut me up wouldn’t fly.
>
>
> Here’s the header of one of his recent posts:-
>
> Path: not-for-mail
> NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 18 Aug 2020 16:53:24 -0500
> Date: Tue, 18 Aug 2020 17:53:24 -0400
> From: Wolffan <akwolffan@zoho.com>
> Organization: The Pack
> Mime-Version: 1.0
> User-Agent: Hogwasher/5.24
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
> Message-ID:<0001HW.24EC8554006665A570000E44838F@news.supernews.com>
> Subject: Re: Apple software uninstall
> Newsgroups: alt.computer.workshop
> References: <wOp_G.273094$dTb.253634@fx41.ams1>
> <0001HW.24EA9AEA0084C9F0700005E3638F@news.supernews.com>
> <rhe3ep$eb0$1@gioia.aioe.org><E9C_G.337814$F86.40648@fx36.ams1>
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> On 18 Aug 2020, David_B wrote
> (in article <V0Y_G.97031$8b2.89984@fx07.ams1>):
>
> > On 18/08/2020 19:13, Snit wrote:
> > > On Aug 18, 2020 at 10:17:06 AM MST, "Wolffan"<akwolffan@zoho.com>
> wrote:
> > >
> > > > On 17 Aug 2020, David_B wrote
> > > > (in article<E9C_G.337814$F86.40648@fx36.ams1>):
> > > >
> > > > > -
> > > > > David_B.
> > > > > Group Moderator
> > > >
> > > > You cannot be the moderator, as a.c.w is not a moderated group.
> This has
> > > > been
> > > >
> > > > pointed out to you before. Nop doubt your high alcohol intake
> made you
> > > > ‘forget’ again, troll-boy.
> > >
> > > If you keep saying that he will ban you.
> >
> > I will!
>
> you can’t, troll-boy.

and you still can’t, troll-boy.

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#146266

FromPanthera Tigris Altaica <northerntiger@outlook.com>
Date2020-08-20 09:20 -0400
Message-ID<rhlt5c$5ur$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#146259
On 2020-08-20 04:27, David_B wrote:
> On 20/08/2020 00:48, Alan Baker wrote:
>> On 2020-08-09 12:13 a.m., David_B wrote:
>>> Most readers here probably know already but, just in case some don't, 
>>> there's a comprehensive summary here:-
>>>
>>> https://setapp.com/how-to/type-special-keyboard-symbols-on-mac
>>>
>>> It's always good to have a reminder anyway!
>>
>> Except...
>>
>> ...just like you all the time...
>>
>> ...they get basic facts wrong:
>>
>> 'Similarly, a degree symbol on Mac (º) is Option + Zero'
>>
>> That is simply wrong.
>>
>> The degree symbol is Option-Shift-8: "°"
>>
>> The Option-0 combination looks very similar: "º", but it is actually 
>> the "masculine ordinal indicator" (i.e. 1º for "first") in languages 
>> such as Spanish, Portugese, Italian...
>>
>> There is also a feminine ordinal indicator: "ª"...
>>
>> ...and the key combination is Option-9
> 
> 
> I posted in good faith, Alan. :-(

You posted grossly incorrect information, in large part because you do 
not do proper due diligence before posting.

> 
> I expect you've already written to the originator to point out their 
> errors. That's what a good guy would do! ;-)
> 
> On a different subject ...
> 
> *Supernews says Wolffan is not one of their customers*.
> I received an email this morning advising me of that fact.
> 
> Can you tell that Wolffan's header has been forged?

If Supernews really thought that Wolffan had forged headers they would 
take active measures to do something about it. That they haven't, 
despite your making your initial complaint three weeks ago, speaks volumes.

> 
> Here’s the header of one of his recent posts:-
> 
> 
> Path: not-for-mail
> NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 18 Aug 2020 16:53:24 -0500
> Date: Tue, 18 Aug 2020 17:53:24 -0400
> From: Wolffan <akwolffan@zoho.com>
> Organization: The Pack
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Which header or headers do you think are forged, and why do you think so?

> 
> On 18 Aug 2020, David_B wrote
> (in article <V0Y_G.97031$8b2.89984@fx07.ams1>):
> 
>  > On 18/08/2020 19:13, Snit wrote:
>  > > On Aug 18, 2020 at 10:17:06 AM MST, "Wolffan" <akwolffan@zoho.com> 
> wrote:
>  > >
>  > > > On 17 Aug 2020, David_B wrote
>  > > > (in article <E9C_G.337814$F86.40648@fx36.ams1>):
>  > > >
>  > > > > -
>  > > > > David_B.
>  > > > > Group Moderator
>  > > >
>  > > > You cannot be the moderator, as a.c.w is not a moderated group. 
> This has
>  > > > been
>  > > >
>  > > > pointed out to you before. Nop doubt your high alcohol intake 
> made you
>  > > > ‘forget’ again, troll-boy.
>  > >
>  > > If you keep saying that he will ban you.

It certainly appears that Brooks has been imbibing heavily.

>  >
>  > I will!
> 
> you can’t, troll-boy.
> 
> 
> 

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#146276

FromDavid_B <DavidB@nomail.afraid.org>
Date2020-08-20 22:02 +0100
Message-ID<dxB%G.161963$C24.16537@fx13.ams1>
In reply to#146266
On 20/08/2020 14:20, Panthera Tigris Altaica wrote:
> On 2020-08-20 04:27, David_B wrote:
>> On 20/08/2020 00:48, Alan Baker wrote:
>>> On 2020-08-09 12:13 a.m., David_B wrote:
>>>> Most readers here probably know already but, just in case some 
>>>> don't, there's a comprehensive summary here:-
>>>>
>>>> https://setapp.com/how-to/type-special-keyboard-symbols-on-mac
>>>>
>>>> It's always good to have a reminder anyway!
>>>
>>> Except...
>>>
>>> ...just like you all the time...
>>>
>>> ...they get basic facts wrong:
>>>
>>> 'Similarly, a degree symbol on Mac (º) is Option + Zero'
>>>
>>> That is simply wrong.
>>>
>>> The degree symbol is Option-Shift-8: "°"
>>>
>>> The Option-0 combination looks very similar: "º", but it is actually 
>>> the "masculine ordinal indicator" (i.e. 1º for "first") in languages 
>>> such as Spanish, Portugese, Italian...
>>>
>>> There is also a feminine ordinal indicator: "ª"...
>>>
>>> ...and the key combination is Option-9
>>
>>
>> I posted in good faith, Alan. :-(
> 
> You posted grossly incorrect information, in large part because you do 
> not do proper due diligence before posting.
> 
>>
>> I expect you've already written to the originator to point out their 
>> errors. That's what a good guy would do! ;-)
>>
>> On a different subject ...
>>
>> *Supernews says Wolffan is not one of their customers*.
>> I received an email this morning advising me of that fact.
>>
>> Can you tell that Wolffan's header has been forged?
> 
> If Supernews really thought that Wolffan had forged headers they would 
> take active measures to do something about it. That they haven't, 
> despite your making your initial complaint three weeks ago, speaks volumes.

It is ALWAYS best to be honest and truthful! :-)

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>> Here’s the header of one of his recent posts:-
>>
>>
>> Path: not-for-mail
>> NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 18 Aug 2020 16:53:24 -0500
>> Date: Tue, 18 Aug 2020 17:53:24 -0400
>> From: Wolffan <akwolffan@zoho.com>
>> Organization: The Pack
>> Mime-Version: 1.0
>> User-Agent: Hogwasher/5.24
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
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>> Message-ID: <0001HW.24EC8554006665A570000E44838F@news.supernews.com>
>> Subject: Re: Apple software uninstall
>> Newsgroups: alt.computer.workshop
>> References: <wOp_G.273094$dTb.253634@fx41.ams1> 
>> <0001HW.24EA9AEA0084C9F0700005E3638F@news.supernews.com> 
>> <rhe3ep$eb0$1@gioia.aioe.org> <E9C_G.337814$F86.40648@fx36.ams1> 
>> <0001HW.24EC44920057383B70000E44838F@news.supernews.com> 
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> 
> Which header or headers do you think are forged, and why do you think so?


The header above makes me think that the poster is a client of Supernews 
- he is not so (according to the message from Supernews received this 
morning)

Wolffan is a *LIAR* who probably has access to an open nntp server



>> On 18 Aug 2020, David_B wrote
>> (in article <V0Y_G.97031$8b2.89984@fx07.ams1>):
>>
>>  > On 18/08/2020 19:13, Snit wrote:
>>  > > On Aug 18, 2020 at 10:17:06 AM MST, "Wolffan" 
>> <akwolffan@zoho.com> wrote:
>>  > >
>>  > > > On 17 Aug 2020, David_B wrote
>>  > > > (in article <E9C_G.337814$F86.40648@fx36.ams1>):
>>  > > >
>>  > > > > -
>>  > > > > David_B.
>>  > > > > Group Moderator
>>  > > >
>>  > > > You cannot be the moderator, as a.c.w is not a moderated group. 
>> This has
>>  > > > been
>>  > > >
>>  > > > pointed out to you before. Nop doubt your high alcohol intake 
>> made you
>>  > > > ‘forget’ again, troll-boy.
>>  > >
>>  > > If you keep saying that he will ban you.
> 
> It certainly appears that Brooks has been imbibing heavily.

I was having a bit of fun - as acknowledged by Snit! 😉

David_B has not been imbibing at all since 21 March 2018

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#146278

FromWolffan <akwolffan@zoho.com>
Date2020-08-20 17:11 -0400
Message-ID<0001HW.24EF1E7C01024C0970000DA8F38F@news.supernews.com>
In reply to#146276
On 20 Aug 2020, David_B wrote
(in article <dxB%G.161963$C24.16537@fx13.ams1>):

> On 20/08/2020 14:20, Panthera Tigris Altaica wrote:
> > On 2020-08-20 04:27, David_B wrote:
> > > On 20/08/2020 00:48, Alan Baker wrote:
> > > > On 2020-08-09 12:13 a.m., David_B wrote:
> > > > > Most readers here probably know already but, just in case some
> > > > > don't, there's a comprehensive summary here:-
> > > > >
> > > > > https://setapp.com/how-to/type-special-keyboard-symbols-on-mac
> > > > >
> > > > > It's always good to have a reminder anyway!
> > > >
> > > > Except...
> > > >
> > > > ...just like you all the time...
> > > >
> > > > ...they get basic facts wrong:
> > > >
> > > > 'Similarly, a degree symbol on Mac (º) is Option + Zero'
> > > >
> > > > That is simply wrong.
> > > >
> > > > The degree symbol is Option-Shift-8: "°"
> > > >
> > > > The Option-0 combination looks very similar: "º", but it is actually
> > > > the "masculine ordinal indicator" (i.e. 1º for "first") in languages
> > > > such as Spanish, Portugese, Italian...
> > > >
> > > > There is also a feminine ordinal indicator: "ª"...
> > > >
> > > > ...and the key combination is Option-9
> > >
> > >
> > > I posted in good faith, Alan. :-(
> >
> > You posted grossly incorrect information, in large part because you do
> > not do proper due diligence before posting.
> >
> > >
> > > I expect you've already written to the originator to point out their
> > > errors. That's what a good guy would do! ;-)
> > >
> > > On a different subject ...
> > >
> > > *Supernews says Wolffan is not one of their customers*.
> > > I received an email this morning advising me of that fact.
> > >
> > > Can you tell that Wolffan's header has been forged?
> >
> > If Supernews really thought that Wolffan had forged headers they would
> > take active measures to do something about it. That they haven't,
> > despite your making your initial complaint three weeks ago, speaks volumes.
>
> It is ALWAYS best to be honest and truthful! :-)

then why do you lie so much?

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so?

>
>
> > > Here’s the header of one of his recent posts:-
> > >
> > >
> > > Path: not-for-mail
> > > NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 18 Aug 2020 16:53:24 -0500
> > > Date: Tue, 18 Aug 2020 17:53:24 -0400
> > > From: Wolffan <akwolffan@zoho.com>
> > > Organization: The Pack
> > > Mime-Version: 1.0
> > > User-Agent: Hogwasher/5.24
> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
> > > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
> > > Message-ID:<0001HW.24EC8554006665A570000E44838F@news.supernews.com>
> > > Subject: Re: Apple software uninstall
> > > Newsgroups: alt.computer.workshop
> > > References: <wOp_G.273094$dTb.253634@fx41.ams1>
> > > <0001HW.24EA9AEA0084C9F0700005E3638F@news.supernews.com>
> > > <rhe3ep$eb0$1@gioia.aioe.org><E9C_G.337814$F86.40648@fx36.ams1>
> > > <0001HW.24EC44920057383B70000E44838F@news.supernews.com>
> > > <hq2k2sFrde3U13@mid.individual.net><V0Y_G.97031$8b2.89984@fx07.ams1>
> > > Lines: 25
> > > X-Trace:
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> > > +57GVusv!Hxs3s/vcPiO9vvHccEDEybkOlQWmQRxyP/FBYSoTSpi82+YxjcEbx9rj91U0RKNzc/
> > > v0h+e1ay+9!xk6yWKJzOXEdpLA2W7ty5yLK
> > >
> > > X-Complaints-To: www.supernews.com/docs/abuse.html
> > > X-DMCA-Complaints-To: www.supernews.com/docs/dmca.html
> > > X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Please be sure to forward a copy of ALL headers
> > > X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Otherwise we will be unable to process your
> > > complaint properly
> > > X-Postfilter: 1.3.40
> > > Bytes: 2076
> > > X-Original-Bytes: 1983
> > > X-Received-Bytes: 2306
> > > X-Received-Body-CRC: 1399128951
> >
> > Which header or headers do you think are forged, and why do you think so?
>
> The header above makes me think that the poster is a client of Supernews

I am
>
> - he is not so (according to the message from Supernews received this
> morning)

bullsahit
>
>
> Wolffan is a *LIAR* who probably has access to an open nntp server

and how do I inject the Supernews headers, idiot?

Son, you just accused me of committing Federal felonies: wire fraud, forgery, 
and possibly more, all without the slightest evidence. And all utterly 
untrue, as I _am_ a Supernews customer, have been a Supernews customer for 
years, and can prove it thanks to my credit card records. Supernews merely 
told you to go pound sand and you’re lying about your rejection.
>
>
> > > On 18 Aug 2020, David_B wrote
> > > (in article <V0Y_G.97031$8b2.89984@fx07.ams1>):
> > >
> > > > On 18/08/2020 19:13, Snit wrote:
> > > > > On Aug 18, 2020 at 10:17:06 AM MST, "Wolffan"
> > > <akwolffan@zoho.com>  wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > On 17 Aug 2020, David_B wrote
> > > > > > (in article<E9C_G.337814$F86.40648@fx36.ams1>):
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > -
> > > > > > > David_B.
> > > > > > > Group Moderator
> > > > > >
> > > > > > You cannot be the moderator, as a.c.w is not a moderated group.
> > > This has
> > > > > > been
> > > > > >
> > > > > > pointed out to you before. Nop doubt your high alcohol intake
> > > made you
> > > > > > ‘forget’ again, troll-boy.
> > > > >
> > > > > If you keep saying that he will ban you.
> >
> > It certainly appears that Brooks has been imbibing heavily.
>
> I was having a bit of fun - as acknowledged by Snit! 😉

And, once again, the “I was only joking” defence. Amazing how oftyen yopu 
dig that out, troll-boy.
>
>
> David_B has not been imbibing at all since 21 March 2018

oh yes you have.

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#146280

Fromnospam <nospam@nospam.invalid>
Date2020-08-20 17:19 -0400
Message-ID<200820201719595031%nospam@nospam.invalid>
In reply to#146278
In article <0001HW.24EF1E7C01024C0970000DA8F38F@news.supernews.com>,
Wolffan <akwolffan@zoho.com> wrote:

> >
> > David_B has not been imbibing at all since 21 March 2018
> 
> oh yes you have.

as a baby, he suckled from a keg tap.

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#146283

FromDavid_B <DavidB@nomail.afraid.org>
Date2020-08-21 00:03 +0100
Message-ID<LiD%G.197083$t27.96889@fx34.ams1>
In reply to#146278
On 20/08/2020 22:11, Wolffan wrote:
> and how do I inject the Supernews headers, idiot?
> 
> Son, you just accused me of committing Federal felonies: wire fraud, forgery,
> and possibly more, all without the slightest evidence. And all utterly
> untrue, as I_am_  a Supernews customer, have been a Supernews customer for
> years, and can prove it thanks to my credit card records. Supernews merely
> told you to go pound sand and you’re lying about your rejection.

I've forwarded this post of yours to Supernews in response to my
incoming mail this morning.
I'm sure when they check again they'll have no difficulty identifying you.

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#146284

FromWolffan <akwolffan@zoho.com>
Date2020-08-20 19:21 -0400
Message-ID<0001HW.24EF3CE801096D8A70000DA8F38F@news.supernews.com>
In reply to#146283
On 20 Aug 2020, David_B wrote
(in article <LiD%G.197083$t27.96889@fx34.ams1>):

> On 20/08/2020 22:11, Wolffan wrote:
> > and how do I inject the Supernews headers, idiot?
> >
> > Son, you just accused me of committing Federal felonies: wire fraud,
> > forgery,
> > and possibly more, all without the slightest evidence. And all utterly
> > untrue, as I_am_ a Supernews customer, have been a Supernews customer for
> > years, and can prove it thanks to my credit card records. Supernews merely
> > told you to go pound sand and you’re lying about your rejection.
>
> I've forwarded this post of yours to Supernews in response to my
> incoming mail this morning.
> I'm sure when they check again they'll have no difficulty identifying you.

I’msure that they’ll see that I’ve been a long-term customer and that 
you’re full of shit. As usual.

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#147343

FromPanthera Tigris <northerntiger@outlook.com>
Date2020-10-09 08:03 -0400
Message-ID<rlpjj6$qah$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#146283
On 20/08/20 19:03, David_B wrote:
> On 20/08/2020 22:11, Wolffan wrote:
>> and how do I inject the Supernews headers, idiot?
>>
>> Son, you just accused me of committing Federal felonies: wire fraud, 
>> forgery,
>> and possibly more, all without the slightest evidence. And all utterly
>> untrue, as I_am_  a Supernews customer, have been a Supernews customer 
>> for
>> years, and can prove it thanks to my credit card records. Supernews 
>> merely
>> told you to go pound sand and you’re lying about your rejection.
> 
> I've forwarded this post of yours to Supernews in response to my
> incoming mail this morning.
> I'm sure when they check again they'll have no difficulty identifying you.

You posted this in August. It's now October. It appears to me that 
Wolffan has no problems with Supernews.

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#146290

FromPanthera Tigris <northerntiger@outlook.com>
Date2020-08-21 07:34 -0400
Message-ID<rhobga$23k$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#146276
On 20/08/20 17:02, David_B wrote:
> On 20/08/2020 14:20, Panthera Tigris Altaica wrote:
>> On 2020-08-20 04:27, David_B wrote:
>>> On 20/08/2020 00:48, Alan Baker wrote:
>>>> On 2020-08-09 12:13 a.m., David_B wrote:
>>>>> Most readers here probably know already but, just in case some 
>>>>> don't, there's a comprehensive summary here:-
>>>>>
>>>>> https://setapp.com/how-to/type-special-keyboard-symbols-on-mac
>>>>>
>>>>> It's always good to have a reminder anyway!
>>>>
>>>> Except...
>>>>
>>>> ...just like you all the time...
>>>>
>>>> ...they get basic facts wrong:
>>>>
>>>> 'Similarly, a degree symbol on Mac (º) is Option + Zero'
>>>>
>>>> That is simply wrong.
>>>>
>>>> The degree symbol is Option-Shift-8: "°"
>>>>
>>>> The Option-0 combination looks very similar: "º", but it is actually 
>>>> the "masculine ordinal indicator" (i.e. 1º for "first") in languages 
>>>> such as Spanish, Portugese, Italian...
>>>>
>>>> There is also a feminine ordinal indicator: "ª"...
>>>>
>>>> ...and the key combination is Option-9
>>>
>>>
>>> I posted in good faith, Alan. :-(
>>
>> You posted grossly incorrect information, in large part because you do 
>> not do proper due diligence before posting.
>>
>>>
>>> I expect you've already written to the originator to point out their 
>>> errors. That's what a good guy would do! ;-)
>>>
>>> On a different subject ...
>>>
>>> *Supernews says Wolffan is not one of their customers*.
>>> I received an email this morning advising me of that fact.
>>>
>>> Can you tell that Wolffan's header has been forged?
>>
>> If Supernews really thought that Wolffan had forged headers they would 
>> take active measures to do something about it. That they haven't, 
>> despite your making your initial complaint three weeks ago, speaks 
>> volumes.
> 
> It is ALWAYS best to be honest and truthful! :-)

It seems that you have not been either honest or truthful. It also seems 
that you have, for reasons of your own, decided to cross-post to 
alt.computer.workshop, where this thread is completely off-topic. As 
noted above, this speaks volumes about you, very little of it good.


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> 
> 
> b=Jxstq584q9fQAI+mucgE4zDixjnkY37tzq+2W/7SRYYXRyJ4e5OmtD9NDbSqTT29FrTk1tUK2cFiAbOVwVS5A+mlglSVEEQAsUh11viemst50uW5LNQoTi8hnm3B4eT+DEkmsK4rQoNh3Rotj9GzVNcsCfHm5FBZEaXTlNTzjIOGGtNsEGCHUdCQTHWL3vzzWa5x6V8iy+fRbhg+2K+agcTYb0nex+iZrbGGdkcJKgDB0wUdkE5UB7LMXwLBuDQ3xRcz4YkIGQaOpGVt3aglz2aLHzs2DkvdvmOli4GP7jBsZ6yz0TtcU/rpKzMcqF4uOFQtmcxuHDi6P8Kib0CB0g== 

What relevance does any of that have?

> 
> 
> 
>>> Here’s the header of one of his recent posts:-
>>>
>>>
>>> Path: not-for-mail
>>> NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 18 Aug 2020 16:53:24 -0500
>>> Date: Tue, 18 Aug 2020 17:53:24 -0400
>>> From: Wolffan <akwolffan@zoho.com>
>>> Organization: The Pack
>>> Mime-Version: 1.0
>>> User-Agent: Hogwasher/5.24
>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
>>> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
>>> Message-ID: <0001HW.24EC8554006665A570000E44838F@news.supernews.com>
>>> Subject: Re: Apple software uninstall
>>> Newsgroups: alt.computer.workshop
>>> References: <wOp_G.273094$dTb.253634@fx41.ams1> 
>>> <0001HW.24EA9AEA0084C9F0700005E3638F@news.supernews.com> 
>>> <rhe3ep$eb0$1@gioia.aioe.org> <E9C_G.337814$F86.40648@fx36.ams1> 
>>> <0001HW.24EC44920057383B70000E44838F@news.supernews.com> 
>>> <hq2k2sFrde3U13@mid.individual.net> <V0Y_G.97031$8b2.89984@fx07.ams1>
>>> Lines: 25
>>> X-Trace: 
>>> sv3-s1TQiZfSmoIifY0f6ZKwcV4/Rzql4RL4Ka9u9FyZ6LDkgIAfeX9M0XXMUTIfOu1UV/60yv5+57GVusv!Hxs3s/vcPiO9vvHccEDEybkOlQWmQRxyP/FBYSoTSpi82+YxjcEbx9rj91U0RKNzc/v0h+e1ay+9!xk6yWKJzOXEdpLA2W7ty5yLK 
>>>
>>> X-Complaints-To: www.supernews.com/docs/abuse.html
>>> X-DMCA-Complaints-To: www.supernews.com/docs/dmca.html
>>> X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Please be sure to forward a copy of ALL headers
>>> X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Otherwise we will be unable to process your 
>>> complaint properly
>>> X-Postfilter: 1.3.40
>>> Bytes: 2076
>>> X-Original-Bytes: 1983
>>> X-Received-Bytes: 2306
>>> X-Received-Body-CRC: 1399128951
>>
>> Which header or headers do you think are forged, and why do you think so?
> 
> 
> The header above makes me think that the poster is a client of Supernews 
> - he is not so (according to the message from Supernews received this 
> morning)

You have failed to show that he is not a Supernews client. I repeat: if 
Wolffan was forging Supernews headers, why is it that Supernews has not 
done something about it? It has been three weeks since you made your 
complaint. A check of old posts indicates that Wolffan has had Supernews 
headers in his posts for well over a year. Supernews would have plenty 
of data to track him down if he was forging headers. If _I_ can find 
those posts in a few minutes, why can't Supernews? And if Supernews can 
find those posts, which they surely can, why can't they do something 
about it? Which is more likely, Wolffan is forging headers with impunity 
and has been doing this for over a year, or you are, to put it crudely, 
lying your ass off?

> 
> Wolffan is a *LIAR* who probably has access to an open nntp server

You have failed to support this. Indeed, it appears that you are posting 
deliberate falsehoods.

> 
> 
> 
>>> On 18 Aug 2020, David_B wrote
>>> (in article <V0Y_G.97031$8b2.89984@fx07.ams1>):
>>>
>>>  > On 18/08/2020 19:13, Snit wrote:
>>>  > > On Aug 18, 2020 at 10:17:06 AM MST, "Wolffan" 
>>> <akwolffan@zoho.com> wrote:
>>>  > >
>>>  > > > On 17 Aug 2020, David_B wrote
>>>  > > > (in article <E9C_G.337814$F86.40648@fx36.ams1>):
>>>  > > >
>>>  > > > > -
>>>  > > > > David_B.
>>>  > > > > Group Moderator
>>>  > > >
>>>  > > > You cannot be the moderator, as a.c.w is not a moderated 
>>> group. This has
>>>  > > > been
>>>  > > >
>>>  > > > pointed out to you before. Nop doubt your high alcohol intake 
>>> made you
>>>  > > > ‘forget’ again, troll-boy.
>>>  > >
>>>  > > If you keep saying that he will ban you.
>>
>> It certainly appears that Brooks has been imbibing heavily.
> 
> I was having a bit of fun - as acknowledged by Snit! 😉
> 
> David_B has not been imbibing at all since 21 March 2018
> 
So, you acknowledge that you were, in fact, posting deliberate 
falsehoods but think that saying you were joking gives you a pass? Are 
you joking about Wolffan forging headers?

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#146270

FromJohn Hill <watcombeman@yahoo.co.uk>
Date2020-08-20 17:55 +0000
Message-ID<rhmddm$gqa$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#146259
On 20 Aug 2020 at 09:27:59 BST, "David_B" <DavidB@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:

> On 20/08/2020 00:48, Alan Baker wrote:
>>  On 2020-08-09 12:13 a.m., David_B wrote:
>>>  Most readers here probably know already but, just in case some don't, 
>>>  there's a comprehensive summary here:-
>>> 
>>>  https://setapp.com/how-to/type-special-keyboard-symbols-on-mac
>>> 
>>>  It's always good to have a reminder anyway!
>>  
>>  Except...
>>  
>>  ...just like you all the time...
>>  
>>  ...they get basic facts wrong:
>>  
>>  'Similarly, a degree symbol on Mac (º) is Option + Zero'
>>  
>>  That is simply wrong.
>>  
>>  The degree symbol is Option-Shift-8: "°"
>>  
>>  The Option-0 combination looks very similar: "º", but it is actually the 
>>  "masculine ordinal indicator" (i.e. 1º for "first") in languages such as 
>>  Spanish, Portugese, Italian...
>>  
>>  There is also a feminine ordinal indicator: "ª"...
>>  
>>  ...and the key combination is Option-9
> 
> 
> I posted in good faith, Alan. :-(
> 
> I expect you've already written to the originator to point out their 
> errors. That's what a good guy would do! ;-)
> 
> On a different subject ...
> 
> *Supernews says Wolffan is not one of their customers*.
> I received an email this morning advising me of that fact.
> 
> Can you tell that Wolffan's header has been forged?
> 
> Here’s the header of one of his recent posts:-
> 
> 
> Path: not-for-mail
> NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 18 Aug 2020 16:53:24 -0500
> Date: Tue, 18 Aug 2020 17:53:24 -0400
> From: Wolffan <akwolffan@zoho.com>
> Organization: The Pack
> Mime-Version: 1.0
> User-Agent: Hogwasher/5.24
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
> Message-ID: <0001HW.24EC8554006665A570000E44838F@news.supernews.com>
> Subject: Re: Apple software uninstall
> Newsgroups: alt.computer.workshop
> References: <wOp_G.273094$dTb.253634@fx41.ams1> 
> <0001HW.24EA9AEA0084C9F0700005E3638F@news.supernews.com> 
> <rhe3ep$eb0$1@gioia.aioe.org> <E9C_G.337814$F86.40648@fx36.ams1> 
> <0001HW.24EC44920057383B70000E44838F@news.supernews.com> 
> <hq2k2sFrde3U13@mid.individual.net> <V0Y_G.97031$8b2.89984@fx07.ams1>
> Lines: 25
> X-Trace: 
> sv3-s1TQiZfSmoIifY0f6ZKwcV4/Rzql4RL4Ka9u9FyZ6LDkgIAfeX9M0XXMUTIfOu1UV/60yv5+5
> 7GVusv!Hxs3s/vcPiO9vvHccEDEybkOlQWmQRxyP/FBYSoTSpi82+YxjcEbx9rj91U0RKNzc/v0h+
> e1ay+9!xk6yWKJzOXEdpLA2W7ty5yLK
> X-Complaints-To: www.supernews.com/docs/abuse.html
> X-DMCA-Complaints-To: www.supernews.com/docs/dmca.html
> X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Please be sure to forward a copy of ALL headers
> X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Otherwise we will be unable to process your 
> complaint properly
> X-Postfilter: 1.3.40
> Bytes: 2076
> X-Original-Bytes: 1983
> X-Received-Bytes: 2306
> X-Received-Body-CRC: 1399128951
> 
> On 18 Aug 2020, David_B wrote
> (in article <V0Y_G.97031$8b2.89984@fx07.ams1>):
> 
>  > On 18/08/2020 19:13, Snit wrote:
>  > > On Aug 18, 2020 at 10:17:06 AM MST, "Wolffan" <akwolffan@zoho.com> 
> wrote:
>  > >
>  > > > On 17 Aug 2020, David_B wrote
>  > > > (in article <E9C_G.337814$F86.40648@fx36.ams1>):
>  > > >
>  > > > > -
>  > > > > David_B.
>  > > > > Group Moderator
>  > > >
>  > > > You cannot be the moderator, as a.c.w is not a moderated group. 
> This has
>  > > > been
>  > > >
>  > > > pointed out to you before. Nop doubt your high alcohol intake 
> made you
>  > > > ‘forget’ again, troll-boy.
>  > >
>  > > If you keep saying that he will ban you.
>  >
>  > I will!
> 
> you can’t, troll-boy.

I've killfiled him. Let me know f he ever has anything useful to say and I may
reinstate him.

J.

-- 
Say less than you know, have more than you show.

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