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| First post | 2016-04-03 12:52 -0400 |
| Last post | 2016-04-12 23:56 -0700 |
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Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon "Robert Clark" <rgregoryclark@gmSPAMBLOACKail.com> - 2016-04-03 12:52 -0400
Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-04-03 17:07 +0000
Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon Doc O'Leary <droleary@2015usenet1.subsume.com> - 2016-04-04 15:20 +0000
Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-04-04 18:35 +0000
Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon Double-A <double-a3@hush.com> - 2016-04-04 12:14 -0700
Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-04-04 12:58 -0700
Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon Jack Ryan <mixmaster@remailer.cpunk.us> - 2016-04-05 03:50 -0400
Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-04-05 18:20 +0000
Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-04-05 16:14 -0700
Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-04-05 18:47 -0500
Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-04-06 00:00 -0700
Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon Jeff Findley <jfindley@cinci.nospam.rr.com> - 2016-04-07 06:10 -0400
Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-04-07 18:51 +0000
Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-04-08 14:23 -0500
Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-04-08 13:25 -0700
Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-04-09 09:57 -0500
Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-04-09 10:20 -0700
Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-04-17 12:53 -0500
Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-04-17 13:01 -0700
Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-04-17 19:38 -0500
Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-04-18 00:27 -0700
Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-04-06 00:28 +0000
Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon "Robert Clark" <rgregoryclark@gmSPAMBLOACKail.com> - 2016-04-05 22:14 -0400
Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-04-06 03:38 +0000
Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon Mikkel Haaheim <mikkelhaaheim@gmail.com> - 2016-04-13 00:27 -0700
Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-04-13 17:35 +0000
Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon "Robert Clark" <rgregoryclark@gmSPAMBLOACKail.com> - 2016-04-16 11:58 -0400
Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-04-16 16:17 +0000
Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-04-06 00:07 -0700
Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon Jeff Findley <jfindley@cinci.nospam.rr.com> - 2016-04-07 06:24 -0400
Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-04-07 19:03 +0000
Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon Greg Goss <gossg@gossg.org> - 2016-04-05 19:53 -0600
Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-04-06 03:42 +0000
Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon Greg Goss <gossg@gossg.org> - 2016-04-05 23:06 -0600
Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-04-06 18:05 +0000
Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-04-06 12:34 -0700
Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2016-04-07 19:18 +0000
Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-04-07 13:04 -0700
Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2016-04-07 21:07 +0000
Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-04-08 00:03 -0700
Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2016-04-08 17:50 +0000
Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-04-08 13:03 -0700
Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2016-04-08 21:47 +0000
Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-04-08 21:24 -0700
Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2016-04-09 13:55 +0000
Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-04-09 10:08 -0500
Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-04-09 08:51 -0700
Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-04-09 18:07 +0000
Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-04-09 12:49 -0700
Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-04-09 20:16 +0000
Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-04-09 19:07 -0700
Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-04-10 06:16 +0000
Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-04-10 06:46 -0700
Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-04-10 16:23 +0000
Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-04-10 15:19 -0700
Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-04-10 22:49 +0000
Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-04-10 20:02 -0700
Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-04-11 04:05 +0000
Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-04-11 01:41 -0700
Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-04-11 18:18 +0000
Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-04-11 19:20 -0700
Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-04-17 12:53 -0500
Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-04-17 13:02 -0700
Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2016-04-10 12:06 +0000
Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-04-10 06:57 -0700
Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2016-04-10 14:17 +0000
Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-04-10 08:26 -0700
Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2016-04-10 16:40 +0000
Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-04-10 15:38 -0700
Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2016-04-11 19:06 +0000
Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-04-11 19:50 +0000
Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-04-11 20:02 -0700
Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-04-12 17:16 +0000
Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-04-12 15:03 -0700
Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-04-11 19:54 -0700
Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-04-12 17:18 +0000
Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-04-12 15:04 -0700
Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-04-12 22:33 +0000
Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-04-12 21:48 -0700
Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-04-13 05:02 +0000
Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-04-13 00:07 -0700
Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-04-13 17:35 +0000
Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-04-13 12:23 -0700
Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-04-13 20:09 +0000
Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-04-13 13:36 -0700
Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-04-13 21:06 +0000
Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-04-13 19:24 -0700
Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-04-14 02:51 +0000
Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-04-13 21:03 -0700
Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-04-14 04:36 +0000
Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-04-14 00:56 -0700
Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-04-14 18:02 +0000
Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-04-14 13:40 -0700
Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-04-14 22:09 +0000
Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-04-14 15:40 -0700
Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-04-14 22:53 +0000
Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-04-14 17:24 -0700
Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-04-15 00:42 +0000
Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-04-14 19:24 -0700
Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-04-15 04:13 +0000
Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-04-14 22:02 -0700
Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-04-15 21:04 +0000
Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-04-15 15:21 -0700
Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-04-15 22:42 +0000
Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-04-16 01:33 -0700
Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-04-16 16:22 +0000
Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-04-16 11:07 -0700
Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-04-16 19:20 +0000
Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-04-16 12:52 -0700
Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-04-16 20:44 +0000
Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-04-16 19:35 -0700
Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-04-17 05:22 +0000
Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-04-16 23:55 -0700
Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-04-17 12:54 -0500
Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-04-17 13:03 -0700
Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-04-07 20:26 +0000
Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-04-07 14:46 -0700
Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-04-07 22:52 +0000
Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon benj <none@gmail.com> - 2016-04-07 21:25 -0400
Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon Mikkel Haaheim <mikkelhaaheim@gmail.com> - 2016-04-13 00:39 -0700
Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-04-13 17:39 +0000
Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon Mikkel Haaheim <mikkelhaaheim@gmail.com> - 2016-04-15 01:32 -0700
Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-04-15 21:15 +0000
Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon Mikkel Haaheim <mikkelhaaheim@gmail.com> - 2016-04-16 08:51 -0700
Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-04-16 16:28 +0000
Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon Mikkel Haaheim <mikkelhaaheim@gmail.com> - 2016-04-16 10:44 -0700
Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-04-16 18:03 +0000
Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon Mikkel Haaheim <mikkelhaaheim@gmail.com> - 2016-04-16 10:24 -0700
Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-04-16 17:47 +0000
Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon Mikkel Haaheim <mikkelhaaheim@gmail.com> - 2016-04-17 00:59 -0700
Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-04-17 17:29 +0000
Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-04-07 23:49 -0700
Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-04-08 18:24 +0000
Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-04-08 13:10 -0700
Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-04-08 22:40 +0000
Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-04-08 21:55 -0700
Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-04-09 06:11 +0000
Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-04-09 07:49 -0700
Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-04-09 18:21 +0000
Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-04-09 12:57 -0700
Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-04-09 20:29 +0000
Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-04-09 19:30 -0700
Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon Greg Goss <gossg@gossg.org> - 2016-04-09 00:01 -0600
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Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-04-09 18:24 +0000
Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon Doc O'Leary <droleary@2015usenet1.subsume.com> - 2016-04-09 15:49 +0000
Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-04-09 09:01 -0700
Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon benj <none@gmail.com> - 2016-04-09 14:22 -0400
Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-04-09 18:26 +0000
Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-04-09 10:45 -0700
Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-04-09 19:08 +0000
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Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon Doc O'Leary <droleary@2015usenet1.subsume.com> - 2016-04-06 17:39 +0000
Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-04-06 18:08 +0000
Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-04-06 12:36 -0700
Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-04-07 19:06 +0000
Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-04-07 12:59 -0700
Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-04-07 20:28 +0000
Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-04-07 23:52 -0700
Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-04-08 18:26 +0000
Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-04-08 13:14 -0700
Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-04-08 22:42 +0000
Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-04-08 21:57 -0700
Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-04-09 06:14 +0000
Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-04-09 07:52 -0700
Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-04-09 10:09 -0500
Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-04-09 18:31 +0000
Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-04-09 13:00 -0700
Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-04-09 20:34 +0000
Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-04-09 19:42 -0700
Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-04-12 21:07 -0500
Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-04-12 22:25 -0700
Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon Doc O'Leary <droleary@2015usenet1.subsume.com> - 2016-04-07 15:55 +0000
Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-04-07 19:14 +0000
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| From | Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2016-04-11 19:20 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <odmogbl5c0chgnfcv7g7j4dp5rch3p4pfh@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #569765 |
jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>In sci.physics Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> wrote:
>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>
><snip>
>
>>>Then what were women doing with those spinning wheels and looms?
>>>
>>
>> What are you doing with an airplane?
>
>Flying it where ever I want to.
>
So why are there commercial airliners?
>> Why did the colonies import so much cloth and so much finished
>> clothing?
>
>The demand for luxury goods exceeded local supply.
>
Repeating a lie doesn't make it so.
>
>The clothing required to survive was avaiable locally as is shown by the
>fact that indigenous people thrived and built civilizations for thousands
>of years without any imports from Europe.
>
And most of them lived on the edge of survival under soul crushing
conditions.
>
><snip>
>
>>>Then what were women doing with those spinning wheels and looms?
>>>
>>
>> What are you doing with an airplane?
>
>Using it for the intended purpose just like the colonial women were
>doing with the spinning wheels and looms, i.e. making thread and cloth.
>
There are lots of private airplanes. So why are there all those
commercial airliners and cargo planes? This is your argument with
regard to spinning wheels...
>
><snip>
>
>>>Those things are made of wood.
>>>
>>>The majority of people were farmers and made most of their own stuff
>>>on spinning wheels and looms.
>>>
>>
>> So you keep asserting. I've given you cites that prove otherwise.
>
>When things are made of wood, repair parts literally grow on trees, space
>cadet.
>
Gee, I've never seen parts growing on trees, chimpshit. Of course,
chimps never got beyond sticks and rocks, so perhaps that explains
your confusion.
>>>How is it that the indigenous people who had been there for thousands
>>>of years without resupply could survive and thrive but the Europeans
>>>couldn't survive at all without resupply?
>>>
>>
>> Barely.
>
>Ever heard of the Aztecs and Mayans, space cadet?
>
Yeah. Do you know anything at all about the lives of over 99% of the
people living in those 'empires', chimp?
>
>Civilizatons that had large cities, mathematics, astronomy and more
>for thousands of years until the Europeans showed up.
>
And also had crushing poverty, bare survival, and mass extermination
as human sacrifices for virtually all of the inhabitants.
>>>That the indigenous people survived and thrived building civilizations
>>>on their own is de facto proof that support from Europe is not needed
>>>to survive in the Americas.
>>>
>>
>> If you had hundreds of thousands of years leading up to it. Funny how
>> you insist a colony must be 'instant'...
>>
>
>Not hundreds of thousands of years, just thousands of years and never had
>to be resupplied from Europe.
>
You think the Mayan and Aztec empires arose within a thousand years of
when those immigrants arrived? REALLY????
--
"Ignorance is preferable to error, and he is less remote from the
truth who believes nothing than he who believes what is wrong."
-- Thomas Jefferson
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| From | Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> |
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| Date | 2016-04-17 12:53 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <nf0il8$1fes$2@gioia.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #569849 |
On 4/11/2016 9:20 PM, Fred J. McCall wrote:
> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>
>> In sci.physics Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>>
Air, Water ??
try to think it through.
man needs 500 liters of O2 per day
there are 10 men up there, 2 are needed to run the O2 plant, and 2
are needed to run the Water plant, and 2 are needed to run the N2 plant.
so your O2 flow rate is 5,000 liters per day,
your N2 flow rate is 15,000 liters per day (assume a 25% O2)
and about 7.5 liters of water per day per person
so how many tons rocks do you cook per day ?
How much energy is needed to run the rock cooking plant?
What type of rocks work for O2 that are on the surface ?
where do you get 24 liters of water per day ? (assume a 25% recapture rate)
Biofilm questions: where does the lost water go? will the biofilm cause
dammage to the electronics? How much energy is used to keep the
Humidity down to below 70% ?
how do you reprocess the salt bath used for cooking the rocks ?
What rocks do you cook to get N2 ???
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| From | Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2016-04-17 13:02 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <2tq7hbp9cnj914qrr0asma2cpf2uin7aok@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #571202 |
Asked, answered, and the idiocy of some of the questions pointed out
multiple times.
Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> wrote:
>On 4/11/2016 9:20 PM, Fred J. McCall wrote:
>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>>
>>> In sci.physics Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>>>
>Air, Water ??
>
> try to think it through.
>
> man needs 500 liters of O2 per day
> there are 10 men up there, 2 are needed to run the O2 plant, and 2
>are needed to run the Water plant, and 2 are needed to run the N2 plant.
>
>so your O2 flow rate is 5,000 liters per day,
>your N2 flow rate is 15,000 liters per day (assume a 25% O2)
>and about 7.5 liters of water per day per person
>
>so how many tons rocks do you cook per day ?
>How much energy is needed to run the rock cooking plant?
>What type of rocks work for O2 that are on the surface ?
>
>where do you get 24 liters of water per day ? (assume a 25% recapture rate)
>
>Biofilm questions: where does the lost water go? will the biofilm cause
>dammage to the electronics? How much energy is used to keep the
>Humidity down to below 70% ?
>
>how do you reprocess the salt bath used for cooking the rocks ?
>
>What rocks do you cook to get N2 ???
--
"Ignorance is preferable to error, and he is less remote from the
truth who believes nothing than he who believes what is wrong."
-- Thomas Jefferson
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| From | Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2016-04-10 12:06 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <nedfkt$703$1@newsreader4.netcologne.de> |
| In reply to | #569231 |
Fred J McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> schrieb: > Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> wrote: > >>Fred J McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> schrieb: >>> Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> wrote: >>> >>>>Fred J McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> schrieb: >>>> >>>>> This will be more complicated and more 'expensive' than on Earth, >>>>> since you don't have the complex hydrocarbon feedstock on Mars. But, >>>>> as the link points out, "You can make every plastic available on Earth >>>>> from resources on Mars. >>>> >>>>Sure. >>>> >>>>The main question is how much complexity this entails, and how >>>>many people and what sort of technological organization this needs >>>>for a colony to work. >>>> >>> >>><snip irrelevancies> >> >>Not quite irrelevant, it shows that you need thousands of people >>working in the proposed Mars chemical industry alone to be able >>to make simple parts we take for granted here. >> > > Or you'd have more automated equipment because people are more > expensive. Current chemical industry is already automated to a very high degree. Also, automation is expensive in equipment. When equipment fails, you need somebody to repair it. And so on... If you only have a few thousand people, the best you can hope for is technology of around hundread years ago. They didn't have all the complicated, interconnected stuff. The only rubber they could use was natural rubber. Synthetic fabrics were unknown, as were plastics except for Bakelite. So, bring on those cotton plants. > Or you teleoperate. But yes, TOTAL self-sufficiency > (which we don't have in the United States, by the way) takes more than > a dozen people. Incremental steps... To do anything really useful, you need quite a big first step. >>You'll need a at least few hundred thousand people to get a mostly >>self-sufficient colony going, and you will need to supply them >>while the aren't yet self-sufficient. >> > > How did you arrive at that number of people? How much did you assume > was automated and/or being produced by something like a 3D printer? I was talking about chemicals, which are the raw material for 3D printers. Automated is already done. > None of this is magical technology. We use more people-intensive > processes here because people are cheaper. Not really. We (in the West) already automate to the point where it is unrealistic to expect more at the current level of technology. The problem is not only running the processes smoothly on a day-to-day basis. The problem is that you need people for process upsets, for mechanical failures and for maintenance. Mechanical seals fail. Solid gets into pumps and plugs them. Heat exchangers foul. Pumps wear out. Pipes corrode. Insulation of electrical motors degrades over time. And so on... And every five years or so, you have a big turnaround to inspect everything and replace or repair worn or damaged parts. Currently, we do not have the technology to avoid this kind of thing, and automation is not going to help there. If we had the technology, we would be using it now. [As you may have guessed, I work in the chemical industry, so I know a little about the issues involved].
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| From | Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2016-04-10 06:57 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <1jmkgb1u33m011lmavr1ljosf1srlvrr3j@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #569412 |
Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> wrote:
>Fred J McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> schrieb:
>> Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> wrote:
>>
>>>Fred J McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> schrieb:
>>>> Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>Fred J McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> schrieb:
>>>>>
>>>>>> This will be more complicated and more 'expensive' than on Earth,
>>>>>> since you don't have the complex hydrocarbon feedstock on Mars. But,
>>>>>> as the link points out, "You can make every plastic available on Earth
>>>>>> from resources on Mars.
>>>>>
>>>>>Sure.
>>>>>
>>>>>The main question is how much complexity this entails, and how
>>>>>many people and what sort of technological organization this needs
>>>>>for a colony to work.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>><snip irrelevancies>
>>>
>>>Not quite irrelevant, it shows that you need thousands of people
>>>working in the proposed Mars chemical industry alone to be able
>>>to make simple parts we take for granted here.
>>>
>>
>> Or you'd have more automated equipment because people are more
>> expensive.
>
>Current chemical industry is already automated to a very high
>degree.
>
And would be even more automated on a Mars colony.
>
>Also, automation is expensive in equipment. When equipment
>fails, you need somebody to repair it. And so on...
>
People are more expensive on a Mars colony. So needing one guy part
time to do repairs vs needing half a dozen people hand managing things
is a net win.
>
>If you only have a few thousand people, the best you can hope
>for is technology of around hundread years ago.
>
What utter bullshit!
<snip stupid shite>
>
>> Or you teleoperate. But yes, TOTAL self-sufficiency
>> (which we don't have in the United States, by the way) takes more than
>> a dozen people. Incremental steps...
>
>To do anything really useful, you need quite a big first step.
>
Nope.
>
>>>You'll need a at least few hundred thousand people to get a mostly
>>>self-sufficient colony going, and you will need to supply them
>>>while the aren't yet self-sufficient.
>>>
>>
>> How did you arrive at that number of people? How much did you assume
>> was automated and/or being produced by something like a 3D printer?
>
>I was talking about chemicals, which are the raw material for 3D
>printers. Automated is already done.
>
So you ship 100 tonnes of 'ink' and you now have 100 tonnes of tools.
>
>> None of this is magical technology. We use more people-intensive
>> processes here because people are cheaper.
>
>Not really. We (in the West) already automate to the point where
>it is unrealistic to expect more at the current level of
>technology.
>
Wrong. Basic counter-example. Here on Earth we make rocket fuel with
a lot of people involved in the process. On Mars we'll make rocket
fuel using a completely automated factory that requires no human
attention at all (because there won't be any humans there to supervise
when it goes into production).
>
>[As you may have guessed, I work in the chemical industry, so
>I know a little about the issues involved].
>
You work in the EARTH chemical industry, so you have a lot of build-in
assumptions about how to do things that are simply incorrect.
--
"Some people get lost in thought because it's such unfamiliar
territory."
--G. Behn
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| From | Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> |
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| Date | 2016-04-10 14:17 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <nednag$cra$1@newsreader4.netcologne.de> |
| In reply to | #569435 |
Fred J McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> schrieb: > Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> wrote: > >>Fred J McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> schrieb: >>> Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> wrote: >>> >>>>Fred J McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> schrieb: >>>>> Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>>Fred J McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> schrieb: >>>>>> >>>>>>> This will be more complicated and more 'expensive' than on Earth, >>>>>>> since you don't have the complex hydrocarbon feedstock on Mars. But, >>>>>>> as the link points out, "You can make every plastic available on Earth >>>>>>> from resources on Mars. >>>>>> >>>>>>Sure. >>>>>> >>>>>>The main question is how much complexity this entails, and how >>>>>>many people and what sort of technological organization this needs >>>>>>for a colony to work. >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>><snip irrelevancies> >>>> >>>>Not quite irrelevant, it shows that you need thousands of people >>>>working in the proposed Mars chemical industry alone to be able >>>>to make simple parts we take for granted here. >>>> >>> >>> Or you'd have more automated equipment because people are more >>> expensive. >> >>Current chemical industry is already automated to a very high >>degree. >> > > And would be even more automated on a Mars colony. > >> >>Also, automation is expensive in equipment. When equipment >>fails, you need somebody to repair it. And so on... >> > > People are more expensive on a Mars colony. So needing one guy part > time to do repairs vs needing half a dozen people hand managing things > is a net win. Have you actually ever seen a chemical plant from the inside, and do you have an idea of their complexity and what people actually do who work there? We do not currently have the technology to go much further in automation. If you think otherwise, please contact DOW, Dupont, BASF, ... They will be happy to implement your concepts.
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| From | Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2016-04-10 08:26 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <h1skgbtsf3fprf4bgooqn80uamllncm8ct@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #569439 |
Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> wrote:
>Fred J McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> schrieb:
>> Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> wrote:
>>
>>>Fred J McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> schrieb:
>>>> Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>Fred J McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> schrieb:
>>>>>> Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Fred J McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> schrieb:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> This will be more complicated and more 'expensive' than on Earth,
>>>>>>>> since you don't have the complex hydrocarbon feedstock on Mars. But,
>>>>>>>> as the link points out, "You can make every plastic available on Earth
>>>>>>>> from resources on Mars.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Sure.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>The main question is how much complexity this entails, and how
>>>>>>>many people and what sort of technological organization this needs
>>>>>>>for a colony to work.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>><snip irrelevancies>
>>>>>
>>>>>Not quite irrelevant, it shows that you need thousands of people
>>>>>working in the proposed Mars chemical industry alone to be able
>>>>>to make simple parts we take for granted here.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Or you'd have more automated equipment because people are more
>>>> expensive.
>>>
>>>Current chemical industry is already automated to a very high
>>>degree.
>>>
>>
>> And would be even more automated on a Mars colony.
>>
>>>
>>>Also, automation is expensive in equipment. When equipment
>>>fails, you need somebody to repair it. And so on...
>>>
>>
>> People are more expensive on a Mars colony. So needing one guy part
>> time to do repairs vs needing half a dozen people hand managing things
>> is a net win.
>
>Have you actually ever seen a chemical plant from the inside, and
>do you have an idea of their complexity and what people actually
>do who work there?
>
Yes, I have. Have you?
>
>We do not currently have the technology to go much further in
>automation.
>
Of course we do. it's just that (on Earth) the cost of the machinery
and automation is higher than paying the people.
>
>If you think otherwise, please contact DOW, Dupont, BASF, ...
>
>They will be happy to implement your concepts.
>
You really don't have a clue about any of this, do you? Lots of
people work in fast food. Most of them could be replaced by
automation. They aren't (currently) because the cost of the people is
lower than the cost of the automation.
--
"Some people get lost in thought because it's such unfamiliar
territory."
--G. Behn
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| From | Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2016-04-10 16:40 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <nedvmm$je5$1@newsreader4.netcologne.de> |
| In reply to | #569450 |
Fred J McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> schrieb: > Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> wrote: > >>Fred J McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> schrieb: >>> Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> wrote: >>> >>>>Fred J McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> schrieb: >>>>> Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>>Fred J McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> schrieb: >>>>>>> Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>Fred J McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> schrieb: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> This will be more complicated and more 'expensive' than on Earth, >>>>>>>>> since you don't have the complex hydrocarbon feedstock on Mars. But, >>>>>>>>> as the link points out, "You can make every plastic available on Earth >>>>>>>>> from resources on Mars. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>Sure. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>The main question is how much complexity this entails, and how >>>>>>>>many people and what sort of technological organization this needs >>>>>>>>for a colony to work. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>><snip irrelevancies> >>>>>> >>>>>>Not quite irrelevant, it shows that you need thousands of people >>>>>>working in the proposed Mars chemical industry alone to be able >>>>>>to make simple parts we take for granted here. >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Or you'd have more automated equipment because people are more >>>>> expensive. >>>> >>>>Current chemical industry is already automated to a very high >>>>degree. >>>> >>> >>> And would be even more automated on a Mars colony. >>> >>>> >>>>Also, automation is expensive in equipment. When equipment >>>>fails, you need somebody to repair it. And so on... >>>> >>> >>> People are more expensive on a Mars colony. So needing one guy part >>> time to do repairs vs needing half a dozen people hand managing things >>> is a net win. >> >>Have you actually ever seen a chemical plant from the inside, and >>do you have an idea of their complexity and what people actually >>do who work there? >> > > Yes, I have. Have you? Indeed I have. I also work in the chemical industry, and I have a pretty good grasp of the complexity there. >> >>We do not currently have the technology to go much further in >>automation. >> > > Of course we do. it's just that (on Earth) the cost of the machinery > and automation is higher than paying the people. > >> >>If you think otherwise, please contact DOW, Dupont, BASF, ... >> >>They will be happy to implement your concepts. >> > You really don't have a clue about any of this, do you? Lots of > people work in fast food. If you think the requirements of the fast food industry equals that of the chemical industry, you are quite mistaken. Again, contact BASF and tell them how to save on man-hours in their production units. They will be quite happy if the concepts you offer are valid.
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| From | Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2016-04-10 15:38 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <mdklgb1nt9sebjsq39bp5p7qpuck8ts1o2@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #569465 |
Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> wrote:
>Fred J McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> schrieb:
>> Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> wrote:
>>
>>>Fred J McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> schrieb:
>>>> Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>Fred J McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> schrieb:
>>>>>> Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Fred J McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> schrieb:
>>>>>>>> Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Fred J McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> schrieb:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> This will be more complicated and more 'expensive' than on Earth,
>>>>>>>>>> since you don't have the complex hydrocarbon feedstock on Mars. But,
>>>>>>>>>> as the link points out, "You can make every plastic available on Earth
>>>>>>>>>> from resources on Mars.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Sure.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>The main question is how much complexity this entails, and how
>>>>>>>>>many people and what sort of technological organization this needs
>>>>>>>>>for a colony to work.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>><snip irrelevancies>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Not quite irrelevant, it shows that you need thousands of people
>>>>>>>working in the proposed Mars chemical industry alone to be able
>>>>>>>to make simple parts we take for granted here.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Or you'd have more automated equipment because people are more
>>>>>> expensive.
>>>>>
>>>>>Current chemical industry is already automated to a very high
>>>>>degree.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> And would be even more automated on a Mars colony.
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>Also, automation is expensive in equipment. When equipment
>>>>>fails, you need somebody to repair it. And so on...
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> People are more expensive on a Mars colony. So needing one guy part
>>>> time to do repairs vs needing half a dozen people hand managing things
>>>> is a net win.
>>>
>>>Have you actually ever seen a chemical plant from the inside, and
>>>do you have an idea of their complexity and what people actually
>>>do who work there?
>>>
>>
>> Yes, I have. Have you?
>
>Indeed I have. I also work in the chemical industry, and I have
>a pretty good grasp of the complexity there.
>
And are all people there so intellectually dishonest or are you
special?
>>>
>>>We do not currently have the technology to go much further in
>>>automation.
>>>
>>
>> Of course we do. it's just that (on Earth) the cost of the machinery
>> and automation is higher than paying the people.
>>
>>>
>>>If you think otherwise, please contact DOW, Dupont, BASF, ...
>>>
>>>They will be happy to implement your concepts.
>>>
>
>> You really don't have a clue about any of this, do you? Lots of
>> people work in fast food.
>
>If you think the requirements of the fast food industry equals
>that of the chemical industry, you are quite mistaken.
>
If you didn't dishonestly remove the rest of the explanation, you
could have avoided the preceding stupid remark.
ALL economic efforts have just a few inputs - materials, capital, and
labour. All economic efforts will try to swap off among those three
to reduce overall product costs. Now industries can't do too much
about materials cost to swap that off for capital and labour, but they
will add capital and labour costs to try to reduce material waste WHEN
THE NET CHANGE IS POSITIVE. They will also substitute capital for
labour or vice versa WHEN THE NET CHANGE IS POSITIVE. It doesn't
matter if you're talking about the chemical industry or the fast food
industry. Any successful economic activity will behave that way.
The optimum mix among materials, capital, and labour will be DIFFERENT
depending on the relative costs of the three components. Those
relative costs will be DIFFERENT on Mars than they are on Earth. I'm
sorry you find this simple set of concepts so beyond you.
>
>Again, contact BASF and tell them how to save on man-hours in their
>production units.
>
>They will be quite happy if the concepts you offer are valid.
>
Not while labour is at its current cost compared to automation costs,
they won't. Let labour costs get to where they would be on Mars,
though, ...
--
"Some people get lost in thought because it's such unfamiliar
territory."
--G. Behn
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| From | Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2016-04-11 19:06 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <negsja$h2l$1@newsreader4.netcologne.de> |
| In reply to | #569554 |
Fred J McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> schrieb: > And are all people there so intellectually dishonest or are you > special? Trying to discuss rationally with somebody who resorts to ad hominem attacks when arguments run out is futile. Bye.
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| From | jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com |
|---|---|
| Date | 2016-04-11 19:50 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <spbttc-t84.ln1@mail.specsol.com> |
| In reply to | #569780 |
In sci.physics Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> wrote: > Fred J McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> schrieb: > >> And are all people there so intellectually dishonest or are you >> special? > > Trying to discuss rationally with somebody who resorts to ad > hominem attacks when arguments run out is futile. > > Bye. Congratulations McCall, your gratuitous insults and ad hominem attacks have disgusted yet another knowledgeable poster. -- Jim Pennino
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| From | Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2016-04-11 20:02 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <k5pogbdpqu854s7k19gcmqgb8qqgorp484@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #569792 |
jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>In sci.physics Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> wrote:
>> Fred J McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> schrieb:
>>
>>> And are all people there so intellectually dishonest or are you
>>> special?
>>
>> Trying to discuss rationally with somebody who resorts to ad
>> hominem attacks when arguments run out is futile.
>>
>> Bye.
>
>Congratulations McCall, your gratuitous insults and ad hominem attacks
>have disgusted yet another knowledgeable poster.
>
Another like you. So far I haven't seen anything in the way of
'knowledge' from either of you. Back to your 'safe space', Pennino.
--
"Ignorance is preferable to error, and he is less remote from the
truth who believes nothing than he who believes what is wrong."
-- Thomas Jefferson
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| From | jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com |
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| Date | 2016-04-12 17:16 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <55nvtc-24f.ln1@mail.specsol.com> |
| In reply to | #569858 |
In sci.physics Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> wrote: > jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote: > >>In sci.physics Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> wrote: >>> Fred J McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> schrieb: >>> >>>> And are all people there so intellectually dishonest or are you >>>> special? >>> >>> Trying to discuss rationally with somebody who resorts to ad >>> hominem attacks when arguments run out is futile. >>> >>> Bye. >> >>Congratulations McCall, your gratuitous insults and ad hominem attacks >>have disgusted yet another knowledgeable poster. >> > > Another like you. So far I haven't seen anything in the way of > 'knowledge' from either of you. Back to your 'safe space', Pennino. In other words, everyone that isn't you. -- Jim Pennino
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| From | Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2016-04-12 15:03 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <f4sqgbtkkqu7f637jsd2nb9la97it9ta91@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #569934 |
jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>In sci.physics Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> wrote:
>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>>
>>>In sci.physics Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> wrote:
>>>> Fred J McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> schrieb:
>>>>
>>>>> And are all people there so intellectually dishonest or are you
>>>>> special?
>>>>
>>>> Trying to discuss rationally with somebody who resorts to ad
>>>> hominem attacks when arguments run out is futile.
>>>>
>>>> Bye.
>>>
>>>Congratulations McCall, your gratuitous insults and ad hominem attacks
>>>have disgusted yet another knowledgeable poster.
>>>
>>
>> Another like you. So far I haven't seen anything in the way of
>> 'knowledge' from either of you. Back to your 'safe space', Pennino.
>
>In other words, everyone that isn't you.
>
Those are certainly other words. They have nothing to do with what's
gone before, but they're other words, right enough.
--
"You take the lies out of him, and he'll shrink to the size of
your hat; you take the malice out of him, and he'll disappear."
-- Mark Twain
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| From | Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2016-04-11 19:54 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <iloogb5j52h1t6ptfugrkitpe9lt8hlgtg@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #569780 |
Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> wrote:
>Fred J McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> schrieb:
>
>> And are all people there so intellectually dishonest or are you
>> special?
>
>Trying to discuss rationally with somebody who resorts to ad
>hominem attacks when arguments run out is futile.
>
Awww, someone call the WAAAAaaaambulance. He doesn't like it when
he's treated like he acts!
>
>Bye.
>
Don't let the door hit you on the ass, bucko. Back to your 'safe
space' where free expression means you saying whatever you like and
everyone else being "ad hominem" if they disagree.
--
"Der Feige droht nur, wo er sicher ist."
--Johann Wolfgang von Goethe
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| Date | 2016-04-12 17:18 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <p7nvtc-24f.ln1@mail.specsol.com> |
| In reply to | #569856 |
In sci.physics Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> wrote: > Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> wrote: > >>Fred J McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> schrieb: >> >>> And are all people there so intellectually dishonest or are you >>> special? >> >>Trying to discuss rationally with somebody who resorts to ad >>hominem attacks when arguments run out is futile. >> > > Awww, someone call the WAAAAaaaambulance. He doesn't like it when > he's treated like he acts! HE never posted any ad hominem attacks, YOU started the insults as usual. -- Jim Pennino
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| From | Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2016-04-12 15:04 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <n6sqgbt6ktmbivi90pl8oror24ltib7grk@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #569935 |
jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>In sci.physics Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> wrote:
>>
>>>Fred J McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> schrieb:
>>>
>>>> And are all people there so intellectually dishonest or are you
>>>> special?
>>>
>>>Trying to discuss rationally with somebody who resorts to ad
>>>hominem attacks when arguments run out is futile.
>>>
>>
>> Awww, someone call the WAAAAaaaambulance. He doesn't like it when
>> he's treated like he acts!
>>
>
>HE never posted any ad hominem attacks, YOU started the insults as usual.
>
Yeah, no sarcasm from him at all. It must be nice for you living in
your own private Idaho.
--
"You take the lies out of him, and he'll shrink to the size of
your hat; you take the malice out of him, and he'll disappear."
-- Mark Twain
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| Date | 2016-04-12 22:33 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <sm90uc-b7h.ln1@mail.specsol.com> |
| In reply to | #570009 |
In sci.physics Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> wrote: > jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote: > >>In sci.physics Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> wrote: >>> Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> wrote: >>> >>>>Fred J McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> schrieb: >>>> >>>>> And are all people there so intellectually dishonest or are you >>>>> special? >>>> >>>>Trying to discuss rationally with somebody who resorts to ad >>>>hominem attacks when arguments run out is futile. >>>> >>> >>> Awww, someone call the WAAAAaaaambulance. He doesn't like it when >>> he's treated like he acts! >>> >> >>HE never posted any ad hominem attacks, YOU started the insults as usual. >> > > Yeah, no sarcasm from him at all. It must be nice for you living in > your own private Idaho. Nope, no sarcasm from him that I noticed, unlike your continuous stream of bile. -- Jim Pennino
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| From | Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2016-04-12 21:48 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <qrjrgbt60g3iqnu9l9p5s99lthbt2e90ka@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #570028 |
jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote: >In sci.physics Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> wrote: >> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote: >> >>>In sci.physics Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> wrote: >>>> >>>>>Fred J McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> schrieb: >>>>> >>>>>> And are all people there so intellectually dishonest or are you >>>>>> special? >>>>> >>>>>Trying to discuss rationally with somebody who resorts to ad >>>>>hominem attacks when arguments run out is futile. >>>>> >>>> >>>> Awww, someone call the WAAAAaaaambulance. He doesn't like it when >>>> he's treated like he acts! >>>> >>> >>>HE never posted any ad hominem attacks, YOU started the insults as usual. >>> >> >> Yeah, no sarcasm from him at all. It must be nice for you living in >> your own private Idaho. > >Nope, no sarcasm from him that I noticed, unlike your continuous stream >of bile. > And chimpshits don't smell their own. -- You are What you do When it counts.
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| Date | 2016-04-13 05:02 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <2g01uc-pej.ln1@mail.specsol.com> |
| In reply to | #570089 |
In sci.physics Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> wrote: > jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote: > >>In sci.physics Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> wrote: >>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote: >>> >>>>In sci.physics Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>>Fred J McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> schrieb: >>>>>> >>>>>>> And are all people there so intellectually dishonest or are you >>>>>>> special? >>>>>> >>>>>>Trying to discuss rationally with somebody who resorts to ad >>>>>>hominem attacks when arguments run out is futile. >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Awww, someone call the WAAAAaaaambulance. He doesn't like it when >>>>> he's treated like he acts! >>>>> >>>> >>>>HE never posted any ad hominem attacks, YOU started the insults as usual. >>>> >>> >>> Yeah, no sarcasm from him at all. It must be nice for you living in >>> your own private Idaho. >> >>Nope, no sarcasm from him that I noticed, unlike your continuous stream >>of bile. >> > > And chimpshits don't smell their own. And yet another stream of bile... -- Jim Pennino
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