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| Started by | bks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman) |
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| First post | 2026-01-26 14:59 +0000 |
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Re: MAGA vs. MAGA Deathmatch bks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman) - 2026-01-26 14:59 +0000
Re: MAGA vs. MAGA Deathmatch bks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman) - 2026-02-10 14:40 +0000
Re: MAGA vs. MAGA Deathmatch Argon <prochoice@here.now> - 2026-02-10 14:50 +0000
Re: MAGA vs. MAGA Deathmatch Lee <cleetis@gmail.com> - 2026-02-10 17:00 +0000
Re: MAGA vs. MAGA Deathmatch bks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman) - 2026-02-14 12:40 +0000
Re: MAGA vs. MAGA Deathmatch bks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman) - 2026-02-23 20:06 +0000
Re: MAGA vs. MAGA Deathmatch bks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman) - 2026-02-28 21:57 +0000
Re: MAGA vs. MAGA Deathmatch Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2026-03-01 07:13 -0500
Re: MAGA vs. MAGA Deathmatch bks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman) - 2026-03-02 13:42 +0000
Re: MAGA vs. MAGA Deathmatch Ubiquitous <webermark@polaris.net> - 2026-03-02 19:35 +0000
Re: MAGA vs. MAGA Deathmatch bks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman) - 2026-03-03 12:05 +0000
Re: MAGA vs. MAGA Deathmatch bks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman) - 2026-03-03 13:56 +0000
Re: MAGA vs. MAGA Deathmatch NoBody <NoBody@nowhere.com> - 2026-03-04 07:23 -0500
Re: MAGA vs. MAGA Deathmatch NoBody <NoBody@nowhere.com> - 2026-03-05 07:05 -0500
Re: MAGA vs. MAGA Deathmatch bks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman) - 2026-03-11 12:51 +0000
Re: MAGA vs. MAGA Deathmatch Lee <cleetis@gmail.com> - 2026-03-11 14:58 +0000
Re: MAGA vs. MAGA Deathmatch bks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman) - 2026-03-12 02:25 +0000
Re: MAGA vs. MAGA Deathmatch NoBody <NoBody@nowhere.com> - 2026-03-12 06:50 -0400
Re: MAGA vs. MAGA Deathmatch NoBody <NoBody@nowhere.com> - 2026-03-12 06:49 -0400
Re: MAGA vs. MAGA Deathmatch NoBody <NoBody@nowhere.com> - 2026-03-13 06:49 -0400
Re: MAGA vs. MAGA Deathmatch bks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman) - 2026-03-13 11:42 +0000
Re: MAGA vs. MAGA Deathmatch "chine.bleu" <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> - 2026-03-13 05:12 -0700
Re: MAGA vs. MAGA Deathmatch NoBody <NoBody@nowhere.com> - 2026-03-14 11:41 -0400
Re: MAGA vs. MAGA Deathmatch NoBody <NoBody@nowhere.com> - 2026-03-15 09:44 -0400
Re: MAGA vs. MAGA Deathmatch bks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman) - 2026-03-18 03:00 +0000
Re: MAGA vs. MAGA Deathmatch bks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman) - 2026-03-18 22:32 +0000
Re: MAGA vs. MAGA Deathmatch "Anonymous_Informant" <Anonymous_Informant@gmail.com> - 2026-03-19 13:53 +0000
Re: MAGA vs. MAGA Deathmatch Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2026-03-18 15:51 -0700
Re: MAGA vs. MAGA Deathmatch Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2026-03-18 15:51 -0700
Re: MAGA vs. MAGA Deathmatch pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> - 2026-03-19 01:46 +0000
Re: MAGA vs. MAGA Deathmatch Mitchell Holman <noemail@aol.com> - 2026-03-19 02:23 +0000
Re: MAGA vs. MAGA Deathmatch Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2026-03-19 06:44 -0400
Re: MAGA vs. MAGA Deathmatch -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2026-03-19 14:35 -0400
Re: MAGA vs. MAGA Deathmatch Skeeter <invalid@none.com> - 2026-03-19 07:36 -0600
Re: MAGA vs. MAGA Deathmatch Mitchell Holman <noemail@aol.com> - 2026-03-19 17:43 +0000
Re: MAGA vs. MAGA Deathmatch Skeeter <invalid@none.com> - 2026-03-19 13:02 -0600
Re: MAGA vs. MAGA Deathmatch AlleyCat <katt@gmail.com> - 2026-03-25 12:51 -0500
Re: MAGA vs. MAGA Deathmatch Skeeter <invalid@none.com> - 2026-03-20 08:47 -0600
Re: MAGA vs. MAGA Deathmatch bks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman) - 2026-03-22 21:20 +0000
Re: MAGA vs. MAGA Deathmatch Mitchell Holman <noemail@aol.com> - 2026-03-23 01:49 +0000
Re: MAGA vs. MAGA Deathmatch Skeeter <invalid@none.com> - 2026-03-23 08:05 -0600
Re: MAGA vs. MAGA Deathmatch Mitchell Holman <noemail@aol.com> - 2026-03-23 17:39 +0000
Re: MAGA vs. MAGA Deathmatch Skeeter <invalid@none.com> - 2026-03-23 11:43 -0600
Re: MAGA vs. MAGA Deathmatch phoenix <j63840576@gmail.com> - 2026-03-23 12:32 -0600
Re: MAGA vs. MAGA Deathmatch bks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman) - 2026-03-23 17:40 +0000
Re: MAGA vs. MAGA Deathmatch phoenix <j63840576@gmail.com> - 2026-03-23 12:35 -0600
Re: MAGA vs. MAGA Deathmatch Skeeter <invalid@none.com> - 2026-03-23 12:48 -0600
Re: MAGA vs. MAGA Deathmatch Mitchell Holman <noemail@aol.com> - 2026-03-24 01:32 +0000
Re: MAGA vs. MAGA Deathmatch Skeeter <invalid@none.com> - 2026-03-24 07:33 -0600
Re: MAGA vs. MAGA Deathmatch Mitchell Holman <noemail@aol.com> - 2026-03-24 17:45 +0000
Re: MAGA vs. MAGA Deathmatch Skeeter <invalid@none.com> - 2026-03-24 12:35 -0600
Re: MAGA vs. MAGA Deathmatch bks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman) - 2026-03-25 13:23 +0000
Re: MAGA vs. MAGA Deathmatch Mitchell Holman <noemail@aol.com> - 2026-03-25 17:41 +0000
Re: MAGA vs. MAGA Deathmatch bks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman) - 2026-03-26 20:56 +0000
Re: MAGA vs. MAGA Deathmatch Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2026-03-26 18:38 -0400
Re: MAGA vs. MAGA Deathmatch "chine.bleu" <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> - 2026-03-26 16:58 -0700
Re: MAGA vs. MAGA Deathmatch Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2026-03-27 06:39 -0400
Re: MAGA vs. MAGA Deathmatch Mitchell Holman <noemail@aol.com> - 2026-03-27 13:19 +0000
Re: MAGA vs. MAGA Deathmatch Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2026-03-28 18:24 -0400
Re: MAGA vs. MAGA Deathmatch "chine.bleu" <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> - 2026-03-28 16:46 -0700
Re: MAGA vs. MAGA Deathmatch bks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman) - 2026-04-07 11:27 +0000
Re: MAGA vs. MAGA Deathmatch bks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman) - 2026-04-08 11:46 +0000
Re: MAGA vs. MAGA Deathmatch Mitchell Holman <noemail@aol.com> - 2026-04-08 13:15 +0000
Re: MAGA vs. MAGA Deathmatch BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> - 2026-04-08 13:16 +0000
Re: MAGA vs. MAGA Deathmatch "chine.bleu" <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> - 2026-04-08 06:29 -0700
Re: MAGA vs. MAGA Deathmatch bks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman) - 2026-04-08 20:32 +0000
Re: MAGA vs. MAGA Deathmatch bks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman) - 2026-04-09 19:37 +0000
Re: MAGA vs. MAGA Deathmatch bks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman) - 2026-04-10 03:10 +0000
Re: Newsom promised California 'Lithium Valley.' But the renewable energy bounty has yet to be tapped Dcessi@GodSquat.org - 2026-04-11 03:22 +0000
Re: MAGA vs. MAGA Deathmatch Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2026-04-09 20:17 -0400
Re: MAGA vs. MAGA Deathmatch Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2026-04-10 06:29 -0400
Re: MAGA vs. MAGA Deathmatch chefly <deal@me.al> - 2026-04-10 16:22 -0600
Re: MAGA vs. MAGA Deathmatch marika <marika5000@gmail.com> - 2026-04-12 00:12 +0000
Re: MAGA vs. MAGA Deathmatch bks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman) - 2026-04-13 00:14 +0000
Re: MAGA vs. MAGA Deathmatch Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2026-04-13 07:30 -0400
Re: MAGA vs. MAGA Deathmatch pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> - 2026-04-13 23:30 +0000
Re: MAGA vs. MAGA Deathmatch Mitchell Holman <noemail@aol.com> - 2026-04-14 02:05 +0000
Re: MAGA vs. MAGA Deathmatch bks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman) - 2026-04-14 12:17 +0000
Re: MAGA vs. MAGA Deathmatch Skeeter <noemail@aol.com> - 2026-04-14 10:43 -0600
Re: MAGA vs. MAGA Deathmatch bks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman) - 2026-04-10 04:01 +0000
Re: MAGA vs. MAGA Deathmatch Mitchell Holman <noemail@aol.com> - 2026-04-10 13:07 +0000
Re: MAGA vs. MAGA Deathmatch bks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman) - 2026-04-10 14:35 +0000
Re: MAGA vs. MAGA Deathmatch Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2026-04-11 00:51 -0400
Re: MAGA vs. MAGA Deathmatch Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2026-03-18 15:53 -0700
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| From | bks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman) |
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| Date | 2026-03-13 11:42 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <10p0t78$rl4$2@reader2.panix.com> |
| In reply to | #1214624 |
|
| Trump, Thune clash on voter ID ultimatum as GOP remains
| divided on path forward
|
| President Donald Trump's declaration that he won't sign any
| new bills until the Senate passes voter ID legislation
| threatens to derail his own legislative priorities and
| sideline confirmation of the newest addition to his Cabinet.
| ...
| "The one thing I've said all along is, and I've told him
| and others that I can't guarantee an outcome. I can't
| guarantee a result," Thune [R-SD] said. "If the result is
| only achieved by nuking the legislative filibuster, we
| don't have the votes to do that. And so that's just not a
| realistic option. And I've made that clear to anybody who's
| asked."
|
<https://www.foxnews.com/politics/trump-thune-clash-voter-id-ultimatum-gop-remains-divided-path-forward>
--bks
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| From | "chine.bleu" <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> |
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| Date | 2026-03-13 05:12 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <10p0uuh$33l51$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #1214644 |
bks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman) wrote: > | Trump, Thune clash on voter ID ultimatum as GOP remains > | divided on path forward > | > | President Donald Trump's declaration that he won't sign any > | new bills until the Senate passes voter ID legislation > | threatens to derail his own legislative priorities and > | sideline confirmation of the newest addition to his Cabinet. The House does do anything already. -- Siri Seal of Disavowal #777-000. Disavowed. Denied. @ NO KINGS For I desire mercy not sacrifice. /|\ The Church of the Holey Apple .signature 5.5 / \ of Discordian Mysteries. This post insults Islam. Mohamed
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| From | NoBody <NoBody@nowhere.com> |
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| Date | 2026-03-14 11:41 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <sb0brk1djq0k92rquidpn4m1j26b6mfefm@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #1214644 |
On Fri, 13 Mar 2026 11:42:32 -0000 (UTC), bks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman) wrote: > | > | Trump, Thune clash on voter ID ultimatum as GOP remains > | divided on path forward > | > | President Donald Trump's declaration that he won't sign any > | new bills until the Senate passes voter ID legislation > | threatens to derail his own legislative priorities and > | sideline confirmation of the newest addition to his Cabinet. > | ... > | "The one thing I've said all along is, and I've told him > | and others that I can't guarantee an outcome. I can't > | guarantee a result," Thune [R-SD] said. "If the result is > | only achieved by nuking the legislative filibuster, we > | don't have the votes to do that. And so that's just not a > | realistic option. And I've made that clear to anybody who's > | asked." > | ><https://www.foxnews.com/politics/trump-thune-clash-voter-id-ultimatum-gop-remains-divided-path-forward> > > --bks Give us one logical reason why voter ID should not be required when ID is required for virtually everything else.
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| From | NoBody <NoBody@nowhere.com> |
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| Date | 2026-03-15 09:44 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <gtddrk1727rkc7vh8tgukgp00gieap7hpe@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #1214851 |
On Sat, 14 Mar 2026 11:41:13 -0400, NoBody <NoBody@nowhere.com> wrote: >On Fri, 13 Mar 2026 11:42:32 -0000 (UTC), bks@panix.com (Bradley K. >Sherman) wrote: > >> | >> | Trump, Thune clash on voter ID ultimatum as GOP remains >> | divided on path forward >> | >> | President Donald Trump's declaration that he won't sign any >> | new bills until the Senate passes voter ID legislation >> | threatens to derail his own legislative priorities and >> | sideline confirmation of the newest addition to his Cabinet. >> | ... >> | "The one thing I've said all along is, and I've told him >> | and others that I can't guarantee an outcome. I can't >> | guarantee a result," Thune [R-SD] said. "If the result is >> | only achieved by nuking the legislative filibuster, we >> | don't have the votes to do that. And so that's just not a >> | realistic option. And I've made that clear to anybody who's >> | asked." >> | >><https://www.foxnews.com/politics/trump-thune-clash-voter-id-ultimatum-gop-remains-divided-path-forward> >> >> --bks > >Give us one logical reason why voter ID should not be required when ID >is required for virtually everything else. Of course Bradley cannot defend his position. His Iranian financers didn't tell him what to say.
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| From | bks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman) |
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| Date | 2026-03-18 03:00 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <10pd4gk$6to$2@reader2.panix.com> |
| In reply to | #1214942 |
| ...
| As the joint U.S.-Israeli military action against Iran
| rolls into its third week, leading figures of the MAGA
| movement have attacked one another with increasing
| vehemence over the wisdom of the war and, more broadly,
| what America's relationship to the Jewish state should be.
|
| The debate reflects a widening rift within the American
| conservative movement. For decades, conservatives were
| stalwart supporters of the Jewish state, but over the last
| few years, some have grown disenchanted with Israel and its
| role in American politics. The disagreements have only
| intensified since the attacks began Feb. 28. On Tuesday,
| Joe Kent, director of the National Counterterrorism Center,
| resigned from the administration, stating that the U.S. had
| entered the war "due to pressure from Israel and its
| powerful American lobby."
| ...
<https://www.sanluisobispo.com/news/nation-world/national/article315086640.html>
--bks
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| From | bks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman) |
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| Date | 2026-03-18 22:32 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <10pf958$djh$2@reader2.panix.com> |
| In reply to | #1215286 |
> | As the joint U.S.-Israeli military action against Iran
> | rolls into its third week, leading figures of the MAGA
> | movement have attacked one another with increasing
> | vehemence over the wisdom of the war and, more broadly,
> | what America's relationship to the Jewish state should be.
|
| Some right-wing media figures are urging Trump to declare
| early victory and leave Iran
|
| Newsmax host Michael Savage: "Is it possible we could just
| pack up and go home? Or must we kill half the population in
| the name of peace?"
| ...
<https://www.mediamatters.org/us-iran-relations/some-right-wing-media-figures-are-urging-trump-declare-early-victory-and-leave>
--bks
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| From | "Anonymous_Informant" <Anonymous_Informant@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2026-03-19 13:53 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <XnsB41464924C3F3jonkramer67protonmef@94.130.76.71> |
| In reply to | #1215405 |
Bradley K. Sherman wrote: > | Newsmax host Michael Savage: "Is it possible we could just > | pack up and go home? Or must we kill half the population in > | the name of peace?" Michael Savage is an acknowledged Traitor.
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| From | Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> |
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| Date | 2026-03-18 15:51 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <10pfaa9$82n2$3@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #1214942 |
On 2026-03-15 06:44, NoBody wrote: > On Sat, 14 Mar 2026 11:41:13 -0400, NoBody <NoBody@nowhere.com> wrote: > >> On Fri, 13 Mar 2026 11:42:32 -0000 (UTC), bks@panix.com (Bradley K. >> Sherman) wrote: >> >>> | >>> | Trump, Thune clash on voter ID ultimatum as GOP remains >>> | divided on path forward >>> | >>> | President Donald Trump's declaration that he won't sign any >>> | new bills until the Senate passes voter ID legislation >>> | threatens to derail his own legislative priorities and >>> | sideline confirmation of the newest addition to his Cabinet. >>> | ... >>> | "The one thing I've said all along is, and I've told him >>> | and others that I can't guarantee an outcome. I can't >>> | guarantee a result," Thune [R-SD] said. "If the result is >>> | only achieved by nuking the legislative filibuster, we >>> | don't have the votes to do that. And so that's just not a >>> | realistic option. And I've made that clear to anybody who's >>> | asked." >>> | >>> <https://www.foxnews.com/politics/trump-thune-clash-voter-id-ultimatum-gop-remains-divided-path-forward> >>> >>> --bks >> >> Give us one logical reason why voter ID should not be required when ID >> is required for virtually everything else. > > Of course Bradley cannot defend his position. His Iranian financers > didn't tell him what to say. Do your Russian financiers tell YOU what to say?
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| From | Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2026-03-18 15:51 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <10pfa9h$82n2$2@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #1214851 |
On 2026-03-14 08:41, NoBody wrote: > On Fri, 13 Mar 2026 11:42:32 -0000 (UTC), bks@panix.com (Bradley K. > Sherman) wrote: > >> | >> | Trump, Thune clash on voter ID ultimatum as GOP remains >> | divided on path forward >> | >> | President Donald Trump's declaration that he won't sign any >> | new bills until the Senate passes voter ID legislation >> | threatens to derail his own legislative priorities and >> | sideline confirmation of the newest addition to his Cabinet. >> | ... >> | "The one thing I've said all along is, and I've told him >> | and others that I can't guarantee an outcome. I can't >> | guarantee a result," Thune [R-SD] said. "If the result is >> | only achieved by nuking the legislative filibuster, we >> | don't have the votes to do that. And so that's just not a >> | realistic option. And I've made that clear to anybody who's >> | asked." >> | >> <https://www.foxnews.com/politics/trump-thune-clash-voter-id-ultimatum-gop-remains-divided-path-forward> >> >> --bks > > Give us one logical reason why voter ID should not be required when ID > is required for virtually everything else. Give us one reason why it should cost so much and be so difficult to obtain when voting is a right? Fraudulent voting is a NON-problem. Even right-wing sources agree that the number of votes cast by non-citizens is too negligible to have affect the outcome of any election in the last 50 years.
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| From | pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> |
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| Date | 2026-03-19 01:46 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <10pfkgr$bcog$3@pothead.dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #1215409 |
On 2026-03-18, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote: > On 2026-03-14 08:41, NoBody wrote: >> On Fri, 13 Mar 2026 11:42:32 -0000 (UTC), bks@panix.com (Bradley K. >> Sherman) wrote: >> >>> | >>> | Trump, Thune clash on voter ID ultimatum as GOP remains >>> | divided on path forward >>> | >>> | President Donald Trump's declaration that he won't sign any >>> | new bills until the Senate passes voter ID legislation >>> | threatens to derail his own legislative priorities and >>> | sideline confirmation of the newest addition to his Cabinet. >>> | ... >>> | "The one thing I've said all along is, and I've told him >>> | and others that I can't guarantee an outcome. I can't >>> | guarantee a result," Thune [R-SD] said. "If the result is >>> | only achieved by nuking the legislative filibuster, we >>> | don't have the votes to do that. And so that's just not a >>> | realistic option. And I've made that clear to anybody who's >>> | asked." >>> | >>> <https://www.foxnews.com/politics/trump-thune-clash-voter-id-ultimatum-gop-remains-divided-path-forward> >>> >>> --bks >> >> Give us one logical reason why voter ID should not be required when ID >> is required for virtually everything else. > > Give us one reason why it should cost so much and be so difficult to > obtain when voting is a right? Give us one reason why these same people are able to obtain an ID to buy liquor, cough medicine, other prescription drugs, get a library card, enter a federal or really any other office building at least in NYC, buy drinks at a restaurant, fill out an employment application and so forth but are unable to obtain an ID for voting. This is an 80/20 issue and only the democrat politicians are objecting. Ask yourself why that is? Hint::::: open borders...... -- pothead "How many liberals does it take to change a light bulb? None, they’re too busy changing their gender." "What’s the hardest part about being a Liberal? Telling your gender neutral parental units that you’re straight."
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| From | Mitchell Holman <noemail@aol.com> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2026-03-19 02:23 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <XnsB413D98149B55629555@185.151.15.160> |
| In reply to | #1215422 |
pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> wrote in
news:10pfkgr$bcog$3@pothead.dont-email.me:
> On 2026-03-18, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>> On 2026-03-14 08:41, NoBody wrote:
>>> On Fri, 13 Mar 2026 11:42:32 -0000 (UTC), bks@panix.com (Bradley K.
>>> Sherman) wrote:
>>>
>>>> |
>>>> | Trump, Thune clash on voter ID ultimatum as GOP remains
>>>> | divided on path forward
>>>> |
>>>> | President Donald Trump's declaration that he won't sign any
>>>> | new bills until the Senate passes voter ID legislation
>>>> | threatens to derail his own legislative priorities and
>>>> | sideline confirmation of the newest addition to his Cabinet.
>>>> | ...
>>>> | "The one thing I've said all along is, and I've told him
>>>> | and others that I can't guarantee an outcome. I can't
>>>> | guarantee a result," Thune [R-SD] said. "If the result is
>>>> | only achieved by nuking the legislative filibuster, we
>>>> | don't have the votes to do that. And so that's just not a
>>>> | realistic option. And I've made that clear to anybody who's
>>>> | asked."
>>>> |
>>>> <https://www.foxnews.com/politics/trump-thune-clash-voter-id-ultimat
>>>> um-gop-remains-divided-path-forward>
>>>>
>>>> --bks
>>>
>>> Give us one logical reason why voter ID should not be required when
>>> ID is required for virtually everything else.
>>
>> Give us one reason why it should cost so much and be so difficult to
>> obtain when voting is a right?
Actually that is a good question.
If you are US citizen why can't you
vote as a matter of right?
No one has to "register" their 4th
or 5th or 6th or even 1st Amendment
rights, why does the right to vote
need all arcane "requirements"?
>
> Give us one reason why these same people are able to obtain an ID to
> buy liquor, cough medicine, other prescription drugs, get a library
> card, enter a federal or really any other office building at least in
> NYC, buy drinks at a restaurant, fill out an employment application
> and so forth but are unable to obtain an ID for voting.
Evasion noted, answer Alan's question.
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| From | Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2026-03-19 06:44 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <10pgk23$kfcp$4@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #1215436 |
Mitchell Holman wrote this screed in ALL-CAPS: > pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> wrote in > news:10pfkgr$bcog$3@pothead.dont-email.me: > >> On 2026-03-18, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote: >>> On 2026-03-14 08:41, NoBody wrote: >>>> On Fri, 13 Mar 2026 11:42:32 -0000 (UTC), bks@panix.com (Bradley K. >>>> Sherman) wrote: >>>> >>>>> | >>>>> | Trump, Thune clash on voter ID ultimatum as GOP remains >>>>> | divided on path forward >>>>> | >>>>> | President Donald Trump's declaration that he won't sign any >>>>> | new bills until the Senate passes voter ID legislation >>>>> | threatens to derail his own legislative priorities and >>>>> | sideline confirmation of the newest addition to his Cabinet. >>>>> | ... >>>>> | "The one thing I've said all along is, and I've told him >>>>> | and others that I can't guarantee an outcome. I can't >>>>> | guarantee a result," Thune [R-SD] said. "If the result is >>>>> | only achieved by nuking the legislative filibuster, we >>>>> | don't have the votes to do that. And so that's just not a >>>>> | realistic option. And I've made that clear to anybody who's >>>>> | asked." >>>>> | >>>>> <https://www.foxnews.com/politics/trump-thune-clash-voter-id-ultimat >>>>> um-gop-remains-divided-path-forward> >>>> >>>> Give us one logical reason why voter ID should not be required when >>>> ID is required for virtually everything else. >>> >>> Give us one reason why it should cost so much and be so difficult to >>> obtain when voting is a right? > > Actually that is a good question. > > If you are US citizen why can't you vote as a matter of > right? > > No one has to "register" their 4th or 5th or 6th or even 1st > Amendment rights, why does the right to vote need all arcane > "requirements"? > >> Give us one reason why these same people are able to obtain an ID to >> buy liquor, cough medicine, other prescription drugs, get a library >> card, enter a federal or really any other office building at least in >> NYC, buy drinks at a restaurant, fill out an employment application >> and so forth but are unable to obtain an ID for voting. > > Evasion noted, answer Alan's question. Doesn't Trump want voters to bring a *passport* or a *birth certificate* to the polling place, not just to register to vote? Heh heh: -- ... I don't know why but, suddenly, I want to discuss declining I.Q. LEVELS with a blue ribbon SENATE SUB-COMMITTEE!
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| From | -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> |
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| Date | 2026-03-19 14:35 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <10phfks$tuml$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #1215466 |
On 3/19/26 06:44, Chris Ahlstrom wrote: > Mitchell Holman wrote this screed in ALL-CAPS: > >> pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> wrote in >> news:10pfkgr$bcog$3@pothead.dont-email.me: >> >>> On 2026-03-18, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote: >>>> On 2026-03-14 08:41, NoBody wrote: >>>>> On Fri, 13 Mar 2026 11:42:32 -0000 (UTC), bks@panix.com (Bradley K. >>>>> Sherman) wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> | >>>>>> | Trump, Thune clash on voter ID ultimatum as GOP remains >>>>>> | divided on path forward >>>>>> | >>>>>> | President Donald Trump's declaration that he won't sign any >>>>>> | new bills until the Senate passes voter ID legislation >>>>>> | threatens to derail his own legislative priorities and >>>>>> | sideline confirmation of the newest addition to his Cabinet. >>>>>> | ... >>>>>> | "The one thing I've said all along is, and I've told him >>>>>> | and others that I can't guarantee an outcome. I can't >>>>>> | guarantee a result," Thune [R-SD] said. "If the result is >>>>>> | only achieved by nuking the legislative filibuster, we >>>>>> | don't have the votes to do that. And so that's just not a >>>>>> | realistic option. And I've made that clear to anybody who's >>>>>> | asked." >>>>>> | >>>>>> <https://www.foxnews.com/politics/trump-thune-clash-voter-id-ultimat >>>>>> um-gop-remains-divided-path-forward> >>>>> >>>>> Give us one logical reason why voter ID should not be required when >>>>> ID is required for virtually everything else. >>>> >>>> Give us one reason why it should cost so much and be so difficult to >>>> obtain when voting is a right? >> >> Actually that is a good question. >> >> If you are US citizen why can't you vote as a matter of >> right? >> >> No one has to "register" their 4th or 5th or 6th or even 1st >> Amendment rights, why does the right to vote need all arcane >> "requirements"? >> >>> Give us one reason why these same people are able to obtain an ID to >>> buy liquor, cough medicine, other prescription drugs, get a library >>> card, enter a federal or really any other office building at least in >>> NYC, buy drinks at a restaurant, fill out an employment application >>> and so forth but are unable to obtain an ID for voting. >> >> Evasion noted, answer Alan's question. > > Doesn't Trump want voters to bring a *passport* or a *birth > certificate* to the polling place, not just to register to vote? And more documents, such as if there was a name change: an additional burden which applies to JD Vance & most married women. Plus not all jurisdictions' birth certificates are acceptable, so that effectively limits "acceptable paperwork" to passports. This Admin has recently restricted which Agencies/Offices can issue ... to just one. The SAVE act is trying to reintroduce poll taxes, despite how SCOTUS outlawed these in "Harper vs Virginia Board of Elections" ... and that was over just a $1.50 fee: ~1/100th of the $165 for a new passport. -hh
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| From | Skeeter <invalid@none.com> |
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| Date | 2026-03-19 07:36 -0600 |
| Message-ID | <MPG.4425a9d3a159d44898b230@usnews.blocknews.net> |
| In reply to | #1215436 |
In article <XnsB413D98149B55629555@185.151.15.160>, noemail@aol.com says... > > pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> wrote in > news:10pfkgr$bcog$3@pothead.dont-email.me: > > > On 2026-03-18, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote: > >> On 2026-03-14 08:41, NoBody wrote: > >>> On Fri, 13 Mar 2026 11:42:32 -0000 (UTC), bks@panix.com (Bradley K. > >>> Sherman) wrote: > >>> > >>>> | > >>>> | Trump, Thune clash on voter ID ultimatum as GOP remains > >>>> | divided on path forward > >>>> | > >>>> | President Donald Trump's declaration that he won't sign any > >>>> | new bills until the Senate passes voter ID legislation > >>>> | threatens to derail his own legislative priorities and > >>>> | sideline confirmation of the newest addition to his Cabinet. > >>>> | ... > >>>> | "The one thing I've said all along is, and I've told him > >>>> | and others that I can't guarantee an outcome. I can't > >>>> | guarantee a result," Thune [R-SD] said. "If the result is > >>>> | only achieved by nuking the legislative filibuster, we > >>>> | don't have the votes to do that. And so that's just not a > >>>> | realistic option. And I've made that clear to anybody who's > >>>> | asked." > >>>> | > >>>> <https://www.foxnews.com/politics/trump-thune-clash-voter-id-ultimat > >>>> um-gop-remains-divided-path-forward> > >>>> > >>>> --bks > >>> > >>> Give us one logical reason why voter ID should not be required when > >>> ID is required for virtually everything else. > >> > >> Give us one reason why it should cost so much and be so difficult to > >> obtain when voting is a right? > > > Actually that is a good question. > > If you are US citizen why can't you > vote as a matter of right? > > No one has to "register" their 4th > or 5th or 6th or even 1st Amendment > rights, why does the right to vote > need all arcane "requirements"? You really are this stupid. > > > > > > > Give us one reason why these same people are able to obtain an ID to > > buy liquor, cough medicine, other prescription drugs, get a library > > card, enter a federal or really any other office building at least in > > NYC, buy drinks at a restaurant, fill out an employment application > > and so forth but are unable to obtain an ID for voting. > > > Evasion noted, answer Alan's question.
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| From | Mitchell Holman <noemail@aol.com> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2026-03-19 17:43 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <XnsB414815D83EBE629555@185.151.15.190> |
| In reply to | #1215494 |
Skeeter <invalid@none.com> wrote in
news:MPG.4425a9d3a159d44898b230@usnews.blocknews.net:
> In article <XnsB413D98149B55629555@185.151.15.160>,
> noemail@aol.com says...
>>
>> pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> wrote in
>> news:10pfkgr$bcog$3@pothead.dont-email.me:
>>
>> > On 2026-03-18, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>> >> On 2026-03-14 08:41, NoBody wrote:
>> >>> On Fri, 13 Mar 2026 11:42:32 -0000 (UTC), bks@panix.com (Bradley
>> >>> K. Sherman) wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>>> |
>> >>>> | Trump, Thune clash on voter ID ultimatum as GOP remains
>> >>>> | divided on path forward
>> >>>> |
>> >>>> | President Donald Trump's declaration that he won't sign any
>> >>>> | new bills until the Senate passes voter ID legislation
>> >>>> | threatens to derail his own legislative priorities and
>> >>>> | sideline confirmation of the newest addition to his Cabinet.
>> >>>> | ...
>> >>>> | "The one thing I've said all along is, and I've told him
>> >>>> | and others that I can't guarantee an outcome. I can't
>> >>>> | guarantee a result," Thune [R-SD] said. "If the result is
>> >>>> | only achieved by nuking the legislative filibuster, we
>> >>>> | don't have the votes to do that. And so that's just not a
>> >>>> | realistic option. And I've made that clear to anybody who's
>> >>>> | asked."
>> >>>> |
>> >>>> <https://www.foxnews.com/politics/trump-thune-clash-voter-id-ulti
>> >>>> mat um-gop-remains-divided-path-forward>
>> >>>>
>> >>>> --bks
>> >>>
>> >>> Give us one logical reason why voter ID should not be required
>> >>> when ID is required for virtually everything else.
>> >>
>> >> Give us one reason why it should cost so much and be so difficult
>> >> to obtain when voting is a right?
>>
>>
>> Actually that is a good question.
>>
>> If you are US citizen why can't you
>> vote as a matter of right?
>>
Well?
>> No one has to "register" their 4th
>> or 5th or 6th or even 1st Amendment
>> rights, why does the right to vote
>> need all arcane "requirements"?
>
> You really are this stupid.
If you cannot answer the
question just say so.
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| From | Skeeter <invalid@none.com> |
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| Date | 2026-03-19 13:02 -0600 |
| Message-ID | <MPG.4425f643b3bdb3098b236@usnews.blocknews.net> |
| In reply to | #1215516 |
In article <XnsB414815D83EBE629555@185.151.15.190>, noemail@aol.com says... > > Skeeter <invalid@none.com> wrote in > news:MPG.4425a9d3a159d44898b230@usnews.blocknews.net: > > > In article <XnsB413D98149B55629555@185.151.15.160>, > > noemail@aol.com says... > >> > >> pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> wrote in > >> news:10pfkgr$bcog$3@pothead.dont-email.me: > >> > >> > On 2026-03-18, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote: > >> >> On 2026-03-14 08:41, NoBody wrote: > >> >>> On Fri, 13 Mar 2026 11:42:32 -0000 (UTC), bks@panix.com (Bradley > >> >>> K. Sherman) wrote: > >> >>> > >> >>>> | > >> >>>> | Trump, Thune clash on voter ID ultimatum as GOP remains > >> >>>> | divided on path forward > >> >>>> | > >> >>>> | President Donald Trump's declaration that he won't sign any > >> >>>> | new bills until the Senate passes voter ID legislation > >> >>>> | threatens to derail his own legislative priorities and > >> >>>> | sideline confirmation of the newest addition to his Cabinet. > >> >>>> | ... > >> >>>> | "The one thing I've said all along is, and I've told him > >> >>>> | and others that I can't guarantee an outcome. I can't > >> >>>> | guarantee a result," Thune [R-SD] said. "If the result is > >> >>>> | only achieved by nuking the legislative filibuster, we > >> >>>> | don't have the votes to do that. And so that's just not a > >> >>>> | realistic option. And I've made that clear to anybody who's > >> >>>> | asked." > >> >>>> | > >> >>>> <https://www.foxnews.com/politics/trump-thune-clash-voter-id-ulti > >> >>>> mat um-gop-remains-divided-path-forward> > >> >>>> > >> >>>> --bks > >> >>> > >> >>> Give us one logical reason why voter ID should not be required > >> >>> when ID is required for virtually everything else. > >> >> > >> >> Give us one reason why it should cost so much and be so difficult > >> >> to obtain when voting is a right? > >> > >> > >> Actually that is a good question. > >> > >> If you are US citizen why can't you > >> vote as a matter of right? > >> > > Well? You have the right to own a weapon too but you have to have a background check and ID. > > > >> No one has to "register" their 4th > >> or 5th or 6th or even 1st Amendment > >> rights, why does the right to vote > >> need all arcane "requirements"? > > > > You really are this stupid. > > > If you cannot answer the > question just say so. I did. You are only trolling for responses. You actuality agree with me.
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| From | AlleyCat <katt@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2026-03-25 12:51 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <MPG.442dd8bdc66a934d98cdf0@news.eternal-september.org> |
| In reply to | #1215422 |
On Thu, 19 Mar 2026 15:46:29 -0700, Alan says... > Give us one reason why it should cost so much HOW much is "so much"? > and be so difficult WHO has ever said it was difficult, other than White liberals? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3JGmKHrWKMQ https://youtu.be/-9gmNwdsEvE Those who don't have ID NOW, probably never vote. 100:1 that 99.99% of those who don't have ID now, never vote. > to obtain when voting is a right? So is driving, well, it's more of a privilege, and you have to pay to do that too. 1.) Driver's license 2.) Registration (tag) 3.) Insurance. So... WHY is so hard for these poor old Black people and LEGAL Hispanics to get ID? Hint: it's not. It's just another racist excuse on your part. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3JGmKHrWKMQ https://youtu.be/-9gmNwdsEvE Canada irrelevant bullshit snipped. White Liberals More Likely To Have A Mental Health Condition https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2021/apr/22/white-liberals-more-likely- have-mental-health-cond/ Apr 22, 2021 - Sixty-two percent of Whites who classify themselves as "very liberal" or "liberal" have been told by a doctor they have a mental health condition, as compared to 26% of conservatives and... ===== White Liberals More Likely to Have Mental Health Problems... - Newsmax https://www.newsmax.com/politics/white-liberals-mental-health- study/2021/04/20/id/1018293/ The Pew Study, Which The Washington Free Beacon notes was published last year but only gained attention in a recent article, showed that white liberals of all ages were more likely to be diagnosed with a mental health condition than moderates or conservatives, with the disparity particularly pronounced among those aged 18-29, according to evie... ===== Study: Young White Liberals More Likely to Have Mental Health Problems https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2021/04/22/study-young-white-liberals-more- likely-to-have-mental-health-problems/ Apr 22, 2021 - When sex and age were factors, 56.3 percent of white women between the ages of 18 and 29 and who labeled themselves as "liberal," said they had been given a mental health diagnosis, compared to 27.3 percent of conservatives in the same categories and 28.4 percent of moderates: ===== 62% of "liberal" or very "liberal" whites have a mental health condition https://www.independentsentinel.com/62-of-liberal-or-very-liberal-whites-have- a-mental-health-condition/ According to a Pew Research Center survey, 62% percent of Whites who classify themselves as "very liberal" or "liberal" has been told by a doctor they have a mental health condition. Only 26% of conservatives and 20% of moderates have been told they have such a condition, the study found. ===== Pew Study: White Liberals Disproportionately Suffer From Mental Illness... https://wibc.com/108211/pew-study-white-liberals-disproportionately-suffer- from-mental-illness/ White women, ages 18-29, who identified as liberal were given a mental health diagnosis from medical professionals at a rate of 56.3%, as compared to 28.4% in moderates and 27.3% in conservatives. Zach Goldberg, a Ph.D. candidate in political science, consolidated the study's info in a set of visuals and posted them to a thread on Twitter. SCIENCE: White Libs More Likely To Have Mental Health Problems https://freebeacon.com/politics/white-libs-mental-health/ Within this demographic, 34 percent of liberals reported having mental health problems, compared with 22 percent of moderates and 16 percent of conservatives. Zach Goldberg, the doctoral... ===== White Liberals Twice as Likely to be Diagnosed with Psychological Problems https://www.hennessysview.com/p/psychologic-disorders-white-liberals Nearly 1 in 2 (45.9%) of white liberals have been diagnosed with mental health disorders. White liberals of all ages are more than twice as likely as conservatives of any age to suffer from mental health disorders. White liberals are almost twice as likely as non-white liberals to be diagnosed with mental health problems. ===== 6 Reasons Why Liberalism IS A Mental Disorder (LOL) - The Political Insider https://thepoliticalinsider.com/6-reasons-why-liberalism-can-be-considered-a- mental-disorder/ In 2005, Michael Savage famously wrote a book titled, Liberalism is a Mental Disorder, the subject of which is self-explanatory. Additionally, Dr. Lyle Rossiter, a board-certified clinical psychologist, wrote a book in which he diagnosed the ideology of the left as a tangible mental illness. ===== Personality Traits, Mental Illness, and Ideology https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/unique-everybody- else/202103/personality-traits-mental-illness-and-ideology specifically, surveys on the " big five " traits of extraversion, agreeableness, conscientiousness, neuroticism, and openness to experience have found that people identifying as politically... ===== Study claims over 50% of liberal women under 30 have mental health... https://theliberal.ie/study-claims-over-50-of-liberal-women-under-30-have- mental-health-issues-men-and-women-with-liberal-views-more-likely-to-be- mentally-unwell/ Study claims over 50% of liberal women under 30 have mental health issues, men and women with liberal views more likely to be mentally unwell April 24, 2021 - 12:01 Gerard Clarke Irish News ============================================================================= "Trump Derangement Syndrome" Is a Real Mental Condition All you need to know about "Trump Derangement Syndrome," or TDS. "Trump Derangement Syndrome (TDS) is a mental condition in which a person has been driven effectively insane due to their dislike of Donald Trump, to the point at which they will abandon all logic and reason." Justin Raimondo, the editorial director of Antiwar.com, wrote a piece in the Los Angeles Times in 2016 that broke TDS down into three distinct phases or stages: "In the first stage of the disease, victims lose all sense of proportion. The president-elect's every tweet provokes a firestorm, as if 140 characters were all it took to change the world." "The mid-level stages of TDS have a profound effect on the victim's vocabulary: Sufferers speak a distinctive language consisting solely of hyperbole." "As TDS progresses, the afflicted lose the ability to distinguish fantasy from reality." The Point here is simple: TDS is, in the eyes of its adherents, the knee-jerk opposition from liberals to anything and everything Trump does. If Trump announced he was donating every dollar he's ever made, TDS sufferers would suggest he was up to something nefarious, according to the logic of TDS. There's nothing - not. one. thing. - that Trump could do or say that would be received positively by TDS'ers. The history of Trump Derangement Syndrome actually goes back to the early 2000s - a time when the idea of Trump as president was a punch line for late- night comics and nothing more. Wikipedia traces its roots to "Bush Derangement Syndrome" - a term first coined by the late conservative columnist Charles Krauthammer back in 2003. The condition, as Krauthammer defined it, was "the acute onset of paranoia in otherwise normal people in reaction to the policies, the presidency - nay - the very existence of George W. Bush."
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| From | Skeeter <invalid@none.com> |
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| Date | 2026-03-20 08:47 -0600 |
| Message-ID | <MPG.44270c0828b0529e98b26b@usnews.blocknews.net> |
| In reply to | #1215409 |
In article <10pfa9h$82n2$2@dont-email.me>, nuh-uh@nope.com says... > > On 2026-03-14 08:41, NoBody wrote: > > On Fri, 13 Mar 2026 11:42:32 -0000 (UTC), bks@panix.com (Bradley K. > > Sherman) wrote: > > > >> | > >> | Trump, Thune clash on voter ID ultimatum as GOP remains > >> | divided on path forward > >> | > >> | President Donald Trump's declaration that he won't sign any > >> | new bills until the Senate passes voter ID legislation > >> | threatens to derail his own legislative priorities and > >> | sideline confirmation of the newest addition to his Cabinet. > >> | ... > >> | "The one thing I've said all along is, and I've told him > >> | and others that I can't guarantee an outcome. I can't > >> | guarantee a result," Thune [R-SD] said. "If the result is > >> | only achieved by nuking the legislative filibuster, we > >> | don't have the votes to do that. And so that's just not a > >> | realistic option. And I've made that clear to anybody who's > >> | asked." > >> | > >> <https://www.foxnews.com/politics/trump-thune-clash-voter-id-ultimatum-gop-remains-divided-path-forward> > >> > >> --bks > > > > Give us one logical reason why voter ID should not be required when ID > > is required for virtually everything else. > > Give us one reason why it should cost so much and be so difficult to > obtain when voting is a right? Who said anything about costing to much? > > Fraudulent voting is a NON-problem. Even right-wing sources agree that > the number of votes cast by non-citizens is too negligible to have > affect the outcome of any election in the last 50 years. So you want me to believe brain dead Biden won by 83 million votes?
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| From | bks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman) |
|---|---|
| Date | 2026-03-22 21:20 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <10ppmfo$d26$2@reader2.panix.com> |
| In reply to | #1215580 |
|
| Joe Kent says he wants Trump to hear MAGA opposition to
| Iran war
|
| In an hour-long interview with The Post after resigning
| from the administration in protest of the conflict, the
| former soldier said he is taking his message directly to
| the president's supporters.
| ...
<https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/2026/03/22/joe-kent-iran-war-trump/>
--bks
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| From | Mitchell Holman <noemail@aol.com> |
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| Date | 2026-03-23 01:49 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <XnsB417D3A39B8C4629555@185.151.15.190> |
| In reply to | #1215745 |
bks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman) wrote in
news:10ppmfo$d26$2@reader2.panix.com:
> |
> | Joe Kent says he wants Trump to hear MAGA opposition to
> | Iran war
> |
> | In an hour-long interview with The Post after resigning
> | from the administration in protest of the conflict, the
> | former soldier said he is taking his message directly to
> | the president's supporters.
> | ...
> <https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/2026/03/22/joe-kent-i
> ran-war-trump/>
>
> --bks
>
MAGA will always support Trump
no matter what he does. It is cult,
they may question Dear Leader but
they will never oppose him.
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