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  Esselstyn ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@FakeAddress.com> - 2016-06-25 21:18 -0500
    Re: Esselstyn Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-06-25 21:44 -0500
      Re: Esselstyn ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@FakeAddress.com> - 2016-06-25 22:49 -0500
      Re: Esselstyn jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-06-26 04:54 +0000
        Re: Esselstyn john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-06-26 05:33 -0700
          Re: Esselstyn john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-06-26 06:20 -0700
            Re: Esselstyn john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-06-26 06:24 -0700
              Re: Esselstyn "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> - 2016-06-26 07:36 -0700
                Re: Esselstyn john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-06-26 08:19 -0700
                  Re: Esselstyn ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@FakeAddress.com> - 2016-06-26 11:47 -0500
                    Re: Esselstyn john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-06-26 11:57 -0700
                      Re: Esselstyn moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-06-27 02:33 +0000
                        Re: Esselstyn john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-06-27 11:25 -0700
                          Re: Esselstyn moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-06-27 18:55 +0000
            Re: Esselstyn noTthaTguY <abu.kuanysh05@gmail.com> - 2016-06-26 16:56 -0700
      Re: Esselstyn HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-06-26 12:11 -0700
        Re: Esselstyn ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@FakeAddress.com> - 2016-06-26 14:47 -0500
        Re: Esselstyn "nuny@bid.nes" <Alien8752@gmail.com> - 2016-06-27 14:10 -0700
          Re: Esselstyn ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@FakeAddress.com> - 2016-06-27 21:04 -0500

#586727 — Esselstyn

John this Esselstyn's book "Prevent and reverse heart
disease", have you read it? It is 9 years old, are you
sure its material aren't outdated?
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      nothing came up."
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#586731

On 6/25/2016 9:18 PM, ClutterFreak wrote:
> John this Esselstyn's book "Prevent and reverse heart disease", have
> you read it? It is 9 years old, are you sure its material aren't
> outdated?


from your book;  (sounds like the Cow diet)


The Diet Plan

The bottom line of the nutritional program is that it contains not a
single item of any food known to cause or promote the development of
vascular disease.

According to Dr.Esselstyn, it is clear that continuing with the
slightest bit of the foods that cause the disease in the first place is
like adding fuel to a fire. The fuel in this case is fat. Here are the
rules of his program in their simplest form:

     You may not eat anything with a mother or a face (no meat, poultry,
or fish).
     All animal products necessarily contain fat.
     You cannot eat dairy products.
     You must not consume oil of any kind — not a drop. This is the fuel,
which would keep the fire going.
     Generally, you cannot eat nuts or avocados
     What you can eat are a wonderful variety of delicious,
nutrient-dense foods:
     All vegetables except avocado. Leafy green vegetables, root
vegetables, veggies that are red, green, purple, orange and yellow and
everything in-between
     All legumes - beans, peas, and lentils of all varieties
     All whole grains and products, such as bread and pasta, that are
made from them—as long as they do not contain added fats.
     All fruits.

Dr Esselstyn is a leader in that wave, and he is working to improve
medicine through dietary prevention, and nutritional cures.

The diet works. According to Esselstyn, in fully compliant patients,
angina disappears in a few weeks and abnormal stress test results return
to normal.

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#586736

On Sat, 25 Jun 2016 21:44:04 -0500, Sergio wrote:

> (sounds like the Cow diet)

Or that of a rabbit. But perhaps worth a try. It is
talking about angina disappearing in a few weeks. 
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     "zurdAr pul nemikhAd bizur ham pul nemikhAd!"

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#586743

Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> wrote:
> On 6/25/2016 9:18 PM, ClutterFreak wrote:
>> John this Esselstyn's book "Prevent and reverse heart disease", have
>> you read it? It is 9 years old, are you sure its material aren't
>> outdated?
> 
> 
> from your book;  (sounds like the Cow diet)
> 
> 
> The Diet Plan
> 
> The bottom line of the nutritional program is that it contains not a
> single item of any food known to cause or promote the development of
> vascular disease.
> 
> According to Dr.Esselstyn, it is clear that continuing with the
> slightest bit of the foods that cause the disease in the first place is
> like adding fuel to a fire. The fuel in this case is fat. Here are the
> rules of his program in their simplest form:
> 
>     You may not eat anything with a mother or a face (no meat, poultry,
> or fish).
>     All animal products necessarily contain fat.
>     You cannot eat dairy products.
>     You must not consume oil of any kind ? not a drop.

Almost all food naturally contains some oil.

If humans were not meant to eat meat, why do they have canine teeth?

-- 
Jim Pennino

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#586756

I still eat oils.
:(
Very difficult not to.
But my health is still skyrocketing.

When you can break into a smooth
run, and continue for a block without
effort or sweat, that's good enough 
for me. I was tired of pain: limping
and smiling, "I can take it!  I'm tough!!"

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#586758

My original diet was
to avoid hydrogenated oils.
My original theory was
that Virus uses them to
cross cell membrane.

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#586759

For 'oils', above, read any fats, lipids.
Food colourings.

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#586761

The Avatar of Vegetania Sefton "john" <johnsefton288@gmail.com> wrote:
I still eat oils. :( Very difficult not to.
But my health is still skyrocketing.
>
When you can break into a smooth
run, and continue for a block without
effort or sweat, that's good enough 
for me. I was tired of pain: limping
and smiling, "I can take it!  I'm tough!!"
>
My original diet was
to avoid hydrogenated oils.
My original theory was
that Virus uses them to
cross cell membrane.
Food colourings.
>
hanson wrote:
Sefton, there is no reason to doubt that your diet 
works for your physical health, but it has done little 
to improve your mental health, as seen by/in your 
support to side with Full-Swine Glazier..... LOL
>
Also, your megalo-vegetism never mentions that
a traditional Inuit would die on your diet, or a cow-
blood slurping Watusi, would not have the strenght 
to jump and down. 
>
Sefton, we are all "expressions" of our environment,
even you, who is always good for a laugh.... ahahahaha..



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#586762

This diet is not nearly as
crucial in the absence of
disease.

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#586770

On Sun, 26 Jun 2016 08:19:36 -0700 (PDT), john wrote:

> This diet is not nearly as
> crucial in the absence of
> disease.

Do you cook your vegetables or do you eat them raw?
Did you read Esselstyn's book or did you just watch a
paid ad by him on TV?

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#586787

I'm terrible.
I do VegaOne chocolate protein/ probiotics
with banana when I can.
I do rice with any kind/number steamed
vegetables 
I do peanut butter and bread
I do lots of Humous and fake meat
I do veggie wraps
Salads

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#586861

john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> writes:

>I'm terrible.
>I do VegaOne chocolate protein/ probiotics
>with banana when I can.
>I do rice with any kind/number steamed
>vegetables 
>I do peanut butter and bread
>I do lots of Humous and fake meat
>I do veggie wraps
>Salads

You sure can toss one mean word salad, that's for sure!

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#586944

Michael
Depends what you think is gobbledegook.
I think everything has
structure including the structure, while you
believe in a "smallest".
It is unclear whether this strange
beast is the same thing as another
math monster that you
subscribe to- the Singularity.
After that, I'm, like, "purple and green
probability clouds- like LSD hallucinations?"

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#586948

john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> writes:

>Michael
>Depends what you think is gobbledegook.

Don't just spew crap here, give us some evidence! Some support and valid
predictions, not just fractarded crap and precessing spinny thing 
obsessions!  And if you are going to predict violations of the existing
laws of physics, you have to come up with a pretty good explanation (and
evidence) that those "laws" are incorrect/obsolete and why.

>After that, I'm, like, "purple and green
>probability clouds- like LSD hallucinations?"

Well, of everyone here, it appears that you are the expert in LSD 
hallucinations.

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#586839

GRaS, ho-ha

> to avoid hydrogenated oils.
> My original theory was
> that Virus uses them to
> cross cell membrane.

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#586794

Custard

The diet works. According to Esselstyn, in fully compliant patients, 
angina disappears in a few weeks and abnormal stress test results return 
to normal. 
----------

A girl once told me she had acute angina. I said it was a good thing cause her tits looked like shit

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#586799

On Sun, 26 Jun 2016 12:11:19 -0700 (PDT), HVAC wrote:

> Custard
> 
> The diet works. According to Esselstyn, in fully compliant patients, 
> angina disappears in a few weeks and abnormal stress test results return 
> to normal. 
> ----------
> 
> A girl once told me she had acute angina. I said it 
> was a good thing cause her tits looked like shit

I bet she also didn't care much for country boys of
obscure orientations doing "sport" fishing.

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#586983

On Sunday, June 26, 2016 at 12:16:02 PM UTC-7, HVAC wrote:
> Custard

  Are you active in AUE?


  Mark L. Fergerson

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#587045

On Mon, 27 Jun 2016 14:10:52 -0700 (PDT), nuny@bid.nes
wrote:

> On Sunday, June 26, 2016 at 12:16:02 PM UTC-7, HVAC wrote:
>> Custard
> 
>   Are you active in AUE?
> 
> 
>   Mark L. Fergerson

Are you asking me? What is AUE?

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