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Re: HP Instant Ink question

From Graham J <nobody@nowhere.co.uk>
Newsgroups uk.comp.sys.mac
Subject Re: HP Instant Ink question
Date 2020-08-15 10:20 +0100
Organization A noiseless patient Spider
Message-ID <rh89cc$5sb$1@dont-email.me> (permalink)
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Ian McCall wrote:
> On 14 Aug 2020, Graham J wrote
> (in article <rh6qqj$e58$1@dont-email.me>):
> 
>> The reported message is something like: "Action Needed: Printer
>> Connection Lost" coming in an email from<donotreply@instantink.hpsmart.com>
>>
>> Which has apparently been resolved by "reconnecting to the web" but by
>> this she might mean reconnecting to the LAN by WiFi. Of course, being
>> WiFi only it could easily have lost its WiFi connection. Or the
>> Internet connection itself could have failed.
>>
>> How long does the connection have to be broken in order that HP sends
>> this email?
> 
> Hmm. I do believe I’ve seen that before, and yes - it needed the wifi
> reconnecting. It has the bad habit of sometimes not coming back after a
> router reboot, although I should probably write ‘had the bad habit’ since
> I’ve not seen that for a while now.
> 
>> How frequently does the printer "phone home”
> 
> Regularly - honestly don’t know the frequency but given the instant ink
> thing is on a per-page subscription cost then I would imagine at minimum
> after every print, and probably on a regular schedule as well for
> firmware/app updates/.
> 
> I was very sceptical of the service at first and I naturally shy away from
> subscription-anything. In a couple of cases I’ve been forced into it
> (EastWest Composer Cloud, the game console stuff) but on the whole I hate it.
> However, I will say that in this case I’m going to make an exception. The
> only problem with the service so far has been me forgetting where I put the
> new ink when it arrived...
> 
> The printer has been a perfect homework machine. Scanning, colour printing
> including photo...all good. I had a laser printer before which was also good,
> shook the house when it printed (some giant office Lexar one) and great for
> black and white. Less good at colour, and single function. In this case, the
> HP+subscription has worked out well for me.


Thanks.

Can your router identify the traffic from the printer and write details 
about it to syslog?  That way you could tell how often it sends stuff.

My user has a new Fritz!Box 7530 from Zen (static public IP) and I find 
I can ping it from the internet.  So have used F8Lure to monitor the 
connection since 9pm last night.  Solid from then until 1am this 
morning, then serious ping loss - enough so that anything trying to use 
the connection could well have had difficulties.  Clearly resolving this 
will be the first step in the investigation.

I've never worked with a Fritz!Box 7530 before; my experience is with 
the various Vigor routers.  I hope it will give me similar diagnostics - 
traffic monitoring, bandwidth limits per LAN IP address, syslog, remote 
access via ACL, DSL stats, and the like.

More later.


-- 
Graham J

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HP Instant Ink question Graham J <nobody@nowhere.co.uk> - 2020-08-14 20:22 +0100
  Re: HP Instant Ink question Ian McCall <ian@eruvia.org> - 2020-08-14 20:31 +0100
    Re: HP Instant Ink question Graham J <nobody@nowhere.co.uk> - 2020-08-14 21:05 +0100
      Re: HP Instant Ink question Ian McCall <ian@eruvia.org> - 2020-08-15 09:30 +0100
        Re: HP Instant Ink question Graham J <nobody@nowhere.co.uk> - 2020-08-15 10:20 +0100
          Re: HP Instant Ink question Graham J <nobody@nowhere.co.uk> - 2020-08-15 21:59 +0100
            Re: HP Instant Ink question Ian McCall <ian@eruvia.org> - 2020-08-16 00:40 +0100
            Re: HP Instant Ink question Chris Ridd <chrisridd@mac.com> - 2020-08-16 18:07 +0100
  Re: HP Instant Ink question Andy Hewitt <thewildrover@icloud.com> - 2020-08-14 19:53 +0000
  Re: HP Instant Ink question Graham J <nobody@nowhere.co.uk> - 2020-08-18 18:03 +0100

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