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California passes bill to kick coal out of its pension funds

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First post2015-09-04 15:54 -0500
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  California passes bill to kick coal out of its pension funds Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2015-09-04 15:54 -0500
    Re: California passes bill to kick coal out of its pension funds Double-A <double-a3@hush.com> - 2015-09-04 16:57 -0700
      Re: California passes bill to kick coal out of its pension funds Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2015-09-04 19:18 -0500
        Re: California passes bill to kick coal out of its pension funds gilber34 <invalid@invalid.com> - 2015-09-04 20:09 -0500
          Re: California passes bill to kick coal out of its pension funds jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2015-09-05 01:31 +0000
        Re: California passes bill to kick coal out of its pension funds jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2015-09-05 01:26 +0000
          Re: California passes bill to kick coal out of its pension funds Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2015-09-05 08:50 -0500
            Re: California passes bill to kick coal out of its pension funds jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2015-09-05 18:33 +0000
              Re: California passes bill to kick coal out of its pension funds "reber g=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2015-09-05 12:03 -0700
                Re: California passes bill to kick coal out of its pension funds jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2015-09-05 19:42 +0000
                  Re: California passes bill to kick coal out of its pension funds "reber g=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2015-09-05 14:18 -0700
                    Re: California passes bill to kick coal out of its pension funds jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2015-09-05 21:49 +0000
                Re: California passes bill to kick coal out of its pension funds "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> - 2015-09-05 12:49 -0700
                Re: California passes bill to kick coal out of its pension funds HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> - 2015-09-05 18:09 -0400
      Re: California passes bill to kick coal out of its pension funds jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2015-09-05 01:25 +0000
    Re: California passes bill to kick coal out of its pension funds gilber34 <invalid@invalid.com> - 2015-09-04 19:08 -0500

#518941 — California passes bill to kick coal out of its pension funds

FromSam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com>
Date2015-09-04 15:54 -0500
SubjectCalifornia passes bill to kick coal out of its pension funds
Message-ID<l-2dnfe4sKWHmHfInZ2dnUU7-a-dnZ2d@giganews.com>
California passes bill to kick coal out of its pension funds
> http://arstechnica.com/science/2015/09/california-passes-bill-to-get-its-pension-funds-out-of-coal/

> The bill focuses on the use of coal for electricity generation;
> production of coal for metallurgical uses is exempt. The board that
> oversees the investment funds will also have two options for
> maintaining their investments. One is simply if selling off the
> investments will violate its financial responsibilities. The second
> is if the companies involved provide evidence that they are
> transitioning away from a reliance on coal.


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#518995

FromDouble-A <double-a3@hush.com>
Date2015-09-04 16:57 -0700
Message-ID<2a9d398c-bb66-4542-97a3-ac17ee076aa1@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#518941
On Friday, September 4, 2015 at 1:55:07 PM UTC-7, Sam Wormley wrote:
> California passes bill to kick coal out of its pension funds
> > http://arstechnica.com/science/2015/09/california-passes-bill-to-get-its-pension-funds-out-of-coal/
> 
> > The bill focuses on the use of coal for electricity generation;
> > production of coal for metallurgical uses is exempt. The board that
> > oversees the investment funds will also have two options for
> > maintaining their investments. One is simply if selling off the
> > investments will violate its financial responsibilities. The second
> > is if the companies involved provide evidence that they are
> > transitioning away from a reliance on coal.


Sam, if electricity generation is further transitioned from coal to nuclear, much worse will be in store for the future.  Think Fukushima!

Double-A

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#519009

FromSam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com>
Date2015-09-04 19:18 -0500
Message-ID<l-2dney4sKV3qXfInZ2dnUU7-a-dnZ2d@giganews.com>
In reply to#518995
On 9/4/15 6:57 PM, Double-A wrote:
> On Friday, September 4, 2015 at 1:55:07 PM UTC-7, Sam Wormley wrote:
>> California passes bill to kick coal out of its pension funds
>>> http://arstechnica.com/science/2015/09/california-passes-bill-to-get-its-pension-funds-out-of-coal/
>>
>>> The bill focuses on the use of coal for electricity generation;
>>> production of coal for metallurgical uses is exempt. The board that
>>> oversees the investment funds will also have two options for
>>> maintaining their investments. One is simply if selling off the
>>> investments will violate its financial responsibilities. The second
>>> is if the companies involved provide evidence that they are
>>> transitioning away from a reliance on coal.
>
>
> Sam, if electricity generation is further transitioned from coal to nuclear, much worse will be in store for the future.  Think Fukushima!
>
> Double-A
>

   Wind, Solar and Fusion....   not coal or fission.

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#519018

Fromgilber34 <invalid@invalid.com>
Date2015-09-04 20:09 -0500
Message-ID<msdfc8$j68$3@speranza.aioe.org>
In reply to#519009
On 9/4/2015 7:18 PM, Sam Wormley wrote:
> On 9/4/15 6:57 PM, Double-A wrote:
>> On Friday, September 4, 2015 at 1:55:07 PM UTC-7, Sam Wormley wrote:
>>> California passes bill to kick coal out of its pension funds
>>>> http://arstechnica.com/science/2015/09/california-passes-bill-to-get-its-pension-funds-out-of-coal/
>>>>

>>>> The bill focuses on the use of coal for electricity generation;
>>>> production of coal for metallurgical uses is exempt. The board that
>>>> oversees the investment funds will also have two options for
>>>> maintaining their investments. One is simply if selling off the
>>>> investments will violate its financial responsibilities. The second
>>>> is if the companies involved provide evidence that they are
>>>> transitioning away from a reliance on coal.

>>
>> Sam, if electricity generation is further transitioned from coal to
>> nuclear, much worse will be in store for the future.  Think Fukushima!
>>
>> Double-A
>>
>
>    Wind, Solar and Fusion....   not coal or fission.
>

Wind too erratic, too costly

Solar too erratic, very costly

both have to be replaced every 30 years.

Fusion is not going to happen, and too costly.

So how is California going to replace 90% of its power ?

Just buy it from other states...

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#519026

Fromjimp@specsol.spam.sux.com
Date2015-09-05 01:31 +0000
Message-ID<19tpbc-7lh.ln1@mail.specsol.com>
In reply to#519018
gilber34 <invalid@invalid.com> wrote:
> On 9/4/2015 7:18 PM, Sam Wormley wrote:
>> On 9/4/15 6:57 PM, Double-A wrote:
>>> On Friday, September 4, 2015 at 1:55:07 PM UTC-7, Sam Wormley wrote:
>>>> California passes bill to kick coal out of its pension funds
>>>>> http://arstechnica.com/science/2015/09/california-passes-bill-to-get-its-pension-funds-out-of-coal/
>>>>>
> 
>>>>> The bill focuses on the use of coal for electricity generation;
>>>>> production of coal for metallurgical uses is exempt. The board that
>>>>> oversees the investment funds will also have two options for
>>>>> maintaining their investments. One is simply if selling off the
>>>>> investments will violate its financial responsibilities. The second
>>>>> is if the companies involved provide evidence that they are
>>>>> transitioning away from a reliance on coal.
> 
>>>
>>> Sam, if electricity generation is further transitioned from coal to
>>> nuclear, much worse will be in store for the future.  Think Fukushima!
>>>
>>> Double-A
>>>
>>
>>    Wind, Solar and Fusion....   not coal or fission.
>>
> 
> Wind too erratic, too costly
> 
> Solar too erratic, very costly
> 
> both have to be replaced every 30 years.
> 
> Fusion is not going to happen, and too costly.
> 
> So how is California going to replace 90% of its power ?
> 
> Just buy it from other states...

In state generation by coal is 0.5% while imported generation by coal
is 5.9%.

This bill is just about the state pension fund being politically correct.


-- 
Jim Pennino

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#519024

Fromjimp@specsol.spam.sux.com
Date2015-09-05 01:26 +0000
Message-ID<dvspbc-7lh.ln1@mail.specsol.com>
In reply to#519009
Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 9/4/15 6:57 PM, Double-A wrote:
>> On Friday, September 4, 2015 at 1:55:07 PM UTC-7, Sam Wormley wrote:
>>> California passes bill to kick coal out of its pension funds
>>>> http://arstechnica.com/science/2015/09/california-passes-bill-to-get-its-pension-funds-out-of-coal/
>>>
>>>> The bill focuses on the use of coal for electricity generation;
>>>> production of coal for metallurgical uses is exempt. The board that
>>>> oversees the investment funds will also have two options for
>>>> maintaining their investments. One is simply if selling off the
>>>> investments will violate its financial responsibilities. The second
>>>> is if the companies involved provide evidence that they are
>>>> transitioning away from a reliance on coal.
>>
>>
>> Sam, if electricity generation is further transitioned from coal to nuclear, much worse will be in store for the future.  Think Fukushima!
>>
>> Double-A
>>
> 
>   Wind, Solar and Fusion....   not coal or fission.

Wind and solar are too expensive and undependable while fusion does
not exist, you spamming piece of shit. 

-- 
Jim Pennino

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#519077

FromSam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com>
Date2015-09-05 08:50 -0500
Message-ID<HKudnTZcf7SAbnfInZ2dnUU7-IudnZ2d@giganews.com>
In reply to#519024
On 9/4/15 8:26 PM, jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>
> Wind and solar are too expensive and undependable while fusion does
> not exist, you spamming piece of shit.
>

   That was said about airplanes and automobiles, jimp.  It is
   impossible for you to post anything without calling names.

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#519117

Fromjimp@specsol.spam.sux.com
Date2015-09-05 18:33 +0000
Message-ID<u4prbc-8mn.ln1@mail.specsol.com>
In reply to#519077
Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 9/4/15 8:26 PM, jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>>
>> Wind and solar are too expensive and undependable while fusion does
>> not exist, you spamming piece of shit.
>>
> 
>   That was said about airplanes and automobiles, jimp.  It is
>   impossible for you to post anything without calling names.

Yes, that was said about airplanes and automobiles when they were
first invented, but that rapidly changed.

Solar has been around for about a half century, which should put it
in the jet age when compared to aircraft and wind has been around
for thousands of years, ass hat. No amount of technology can change
the vagarity of the wind and clouds, ass hat.

And if you were not a worthless, spamming piece of shit, I wouldn't be
calling you a worthless, spamming piece of shit, you worthless, spamming
piece of shit. 

What the California state pension fund invests in has nothing to do with
physics, you worthless, spamming piece of shit.



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#519126

From"reber g=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com>
Date2015-09-05 12:03 -0700
Message-ID<f0478818-414d-44b2-99d6-5d3ada9b3035@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#519117
On Saturday, September 5, 2015 at 11:46:06 AM UTC-7, ji...@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
> Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> wrote:
> > On 9/4/15 8:26 PM, jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
> >>
> >> Wind and solar are too expensive and undependable while fusion does
> >> not exist, you spamming piece of shit.
> >>
> > 
> >   That was said about airplanes and automobiles, jimp.  It is
> >   impossible for you to post anything without calling names.
> 
> Yes, that was said about airplanes and automobiles when they were
> first invented, but that rapidly changed.
> 
> Solar has been around for about a half century, which should put it
> in the jet age when compared to aircraft and wind has been around
> for thousands of years, ass hat. No amount of technology can change
> the vagarity of the wind and clouds, ass hat.
> 
> And if you were not a worthless, spamming piece of shit, I wouldn't be
> calling you a worthless, spamming piece of shit, you worthless, spamming
> piece of shit. 
> 
> What the California state pension fund invests in has nothing to do with
> physics, you worthless, spamming piece of shit.
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> Jim Pennino

Calif and China need my Pulse Fusion Machine.Progress Energy is 100% GOP Mafia.They can burn coal.Not filter their smoke,and giving children lung cancer means nothing to them.Its money all the way down. TreBert

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#519135

Fromjimp@specsol.spam.sux.com
Date2015-09-05 19:42 +0000
Message-ID<86trbc-m4o.ln1@mail.specsol.com>
In reply to#519126
reber g=emc^2 <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Saturday, September 5, 2015 at 11:46:06 AM UTC-7, ji...@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>> Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > On 9/4/15 8:26 PM, jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Wind and solar are too expensive and undependable while fusion does
>> >> not exist, you spamming piece of shit.
>> >>
>> > 
>> >   That was said about airplanes and automobiles, jimp.  It is
>> >   impossible for you to post anything without calling names.
>> 
>> Yes, that was said about airplanes and automobiles when they were
>> first invented, but that rapidly changed.
>> 
>> Solar has been around for about a half century, which should put it
>> in the jet age when compared to aircraft and wind has been around
>> for thousands of years, ass hat. No amount of technology can change
>> the vagarity of the wind and clouds, ass hat.
>> 
>> And if you were not a worthless, spamming piece of shit, I wouldn't be
>> calling you a worthless, spamming piece of shit, you worthless, spamming
>> piece of shit. 
>> 
>> What the California state pension fund invests in has nothing to do with
>> physics, you worthless, spamming piece of shit.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -- 
>> Jim Pennino
> 
> Calif and China need my Pulse Fusion Machine.Progress Energy is 100% GOP Mafia.They can burn coal.Not filter their smoke,and giving children lung cancer means nothing to them.Its money all the way down. TreBert

Progress Energy has nothing to do with California.

You bad mouth the GOP but want Powell as president.

Are you in the thin air at the top of Mt. Baldy right now?


-- 
Jim Pennino

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#519165

From"reber g=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com>
Date2015-09-05 14:18 -0700
Message-ID<aa6d9053-9064-40d2-bbaf-1df1a2b06c20@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#519135
On Saturday, September 5, 2015 at 12:46:05 PM UTC-7, ji...@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
> reber g=emc^2 <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> wrote:
> > On Saturday, September 5, 2015 at 11:46:06 AM UTC-7, ji...@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
> >> Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> > On 9/4/15 8:26 PM, jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> Wind and solar are too expensive and undependable while fusion does
> >> >> not exist, you spamming piece of shit.
> >> >>
> >> > 
> >> >   That was said about airplanes and automobiles, jimp.  It is
> >> >   impossible for you to post anything without calling names.
> >> 
> >> Yes, that was said about airplanes and automobiles when they were
> >> first invented, but that rapidly changed.
> >> 
> >> Solar has been around for about a half century, which should put it
> >> in the jet age when compared to aircraft and wind has been around
> >> for thousands of years, ass hat. No amount of technology can change
> >> the vagarity of the wind and clouds, ass hat.
> >> 
> >> And if you were not a worthless, spamming piece of shit, I wouldn't be
> >> calling you a worthless, spamming piece of shit, you worthless, spamming
> >> piece of shit. 
> >> 
> >> What the California state pension fund invests in has nothing to do with
> >> physics, you worthless, spamming piece of shit.
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> -- 
> >> Jim Pennino
> > 
> > Calif and China need my Pulse Fusion Machine.Progress Energy is 100% GOP Mafia.They can burn coal.Not filter their smoke,and giving children lung cancer means nothing to them.Its money all the way down. TreBert
> 
> Progress Energy has nothing to do with California.
> 
> You bad mouth the GOP but want Powell as president.
> 
> Are you in the thin air at the top of Mt. Baldy right now?
> 
> 
> -- 
> Jim Pennino

I do not consider Powell as a GOP Mafia man.I voted for IKE.Time Obama was made the escape goat for Bush stealing the treasury. Will not be long before the Godfather enters Rick Scott.He has the record of stealing most money from medicare.  TreBert

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#519179

Fromjimp@specsol.spam.sux.com
Date2015-09-05 21:49 +0000
Message-ID<qj4sbc-ruo.ln1@mail.specsol.com>
In reply to#519165
reber g=emc^2 <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Saturday, September 5, 2015 at 12:46:05 PM UTC-7, ji...@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>> reber g=emc^2 <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > On Saturday, September 5, 2015 at 11:46:06 AM UTC-7, ji...@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>> >> Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> > On 9/4/15 8:26 PM, jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Wind and solar are too expensive and undependable while fusion does
>> >> >> not exist, you spamming piece of shit.
>> >> >>
>> >> > 
>> >> >   That was said about airplanes and automobiles, jimp.  It is
>> >> >   impossible for you to post anything without calling names.
>> >> 
>> >> Yes, that was said about airplanes and automobiles when they were
>> >> first invented, but that rapidly changed.
>> >> 
>> >> Solar has been around for about a half century, which should put it
>> >> in the jet age when compared to aircraft and wind has been around
>> >> for thousands of years, ass hat. No amount of technology can change
>> >> the vagarity of the wind and clouds, ass hat.
>> >> 
>> >> And if you were not a worthless, spamming piece of shit, I wouldn't be
>> >> calling you a worthless, spamming piece of shit, you worthless, spamming
>> >> piece of shit. 
>> >> 
>> >> What the California state pension fund invests in has nothing to do with
>> >> physics, you worthless, spamming piece of shit.
>> >> 
>> >> 
>> >> 
>> >> -- 
>> >> Jim Pennino
>> > 
>> > Calif and China need my Pulse Fusion Machine.Progress Energy is 100% GOP Mafia.They can burn coal.Not filter their smoke,and giving children lung cancer means nothing to them.Its money all the way down. TreBert
>> 
>> Progress Energy has nothing to do with California.
>> 
>> You bad mouth the GOP but want Powell as president.
>> 
>> Are you in the thin air at the top of Mt. Baldy right now?
>> 
>> 
>> -- 
>> Jim Pennino
> 
> I do not consider Powell as a GOP Mafia man.I voted for IKE.Time Obama was made the escape goat for Bush stealing the treasury. Will not be long before the Godfather enters Rick Scott.He has the record of stealing most money from medicare.  TreBert

Are you going to provide a list of which members of the GOP are Mafia
and which are not so we can keep track?


-- 
Jim Pennino

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#519137

From"hanson" <hanson@quick.net>
Date2015-09-05 12:49 -0700
Message-ID<msfh5k$c7m$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#519126
<herbertglazier0@gmail.com> Cretin Glazier "reber g=emc^2" wrote:
> Calif and China need my Pulse Con-Fusion Machine which exists
only as a piece of Glazierola based on Glazier's Gutter Physics inside
G=EMC^2 aka Glazier's Empty Micro Cephalic Cranium. LOL!

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#519187

FromHVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com>
Date2015-09-05 18:09 -0400
Message-ID<msfp2d$679$3@dont-email.me>
In reply to#519126
On 9/5/2015 3:03 PM, reber g=emc^2 wrote:
>
> Calif and China need my Pulse Fusion Machine.Progress Energy is 100%
> GOP Mafia.They can burn coal.Not filter their smoke,and giving
> children lung cancer means nothing to them.Its money all the way
> down. TreBert


Bert says he has the technology to make all coal fired plants obsolete. 
This will stop cancer and save the children. But Bert won't give it up 
until he gets a HUGE pile of cash...Just like the GOPers he claims are 
mafia.

How can you sleep at night, Bert?



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#519023

Fromjimp@specsol.spam.sux.com
Date2015-09-05 01:25 +0000
Message-ID<dtspbc-7lh.ln1@mail.specsol.com>
In reply to#518995
Double-A <double-a3@hush.com> wrote:
> On Friday, September 4, 2015 at 1:55:07 PM UTC-7, Sam Wormley wrote:
>> California passes bill to kick coal out of its pension funds
>> > http://arstechnica.com/science/2015/09/california-passes-bill-to-get-its-pension-funds-out-of-coal/
>> 
>> > The bill focuses on the use of coal for electricity generation;
>> > production of coal for metallurgical uses is exempt. The board that
>> > oversees the investment funds will also have two options for
>> > maintaining their investments. One is simply if selling off the
>> > investments will violate its financial responsibilities. The second
>> > is if the companies involved provide evidence that they are
>> > transitioning away from a reliance on coal.
> 
> 
> Sam, if electricity generation is further transitioned from coal to nuclear, much worse will be in store for the future.  Think Fukushima!
> 
> Double-A

The bill the off-topic spaming ass hat's cut and paste mentions has
nothing to do with electric generation with coal in California, which
is less than 1%. The major source is natural gas.

It is actually about the state's pension fund being politically correct.

The last time they tried something like this, the pension fund took
a big hit.


-- 
Jim Pennino

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#519003

Fromgilber34 <invalid@invalid.com>
Date2015-09-04 19:08 -0500
Message-ID<msdbr1$dc2$1@speranza.aioe.org>
In reply to#518941
On 9/4/2015 3:54 PM, Sam Wormley wrote:
> California passes bill to kick coal out of its pension funds
>> http://arstechnica.com/science/2015/09/california-passes-bill-to-get-its-pension-funds-out-of-coal/
>>
>
>> The bill focuses on the use of coal for electricity generation;
>> production of coal for metallurgical uses is exempt. The board that
>> oversees the investment funds will also have two options for
>> maintaining their investments. One is simply if selling off the
>> investments will violate its financial responsibilities. The second
>> is if the companies involved provide evidence that they are
>> transitioning away from a reliance on coal.
>
>


the price of electricity in California will rise by 200 % in 2 years. 
Air Conditioning will be outlawed.
Cars will be restricted to 5 miles per day max.

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