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Trumpcession

Started bybks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman)
First post2025-03-05 09:11 -0500
Last post2025-03-11 20:30 -0400
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  Trumpcession bks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman) - 2025-03-05 09:11 -0500
    Re: Trumpcession "Lee" <cleetis@gmail.com> - 2025-03-05 15:12 +0000
      Re: Trumpcession bks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman) - 2025-03-05 15:53 +0000
        Re: Trumpcession Mitchell Holman <noemail@aol.com> - 2025-03-06 02:50 +0000
          #FELONDon admitted economy does better under democrats Re: Trumpcession Gronk <invalide@invalid.invalid> - 2025-03-09 23:25 -0600
      Re: Trumpcession NoBody <NoBody@nowhere.com> - 2025-03-06 07:08 -0500
        Re: Trumpcession bks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman) - 2025-03-06 13:23 +0000
          Re: Trumpcession NoBody <NoBody@nowhere.com> - 2025-03-07 07:30 -0500
            Re: Trumpcession -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2025-03-07 09:40 -0500
              Re: Trumpcession Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-03-11 20:37 -0400
            Re: Trumpcession duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2025-03-07 09:56 -0800
              Re: Trumpcession Mitchell Holman <noemail@aol.com> - 2025-03-07 19:25 +0000
                Re: Trumpcession duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2025-03-07 13:12 -0800
                  Re: Trumpcession bks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman) - 2025-03-08 19:01 +0000
                    Re: Trumpcession NoBody <NoBody@nowhere.com> - 2025-03-09 09:44 -0400
                      Re: Trumpcession Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> - 2025-03-09 08:54 -0700
                        Re: Trumpcession bks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman) - 2025-03-09 18:35 +0000
                          Re: Trumpcession bks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman) - 2025-03-09 21:41 +0000
                            Re: Trumpcession NoBody <NoBody@nowhere.com> - 2025-03-10 07:10 -0400
                              Re: Trumpcession bks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman) - 2025-03-10 19:34 +0000
                                Re: Trumpcession bks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman) - 2025-03-10 20:36 +0000
                                Re: Trumpcession NoBody <NoBody@nowhere.com> - 2025-03-11 07:01 -0400
                                  Re: Trumpcession Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> - 2025-03-11 04:51 -0700
                                    Re: Trumpcession NoBody <NoBody@nowhere.com> - 2025-03-12 07:14 -0400
                                      Re: Trumpcession Derek Nash <dereknash@outlooky.com> - 2025-03-13 10:51 -0700
                                        Re: Trumpcession bks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman) - 2025-03-13 20:53 +0000
                                          Re: Trumpcession NoBody <NoBody@nowhere.com> - 2025-03-14 07:09 -0400
                                            Re: Trumpcession bks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman) - 2025-03-14 13:05 +0000
                                              Re: Trumpcession NoBody <NoBody@nowhere.com> - 2025-03-15 09:26 -0400
                                                Re: Trumpcession bks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman) - 2025-03-15 13:53 +0000
                                                  Re: Trumpcession NoBody <NoBody@nowhere.com> - 2025-03-16 08:55 -0400
                                                Re: Trumpcession bks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman) - 2025-03-16 12:53 +0000
                                                  Re: Trumpcession NoBody <NoBody@nowhere.com> - 2025-03-16 08:55 -0400
                                                    Re: Trumpcession Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> - 2025-03-16 08:36 -0700
                                                    Re: Trumpcession bks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman) - 2025-03-17 02:34 +0000
                                                      Re: Trumpcession NoBody <NoBody@nowhere.com> - 2025-03-17 06:52 -0400
                                                        Re: Trumpcession bks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman) - 2025-03-17 12:38 +0000
                                                          Re: Trumpcession NoBody <NoBody@nowhere.com> - 2025-03-18 06:58 -0400
                                                            Re: Trumpcession bks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman) - 2025-03-20 10:54 +0000
                                                              Re: Trumpcession NoBody <NoBody@nowhere.com> - 2025-03-20 07:32 -0400
                                                                Re: Trumpcession bks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman) - 2025-03-21 12:00 +0000
                                                                  Re: Trumpcession Mitchell Holman <noemail@aol.com> - 2025-03-21 13:33 +0000
                                                                    Re: Trumpcession Skeeter <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> - 2025-03-21 08:11 -0600
                                                                      Re: Trumpcession bks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman) - 2025-03-21 22:12 +0000
                                                                        Re: Trumpcession Mitchell Holman <noemail@aol.com> - 2025-03-22 01:55 +0000
                                                              Re: Trumpcession Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-03-20 20:19 -0400
                                  Re: Trumpcession bks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman) - 2025-03-11 12:31 +0000
                                    Re: Trumpcession bks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman) - 2025-03-11 14:57 +0000
                                      Re: Trumpcession bks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman) - 2025-03-11 18:19 +0000
                                      Re: Trumpcession NoBody <NoBody@nowhere.com> - 2025-03-12 07:16 -0400
                                        Re: Trumpcession bks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman) - 2025-03-12 12:52 +0000
                                          Re: Trumpcession Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2025-03-12 09:46 -0400
                                            Re: Trumpcession Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-03-13 18:38 -0400
                                          Re: Trumpcession NoBody <NoBody@nowhere.com> - 2025-03-13 07:05 -0400
                                            Re: Trumpcession Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> - 2025-03-13 05:15 -0700
                                              Re: Trumpcession NoBody <NoBody@nowhere.com> - 2025-03-14 07:08 -0400
                                                Re: Trumpcession "Fredric L. Rice" <arctriangle1@gmail.com> - 2025-03-14 15:16 -0700
                                                Re: Trumpcession NoBody <NoBody@nowhere.com> - 2025-03-15 09:25 -0400
                                            Re: Trumpcession Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-03-13 18:40 -0400
                                            Re: Trumpcession MattB <trdell1234@gmail.comspam.> - 2025-03-14 15:16 -0700
                                              Re: Trumpcession Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-03-14 21:50 -0400
                                    Re: Trumpcession NoBody <NoBody@nowhere.com> - 2025-03-12 07:15 -0400
                                  Re: Trumpcession Alan <junk@nogood.com> - 2025-03-11 10:39 -0700
                        Re: Trumpcession NoBody <NoBody@nowhere.com> - 2025-03-10 07:09 -0400
                        Re: Trumpcession Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-03-11 20:39 -0400
                      Re: Trumpcession Craig G Wood <j_carlson@gmx.com> - 2025-03-09 19:06 -0700
                        Re: Trumpcession Mitchell Holman <noemail@aol.com> - 2025-03-10 13:26 +0000
                        Re: Trumpcession -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2025-03-11 13:32 -0400
        Re: Trumpcession bks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman) - 2025-03-06 20:56 +0000
          Re: Trumpcession NoBody <NoBody@nowhere.com> - 2025-03-07 07:31 -0500
        Re: Trumpcession NoBody <NoBody@nowhere.com> - 2025-03-07 07:34 -0500
          Re: Trumpcession bks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman) - 2025-03-07 13:48 +0000
            Re: Trumpcession bks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman) - 2025-03-07 14:04 +0000
              Re: Trumpcession bks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman) - 2025-03-07 15:27 +0000
    Re: Trumpcession NoBody <NoBody@nowhere.com> - 2025-03-06 07:07 -0500
      Re: Trumpcession super70s <super70s@super70s.invalid> - 2025-03-06 08:13 -0600
        Re: Trumpcession Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2025-03-06 10:46 -0500
          Re: Trumpcession Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> - 2025-03-06 10:56 -0800
            Re: Trumpcession bks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman) - 2025-03-06 20:50 +0000
              Re: Trumpcession NoBody <NoBody@nowhere.com> - 2025-03-07 07:34 -0500
                Re: Trumpcession -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2025-03-07 09:40 -0500
          Re: Trumpcession Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-03-11 20:33 -0400
        Re: Trumpcession Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-03-11 20:32 -0400
          Re: Trumpcession Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> - 2025-03-11 18:28 -0700
      Re: Trumpcession -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2025-03-06 13:31 -0500
      Re: Trumpcession NoBody <NoBody@nowhere.com> - 2025-03-07 07:34 -0500
      Re: Trumpcession Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-03-11 20:30 -0400

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#1177029

FromGovernor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com>
Date2025-03-14 21:50 -0400
Message-ID<g5n9tjhh2m64j50ppei9sqc6ct3kla0prq@4ax.com>
In reply to#1177017
On Fri, 14 Mar 2025 15:16:24 -0700, MattB <trdell1234@gmail.comspam.>
wrote:

>On 3/13/2025 4:05 AM, NoBody wrote:
>> On Wed, 12 Mar 2025 12:52:40 -0000 (UTC), bks@panix.com (Bradley K.
>> Sherman) wrote:
>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> | "We could see a recession" -- Maria Bartiromo
>>>
>>> |
>>> | How Do You Like the Trade War Now?
>>> |
>>> | Trump is furious that Canada won't take his tariffs lying
>>> | down
>>> |
>>> | President Trump wanted a trade war with the world, and
>>> | Americans are getting it, good and hard. Stock prices
>>> | continued to decline on Tuesday amid the latest Canada-U.S.
>>> | tariff tit-for-tat. By the end of the day the two sides
>>> | were talking about a temporary truce, but who knows which
>>> | side of the tariff bed Mr. Trump will wake up on Wednesday?
>>> | ...
>>> <https://www.wsj.com/opinion/donald-trump-tariffs-canada-doug-ford-trade-war-ba0c6147>
>>>
>>>     --bks
>> 
>> Another "economist" who thinks it's fine for
>
>You stupid clueless fuck: that opinion was by the WSJ editorial board, not an 
>"economist."
>
>You're so fucking stupid. Everything you believe is bad and wrong, and 
>everything you think you know is bullshit.

Tourette's acting up again?

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#1176792

FromNoBody <NoBody@nowhere.com>
Date2025-03-12 07:15 -0400
Message-ID<i4r2tj5o0pk561qnpu4td9tl25qveas7qb@4ax.com>
In reply to#1176704
On Tue, 11 Mar 2025 12:31:59 -0000 (UTC), bks@panix.com (Bradley K.
Sherman) wrote:

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> | "We could see a recession" -- Maria Bartiromo
>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> | Tariff Whiplash Spooks U.S. Consumers
>
>>>>>>>>>>>> | Trump's Policies Have Shaken a Once-Solid Economic Outlook
>
> | 
> | Wall Street Fears Trump Will Wreck the Soft Landing
> | 
> | The economy's pilot has a new message: Fasten your seat
> | belts
> | ...
><https://www.wsj.com/economy/trump-team-recession-hard-landing-c8f23d5d>
>
>    --bks

Soft landing...laughter.  Biden ran with inflation completely out of
control and you openly supported it.

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#1176728

FromAlan <junk@nogood.com>
Date2025-03-11 10:39 -0700
Message-ID<Mz_zP.991258$t84d.188372@fx11.iad>
In reply to#1176693
On 3/11/2025 4:01 AM, NoBody wrote:
> On Mon, 10 Mar 2025 19:34:02 -0000 (UTC), bks@panix.com (Bradley K.
> Sherman) wrote:
> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> | "We could see a recession" -- Maria Bartiromo
>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> | Tariff Whiplash Spooks U.S. Consumers
>>
>>>>>>>>>>> | Trump's Policies Have Shaken a Once-Solid Economic Outlook
>>
>>>>>>>> | President Donald Trump and his allies have begun suggesting
>>>>>>>> | that some economic pain could be ahead for Americans, as
>>
>>>>> | Trump declines to rule out recession amid tariffs' effects
>>>>> | on markets
>>
>> | ...
>> | While Trump used Wall Street as a continuous barometer of
>> | his progress during his first term in office, he
>> | discouraged making it a yardstick this time around.
>> |
>> | "What I have to do is build a strong country," he said.
>> | "You can't really watch the stock market."
>> |  ...
>> <https://www.cnbc.com/2025/03/10/trump-says-transition-period-likely-for-economy-and-you-cant-watch-the-stock-market.html>
>>
>>     --bks
> 
> Change always upsets the market.

Bullshit. Good change makes the market rise rapidly. Trump-style change tanks it.

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#1176612

FromNoBody <NoBody@nowhere.com>
Date2025-03-10 07:09 -0400
Message-ID<83itsj1fd2qktmmoqk3elof441a3h3vptv@4ax.com>
In reply to#1176564
On Sun, 9 Mar 2025 08:54:48 -0700, Siri Cruise
<chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> wrote:

>NoBody wrote:
>> On Sat, 8 Mar 2025 19:01:09 -0000 (UTC), bks@panix.com (Bradley K.
>> Sherman) wrote:
>> 
>>>>>>>>>> | "We could see a recession" -- Maria Bartiromo
>>>
>>>>>>>> | Tariff Whiplash Spooks U.S. Consumers
>>>
>>>>>> | Trump's Policies Have Shaken a Once-Solid Economic Outlook
>>>
>>> |
>>> | President Donald Trump and his allies have begun suggesting
>>> | that some economic pain could be ahead for Americans, as
>>> | the administration carries out plans to slap tariffs on
>>> | billions of dollars of goods coming into the U.S. and fire
>>> | thousands of federal workers across the country.
>>> | ...
>>> <https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/trump-administration/trump-allies-hint-economic-pain-ahead-americans-rcna195323>
>>>
>>>     --bks
>> 
>> You were told months ago by myself that there was a recession on its
>> way as the signs were there.
>> 
>> Who was President then?
>> 
>
>You mean the Biden tariffs?

Please read what I wrote before replying.

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#1176757

FromGovernor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com>
Date2025-03-11 20:39 -0400
Message-ID<url1tjhh53pej0bejlsb00s3a7jpndbjpr@4ax.com>
In reply to#1176564
On Sun, 9 Mar 2025 08:54:48 -0700, Siri Cruise
<chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> wrote:

>NoBody wrote:
>> On Sat, 8 Mar 2025 19:01:09 -0000 (UTC), bks@panix.com (Bradley K.
>> Sherman) wrote:
>> 
>>>>>>>>>> | "We could see a recession" -- Maria Bartiromo
>>>
>>>>>>>> | Tariff Whiplash Spooks U.S. Consumers
>>>
>>>>>> | Trump's Policies Have Shaken a Once-Solid Economic Outlook
>>>
>>> |
>>> | President Donald Trump and his allies have begun suggesting
>>> | that some economic pain could be ahead for Americans, as
>>> | the administration carries out plans to slap tariffs on
>>> | billions of dollars of goods coming into the U.S. and fire
>>> | thousands of federal workers across the country.
>>> | ...
>>> <https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/trump-administration/trump-allies-hint-economic-pain-ahead-americans-rcna195323>
>>>
>>>     --bks
>> 
>> You were told months ago by myself that there was a recession on its
>> way as the signs were there.
>> 
>> Who was President then?
>> 
>
>You mean the Biden tariffs?

Asshole right wingnuts predicted a Biden recession from November, 2020
yet the economy boomed for four years.  Sly of Biden to put it off
until Trump was in office a few months.

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#1176597

FromCraig G Wood <j_carlson@gmx.com>
Date2025-03-09 19:06 -0700
Message-ID<vqlhfd$10t76$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#1176539
On 3/9/2025 6:44 AM, NoBody wrote:
> On Sat, 8 Mar 2025 19:01:09 -0000 (UTC), bks@panix.com (Bradley K.
> Sherman) wrote:
> 
>>>>>>>>> | "We could see a recession" -- Maria Bartiromo
>>
>>>>>>> | Tariff Whiplash Spooks U.S. Consumers
>>
>>>>> | Trump's Policies Have Shaken a Once-Solid Economic Outlook
>>
>> |
>> | President Donald Trump and his allies have begun suggesting
>> | that some economic pain could be ahead for Americans, as
>> | the administration carries out plans to slap tariffs on
>> | billions of dollars of goods coming into the U.S. and fire
>> | thousands of federal workers across the country.
>> | ...
>> <https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/trump-administration/trump-allies-hint-economic-pain-ahead-americans-rcna195323>
>>
>>     --bks
> 
> You were told months ago by myself [sic] that there was a recession on its
> way as the signs were there.
*No* signs of recession were visible months ago. The signs are there *now* 
because Trump is cratering the economy.

"You were told months ago by myself" is just shitty writing. Write: "I told you 
months ago." Do not use the passive voice.

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#1176624

FromMitchell Holman <noemail@aol.com>
Date2025-03-10 13:26 +0000
Message-ID<XnsB29E53D9CC2CC629555@185.151.15.190>
In reply to#1176597
Craig G Wood <j_carlson@gmx.com> wrote in
news:vqlhfd$10t76$1@dont-email.me: 

> On 3/9/2025 6:44 AM, NoBody wrote:
>> On Sat, 8 Mar 2025 19:01:09 -0000 (UTC), bks@panix.com (Bradley K.
>> Sherman) wrote:
>> 
>>>>>>>>>> | "We could see a recession" -- Maria Bartiromo
>>>
>>>>>>>> | Tariff Whiplash Spooks U.S. Consumers
>>>
>>>>>> | Trump's Policies Have Shaken a Once-Solid Economic Outlook
>>>
>>> |
>>> | President Donald Trump and his allies have begun suggesting
>>> | that some economic pain could be ahead for Americans, as
>>> | the administration carries out plans to slap tariffs on
>>> | billions of dollars of goods coming into the U.S. and fire
>>> | thousands of federal workers across the country.
>>> | ...
>>> <https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/trump-administration/trump-allies-h
>>> int-economic-pain-ahead-americans-rcna195323> 
>>>
>>>     --bks
>> 
>> You were told months ago by myself [sic] that there was a recession
>> on its way as the signs were there.
>
>
> *No* signs of recession were visible months ago. The signs are there
> *now* because Trump is cratering the economy.



     Trump inherited a booming economy. 



US Economy Adds 227,000 Jobs in November, Exceeding Expectations
December 16, 2024
https://tinyurl.com/2s7kupny


The U.S. economy added 256,000 jobs in December, 
much higher than anticipated.
January 22, 2025
https://tinyurl.com/y6mhknrj









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#1176727

From-hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com>
Date2025-03-11 13:32 -0400
Message-ID<vqps2l$200vc$4@dont-email.me>
In reply to#1176597
On 3/9/25 22:06, Craig G Wood wrote:
> On 3/9/2025 6:44 AM, NoBody wrote:
>> On Sat, 8 Mar 2025 19:01:09 -0000 (UTC), bks@panix.com (Bradley K.
>> Sherman) wrote:
>>
>>>>>>>>>> | "We could see a recession" -- Maria Bartiromo
>>>
>>>>>>>> | Tariff Whiplash Spooks U.S. Consumers
>>>
>>>>>> | Trump's Policies Have Shaken a Once-Solid Economic Outlook
>>>
>>> |
>>> | President Donald Trump and his allies have begun suggesting
>>> | that some economic pain could be ahead for Americans, as
>>> | the administration carries out plans to slap tariffs on
>>> | billions of dollars of goods coming into the U.S. and fire
>>> | thousands of federal workers across the country.
>>> | ...
>>> <https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/trump-administration/trump-allies- 
>>> hint-economic-pain-ahead-americans-rcna195323>
>>>
>>>     --bks
>>
>> You were told months ago by myself [sic] that there was a recession on 
>> its way as the signs were there. 
>
> *No* signs of recession were visible months ago. The signs are there 
> *now* because Trump is cratering the economy.

Depends on just where one was looking, for there was a "100%!" 
prediction back in 2022/23.

But the "U.S. monthly projected recession probability 2020-2025"

Published by Statista Research Department, Jan 3, 2025 stated:

"By November 2025, it is projected that there is a probability of 33.56 
percent that the United States will fall into another economic 
recession. This reflects a significant decrease from the projection of 
the preceding month."

The basic takeaway is that the Market pundits who had disbelieved the 
'soft landing' even as that was happening were now shifted to believe 
that Trump would have more friendly 'free market' policies than Harris.

Of course, we are now learning that this was highly and overly 
optimistic, as reflected in Atlanta Fed documentation of GDP forecast 
surveys which has whiplashed their prediction needle from +2.3% GDP 
Growth to -2.4% GDP Contraction in less than one month:

<https://www.atlantafed.org/cqer/research/gdpnow>


-hh

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#1176331

Frombks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman)
Date2025-03-06 20:56 +0000
Message-ID<vqd263$j1k$2@reader1.panix.com>
In reply to#1176294
 | 
 | The Trump administration's massive federal cuts and
 | swelling feelings of economic uncertainty helped fuel a
 | recession-level spike in layoff plans last month, new data
 | showed Thursday.
 | 
 | US-based employers last month announced plans to slash
 | 172,017 jobs, a 103% increase from a year ago and the
 | highest February total since 2009, according to Challenger,
 | Gray & Christmas's latest monthly job cuts report released
 | Thursday. 
 | ...
<https://www.cnn.com/2025/03/06/economy/us-jobs-report-february-preview/>

    --bks

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#1176394

FromNoBody <NoBody@nowhere.com>
Date2025-03-07 07:31 -0500
Message-ID<8oplsjtre8q0qpmu4la484as22ebn018d1@4ax.com>
In reply to#1176331
On Thu, 6 Mar 2025 20:56:35 -0000 (UTC), bks@panix.com (Bradley K.
Sherman) wrote:

> | 
> | The Trump administration's massive federal cuts and
> | swelling feelings of economic uncertainty helped fuel a
> | recession-level spike in layoff plans last month, new data
> | showed Thursday.
> | 
> | US-based employers last month announced plans to slash
> | 172,017 jobs, a 103% increase from a year ago and the
> | highest February total since 2009, according to Challenger,
> | Gray & Christmas's latest monthly job cuts report released
> | Thursday. 
> | ...
><https://www.cnn.com/2025/03/06/economy/us-jobs-report-february-preview/>
>
>    --bks

And Bradley leaves out:

"The largest share of job cut announcements came in the government
sector, where the newly formed Department of Government Efficiency has
axed jobs, slashed federal spending and scrapped contracts. "

Well...duh!

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#1176397

FromNoBody <NoBody@nowhere.com>
Date2025-03-07 07:34 -0500
Message-ID<vuplsjdc7089esb36hd90vr9oscljoslii@4ax.com>
In reply to#1176294
On Thu, 06 Mar 2025 07:08:28 -0500, NoBody <NoBody@nowhere.com> wrote:

>On Wed, 05 Mar 2025 15:12:31 +0000, "Lee" <cleetis@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>Bradley K. Sherman wrote:
>>
>>>  | 
>>>  | Traders are starting to price in the possibility that the
>>>  | U.S. economy might fall into a recession -- and one Wall
>>>  | Street veteran says that might actually be the Trump
>>>  | administration's plan.
>>>  | 
>>>  | Charlie McElligott, a strategist at Nomura dubbed Wall
>>>  | Street's most wired analyst by the Financial Times for his
>>>  | manic missives focused on the options market, laid out the
>>>  | argument in a note to clients.
>>>  | 
>>>  | He said President Donald Trump and his administration need
>>>  | an engineered recession to cause a growth slowdown and
>>>  | disinflation that will translate into Fed rate cuts and a
>>>  | meaningfully weaker U.S. dollar for the next phase of his
>>>  | economic agenda.
>>>  | ...
>>>
>><https://www.marketwatch.com/story/is-the-white-house-trying-to-engineer-a-recession-this-wall-street-pro-explains-the-vision-fb3b4106>
>>> 
>>>     --bks
>>
>>
>>   BBF. Blame Biden First. 
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>Since profits are based on completed quarters, who else would you
>blame if profits are down in Q4?
>
>Good luck with your investment strategy.
>
>Laughter.

And the coward has run away.

Again.

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#1176412

Frombks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman)
Date2025-03-07 13:48 +0000
Message-ID<vqeter$qa1$2@reader1.panix.com>
In reply to#1176397
 | 
 | The U.S. economy added 151,000 jobs last month, nearly
 | 10,000 less than economists predicted, while unemployment
 | was up slightly in the first report of President Donald
 | Trump's administration.
 | ...
<https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/jobs-report-trump-economy-unemployment-b2710459.html>

    --bks

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#1176417

Frombks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman)
Date2025-03-07 14:04 +0000
Message-ID<vqeudh$65h$2@reader1.panix.com>
In reply to#1176412
 | 
 | "We could see a recession" -- Maria Bartiromo
 |
 | [38-second Fox Business video at URL]
 | 
<https://bsky.app/profile/atrupar.com/post/3ljs5jievw22q>

    --bks

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#1176432

Frombks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman)
Date2025-03-07 15:27 +0000
Message-ID<vqf38i$151$2@reader1.panix.com>
In reply to#1176417
> | "We could see a recession" -- Maria Bartiromo

 | 
 | Trump's Policies Have Shaken a Once-Solid Economic Outlook
 | 
 | Economic forecasts have deteriorated in recent weeks,
 | reflecting the upheaval from federal layoffs, tariff moves
 | and immigration roundups.
 | ... 
<https://www.nytimes.com/2025/03/07/business/economy/trump-economy-tariffs.html>

    --bks

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#1176293

FromNoBody <NoBody@nowhere.com>
Date2025-03-06 07:07 -0500
Message-ID<3u3jsjdcfhd6fujavj4gprvr9gskqjp71j@4ax.com>
In reply to#1176249
On Wed, 5 Mar 2025 09:11:36 -0500 (EST), bks@panix.com (Bradley K.
Sherman) wrote:

> | 
> | Traders are starting to price in the possibility that the
> | U.S. economy might fall into a recession -- and one Wall
> | Street veteran says that might actually be the Trump
> | administration's plan.
> | 
> | Charlie McElligott, a strategist at Nomura dubbed Wall
> | Street's most wired analyst by the Financial Times for his
> | manic missives focused on the options market, laid out the
> | argument in a note to clients.
> | 
> | He said President Donald Trump and his administration need
> | an engineered recession to cause a growth slowdown and
> | disinflation that will translate into Fed rate cuts and a
> | meaningfully weaker U.S. dollar for the next phase of his
> | economic agenda.
> | ...
><https://www.marketwatch.com/story/is-the-white-house-trying-to-engineer-a-recession-this-wall-street-pro-explains-the-vision-fb3b4106>
>
>    --bks

And yet the market had a healty gain yesterday.
So much for that theory.

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#1176304

Fromsuper70s <super70s@super70s.invalid>
Date2025-03-06 08:13 -0600
Message-ID<vqcahl$30mgg$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#1176293
On 2025-03-06 12:07:11 +0000, NoBody said:

> On Wed, 5 Mar 2025 09:11:36 -0500 (EST), bks@panix.com (Bradley K.
> Sherman) wrote:
> 
>> | He said President Donald Trump and his administration need
>> | an engineered recession to cause a growth slowdown and
>> | disinflation that will translate into Fed rate cuts and a
>> | meaningfully weaker U.S. dollar for the next phase of his
>> | economic agenda.

Sure scorch the earth for the next four years to make yourself look as 
good as possible, even if it leaves your own political party in a 
shambles when the chickens come home to roost.

>> | 
>> <https://www.marketwatch.com/story/is-the-white-house-trying-to-engineer-a-recession-this-wall-street-pro-explains-the-vision-fb3b4106> 
>> 
>> 
>> --bks
> 
> And yet the market had a healty gain yesterday.
> So much for that theory.

That's because the King backed down on tariff threat for the third time 
in a month.

The King has turned into The Boy Who Cried Wolf nobody takes seriously.

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#1176313

FromChris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us>
Date2025-03-06 10:46 -0500
Message-ID<vqcg04$31drl$2@dont-email.me>
In reply to#1176304
super70s wrote this post while blinking in Morse code:

> On 2025-03-06 12:07:11 +0000, NoBody said:
>
>> On Wed, 5 Mar 2025 09:11:36 -0500 (EST), bks@panix.com (Bradley K.
>> Sherman) wrote:
>> 
>>> | He said President Donald Trump and his administration need
>>> | an engineered recession to cause a growth slowdown and
>>> | disinflation that will translate into Fed rate cuts and a
>>> | meaningfully weaker U.S. dollar for the next phase of his
>>> | economic agenda.
>
> Sure scorch the earth for the next four years to make yourself look as 
> good as possible, even if it leaves your own political party in a 
> shambles when the chickens come home to roost.
>
>>> <https://www.marketwatch.com/story/is-the-white-house-trying-to-engineer-a-recession-this-wall-street-pro-explains-the-vision-fb3b4106> 
>> 
>> And yet the market had a healty gain yesterday.
>> So much for that theory.

Uhhhh, Beavis.... check out the news *today*.

> That's because the King backed down on tariff threat for the third time 
> in a month.
>
> The King has turned into The Boy Who Cried Wolf nobody takes seriously.

-- 
Well, we'll really have a party, but we've gotta post a guard outside.
		-- Eddie Cochran, "Come On Everybody"

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#1176325

FromSiri Cruise <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com>
Date2025-03-06 10:56 -0800
Message-ID<vqcr4f$33kno$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#1176313
Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
>>> | He said President Donald Trump and his administration need
>>> | an engineered recession to cause a growth slowdown and
>>> | disinflation that will translate into Fed rate cuts and a
>>> | meaningfully weaker U.S. dollar for the next phase of his
>>> | economic agenda.
> Sure scorch the earth for the next four years to make yourself look as
> good as possible, even if it leaves your own political party in a
> shambles when the chickens come home to roost.
> 

Chairman DoodooHead is not capable of any depth of thinking beyond 
is it time to play golf.

-- 
Siri Seal of Disavowal #000-001. Disavowed. Denied.  @
'I desire mercy, not sacrifice.'                    /|\
The Church of the Holey Apple .signature 3.2        / \
of Discordian Mysteries. This post insults Islam. Mohamed

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#1176330

Frombks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman)
Date2025-03-06 20:50 +0000
Message-ID<vqd1r9$dbg$2@reader1.panix.com>
In reply to#1176325
> | Tariff Whiplash Spooks U.S. Consumers

 | 
 | Americans are growing fearful of a recession. It's not here
 | yet, but President Donald Trump is steering the country
 | toward a downturn with his tariffs and cuts to spending and
 | the federal workforce -- for no logical reason.
 | ... 
<https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2025/03/06/trump-recession-tariffs-layoffs/>

    --bks

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#1176395

FromNoBody <NoBody@nowhere.com>
Date2025-03-07 07:34 -0500
Message-ID<lrplsj1ablbpqu0nf4ooua5687jugmhj4p@4ax.com>
In reply to#1176330
On Thu, 6 Mar 2025 20:50:49 -0000 (UTC), bks@panix.com (Bradley K.
Sherman) wrote:

>> | Tariff Whiplash Spooks U.S. Consumers
>
> | 
> | Americans are growing fearful of a recession. It's not here
> | yet, but President Donald Trump is steering the country
> | toward a downturn with his tariffs and cuts to spending and
> | the federal workforce -- for no logical reason.
> | ... 
><https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2025/03/06/trump-recession-tariffs-layoffs/>
>
>    --bks

Other than the federal workflorce is a bloated, inefficient
bureaucracy of course not!

Eyeroll...

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