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| Started by | john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> |
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| First post | 2018-12-30 17:36 -0800 |
| Last post | 2019-01-09 21:35 -0800 |
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Push Gravity john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-12-30 17:36 -0800
Re: Push Gravity moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-12-31 01:45 +0000
Re: Push Gravity john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-12-30 18:02 -0800
Re: Push Gravity moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-12-31 02:37 +0000
Re: Push Gravity john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-12-30 19:28 -0800
Re: Push Gravity Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-12-30 22:09 -0600
Re: Push Gravity Paul Dakota <jsf@iaswmh.nb> - 2018-12-31 07:14 +0000
Re: Push Gravity Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-12-31 09:48 -0600
Re: Push Gravity moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-12-31 04:57 +0000
Re: Push Gravity poraty6@gmail.com - 2018-12-30 23:19 -0800
Re: Push Gravity poraty6@gmail.com - 2018-12-30 23:23 -0800
Re: Push Gravity Paul Dakota <jsf@iaswmh.nb> - 2018-12-31 07:34 +0000
Re: Push Gravity poraty6@gmail.com - 2018-12-31 00:26 -0800
Re: Push Gravity James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2018-12-31 00:31 -0800
Re: Push Gravity john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-12-31 03:20 -0800
Re: Push Gravity john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-12-31 04:40 -0800
Re: Push Gravity john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-12-31 05:06 -0800
Re: Push Gravity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-12-31 14:30 +0000
Re: Push Gravity john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-12-31 08:42 -0800
Re: Push Gravity john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-12-31 09:27 -0800
Re: Push Gravity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-12-31 18:07 +0000
Re: Push Gravity john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-12-31 10:19 -0800
Re: Push Gravity john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-12-31 10:25 -0800
Re: Push Gravity Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-12-31 12:53 -0600
Re: Push Gravity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-12-31 19:29 +0000
Re: Push Gravity Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> - 2019-01-02 14:08 -0800
Re: Push Gravity john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2019-01-02 14:26 -0800
Re: Push Gravity Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> - 2019-01-02 14:44 -0800
Re: Push Gravity benj <benj.fake@gmail.com> - 2019-01-02 19:15 -0500
Re: Push Gravity Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> - 2019-01-02 18:36 -0800
Re: Push Gravity Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2019-01-02 22:54 -0600
Re: Push Gravity Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> - 2019-01-03 11:23 -0800
Re: Push Gravity poraty6@gmail.com - 2019-01-03 14:53 -0800
Re: Push Gravity Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> - 2019-01-03 21:40 -0800
Re: Push Gravity poraty6@gmail.com - 2019-01-03 22:49 -0800
Re: Push Gravity Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> - 2019-01-04 12:53 -0800
Re: Push Gravity john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2019-01-05 09:23 -0800
Re: Push Gravity moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2019-01-05 18:23 +0000
Re: Push Gravity john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2019-01-05 11:04 -0800
Re: Push Gravity moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2019-01-05 19:59 +0000
Re: Push Gravity Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> - 2019-01-06 10:26 -0800
Re: Push Gravity john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2019-01-05 11:27 -0800
Re: Push Gravity moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2019-01-05 20:18 +0000
Re: Push Gravity john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2019-01-05 12:45 -0800
Re: Push Gravity poraty6@gmail.com - 2019-01-05 11:30 -0800
Re: Push Gravity Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> - 2019-01-05 13:20 -0800
Re: Push Gravity benj <benj.fake@gmail.com> - 2019-01-05 18:30 -0500
Re: Push Gravity john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2019-01-05 16:23 -0800
Re: Push Gravity pnalsing@gmail.com - 2019-01-05 17:47 -0800
Re: Push Gravity john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2019-01-05 18:47 -0800
Re: Push Gravity Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2019-01-05 23:08 -0600
Re: Push Gravity john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2019-01-05 21:19 -0800
Re: Push Gravity pnalsing@gmail.com - 2019-01-05 21:01 -0800
Re: Push Gravity john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2019-01-05 21:56 -0800
Re: Push Gravity pnalsing@gmail.com - 2019-01-05 22:37 -0800
Re: Push Gravity john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2019-01-06 06:31 -0800
Re: Push Gravity moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2019-01-06 16:54 +0000
Re: Push Gravity john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2019-01-06 09:30 -0800
Re: Push Gravity moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2019-01-06 18:27 +0000
Re: Push Gravity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2019-01-06 21:30 +0000
Re: Push Gravity john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2019-01-06 13:38 -0800
Re: Push Gravity john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2019-01-06 13:45 -0800
Re: Push Gravity john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2019-01-06 13:53 -0800
Re: Push Gravity john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2019-01-06 14:04 -0800
Re: Push Gravity moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2019-01-07 00:46 +0000
Re: Push Gravity pnalsing@gmail.com - 2019-01-06 14:05 -0800
Re: Push Gravity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2019-01-06 22:16 +0000
Re: Push Gravity moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2019-01-07 00:44 +0000
Re: Push Gravity Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2019-01-07 02:53 +0100
Re: Push Gravity moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2019-01-07 02:11 +0000
Re: Push Gravity Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2019-01-07 03:57 +0100
Re: Push Gravity moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2019-01-08 15:55 +0000
Re: Push Gravity Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2019-01-09 01:49 +0100
Re: Push Gravity moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2019-01-09 04:48 +0000
Re: Push Gravity Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2019-01-09 15:27 +0100
Re: Push Gravity Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2019-01-07 02:47 +0100
Re: Push Gravity Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2019-01-07 10:58 -0600
Re: Push Gravity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2019-01-06 22:16 +0000
Re: Push Gravity john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2019-01-06 16:21 -0800
Re: Push Gravity moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2019-01-07 00:38 +0000
Re: Push Gravity Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2019-01-07 02:54 +0100
Re: Push Gravity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2019-01-06 22:16 +0000
Re: Push Gravity moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2019-01-07 00:35 +0000
Re: Push Gravity moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2019-01-07 00:51 +0000
Re: Push Gravity Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2019-01-07 03:02 +0100
Re: Push Gravity benj <benj.fake@gmail.com> - 2019-01-08 15:04 -0500
Re: Push Gravity poraty6@gmail.com - 2019-01-07 01:34 -0800
Re: Push Gravity john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2019-01-08 03:07 -0800
Re: Push Gravity john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2019-01-08 04:26 -0800
Re: Push Gravity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2019-01-08 14:31 +0000
Re: Push Gravity "reber G=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2019-01-08 11:55 -0800
Re: Push Gravity moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2019-01-08 15:32 +0000
Re: Push Gravity john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2019-01-08 04:32 -0800
Re: Push Gravity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2019-01-08 14:31 +0000
Re: Push Gravity moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2019-01-08 15:37 +0000
Re: Push Gravity john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2019-01-08 13:21 -0800
Re: Push Gravity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2019-01-08 14:31 +0000
Re: Push Gravity moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2019-01-08 15:30 +0000
Re: Push Gravity benj <benj.fake@gmail.com> - 2019-01-08 15:02 -0500
Re: Push Gravity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2019-01-08 23:00 +0000
Re: Push Gravity benj <benj.fake@gmail.com> - 2019-01-08 23:36 -0500
Re: Push Gravity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2019-01-09 14:45 +0000
Re: Push Gravity benj <benj.fake@gmail.com> - 2019-01-09 15:43 -0500
Re: Push Gravity john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2019-01-09 12:52 -0800
Re: Push Gravity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2019-01-09 21:39 +0000
Re: Push Gravity benj <benj.fake@gmail.com> - 2019-01-09 19:18 -0500
Re: Push Gravity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2019-01-10 01:27 +0000
Re: Push Gravity john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2019-01-09 17:50 -0800
Re: Push Gravity poraty6@gmail.com - 2019-01-09 18:38 -0800
Re: Push Gravity poraty6@gmail.com - 2019-01-09 18:27 -0800
Re: Push Gravity pnalsing@gmail.com - 2019-01-06 11:11 -0800
Re: Push Gravity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2019-01-06 21:07 +0000
Re: Push Gravity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2019-01-06 21:07 +0000
Re: Push Gravity Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2019-01-05 20:52 -0800
Re: Push Gravity poraty6@gmail.com - 2019-01-06 04:55 -0800
Re: Push Gravity Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2019-01-06 05:12 -0800
Re: Push Gravity Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2019-01-06 10:34 -0600
Re: Push Gravity "reber G=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2019-01-06 12:39 -0800
Re: Push Gravity Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2019-01-07 09:31 -0600
Re: Push Gravity poraty6@gmail.com - 2019-01-08 05:00 -0800
Re: Push Gravity Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> - 2019-01-06 10:57 -0800
Re: Push Gravity Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> - 2019-01-06 10:30 -0800
Re: Push Gravity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2019-01-06 21:07 +0000
Re: Push Gravity benj <benj.fake@gmail.com> - 2019-01-08 14:54 -0500
Re: Push Gravity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2019-01-08 23:00 +0000
Re: Push Gravity benj <benj.fake@gmail.com> - 2019-01-08 23:33 -0500
Re: Push Gravity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2019-01-09 14:45 +0000
Re: Push Gravity benj <benj.fake@gmail.com> - 2019-01-09 15:42 -0500
Re: Push Gravity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-12-31 19:29 +0000
Re: Push Gravity john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-12-31 12:05 -0800
Re: Push Gravity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-12-31 20:50 +0000
Re: Push Gravity john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-12-31 13:13 -0800
Re: Push Gravity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-12-31 21:48 +0000
Re: Push Gravity john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-12-31 14:01 -0800
Re: Push Gravity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-12-31 22:11 +0000
Re: Push Gravity john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-12-31 14:17 -0800
Re: Push Gravity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-12-31 22:31 +0000
Re: Push Gravity john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-12-31 14:50 -0800
Re: Push Gravity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2019-01-01 00:00 +0000
Re: Push Gravity john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-12-31 16:13 -0800
Re: Push Gravity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2019-01-01 01:47 +0000
Re: Push Gravity john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-12-31 18:00 -0800
Re: Push Gravity moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2019-01-01 13:36 +0000
Re: Push Gravity poraty6@gmail.com - 2019-01-04 02:33 -0800
Re: Push Gravity moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2019-01-04 16:26 +0000
Re: Push Gravity poraty6@gmail.com - 2019-01-04 08:47 -0800
Re: Push Gravity benj <benj.fake@gmail.com> - 2018-12-31 22:28 -0500
Re: Push Gravity john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-12-31 19:51 -0800
Re: Push Gravity turcaudjp@gmail.com - 2019-01-01 02:13 -0800
Re: Push Gravity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2019-01-01 16:33 +0000
Re: Push Gravity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2019-01-01 16:33 +0000
Re: Push Gravity poraty6@gmail.com - 2019-01-02 15:12 -0800
Re: Push Gravity poraty6@gmail.com - 2019-01-02 15:09 -0800
Re: Push Gravity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2019-01-02 23:24 +0000
Re: Push Gravity john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2019-01-02 15:45 -0800
Re: Push Gravity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2019-01-02 23:54 +0000
Re: Push Gravity john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2019-01-02 15:57 -0800
Re: Push Gravity benj <benj.fake@gmail.com> - 2019-01-02 19:23 -0500
Re: Push Gravity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2019-01-03 02:44 +0000
I've been slandering UseNutters for 28 years now. Jeff-Relf.Me @. - 2019-01-02 16:19 -0800
Re: I've been slandering UseNutters for 28 years now. "Sir Gregory Hall, Esq." <greghall@yacht_maester.fake> - 2019-01-02 19:27 -0500
Re: I've been slandering UseNutters for 28 years now. % <persent@gmail.com> - 2019-01-02 17:30 -0700
Re: I've been slandering UseNutters for 28 years now. % <persent@gmail.com> - 2019-01-02 17:30 -0700
PeeScent's fifth grade education. Jeff-Relf.Me @. - 2019-01-02 16:39 -0800
Re: PeeScent's fifth grade education. Jeff-Relf.Me@ - 2019-01-02 17:43 -0700
Re: PeeScent's fifth grade education. "Sir Gregory Hall, Esq." <greghall@yacht_maester.fake> - 2019-01-02 19:53 -0500
Re: PeeScent's fifth grade education. Jeff-Relf.Me@ - 2019-01-02 17:59 -0700
Re: PeeScent is homeless, I assume. Jeff-Relf.Me@ - 2019-01-03 07:13 -0700
Re: PeeScent's fifth grade education. "Sir Gregory Hall, Esq." <greghall@yacht_maester.fake> - 2019-01-02 19:47 -0500
Re: PeeScent's fifth grade education. % <persent@gmail.com> - 2019-01-02 17:51 -0700
Re: Push Gravity benj <benj.fake@gmail.com> - 2019-01-02 19:22 -0500
Re: Push Gravity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2019-01-03 02:44 +0000
Re: Push Gravity poraty6@gmail.com - 2019-01-02 23:49 -0800
Re: Push Gravity poraty6@gmail.com - 2019-01-03 02:47 -0800
Re: Push Gravity poraty6@gmail.com - 2019-01-03 02:53 -0800
Re: Push Gravity Arther Jackson <invalid@example.com> - 2019-01-04 15:10 -0800
Re: Push Gravity % <persent@gmail.com> - 2019-01-04 16:12 -0700
Re: Push Gravity benj <benj.fake@gmail.com> - 2019-01-04 19:41 -0500
Re: Push Gravity poraty6@gmail.com - 2019-01-04 23:17 -0800
Re: Push Gravity benj <benj.fake@gmail.com> - 2019-01-02 19:17 -0500
Re: Push Gravity "reber G=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2019-01-03 14:41 -0800
Re: Push Gravity Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2019-01-06 10:35 -0600
Re: Push Gravity poraty6@gmail.com - 2019-01-02 23:45 -0800
Re: Push Gravity poraty6@gmail.com - 2019-01-01 02:19 -0800
Re: Push Gravity poraty6@gmail.com - 2018-12-31 01:59 -0800
Re: Push Gravity poraty6@gmail.com - 2018-12-31 02:15 -0800
Re: Push Gravity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-12-31 14:14 +0000
Re: Push Gravity "reber G=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2018-12-31 09:57 -0800
Re: Push Gravity mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2018-12-31 14:08 -0800
Re: Push Gravity "reber G=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2019-01-03 14:42 -0800
Push Gravity Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2019-01-09 19:53 -0800
Re: Push Gravity pnalsing@gmail.com - 2019-01-09 20:49 -0800
Re: Push Gravity Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2019-01-09 21:03 -0800
Re: Push Gravity pnalsing@gmail.com - 2019-01-09 21:35 -0800
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| From | Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2018-12-31 18:07 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <q0dlt4$pbk$3@gioia.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #721737 |
john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> wrote: > Odd > “the fact that kinetic energy DOES NOT HAVE any > direction, and so statements like “kinetic energy toward” this or that just > don’t have meaning in physics” > > But Odd!! If the electrons were radiating, they would ‘spiral into the nucleus”. > That’s YOUR objection. > So if your ‘distributed electron’ (hahaha) loses some energy, then you’re > saying that suddenly it WILL change its directionless kinetic energy into > directed towards the nucleus? No. Kinetic energy has no direction. You are getting concepts all jumbled together because you don’t know what any of them mean. As usual. > And spiral in? > Because obviously the base level energy DOESNT, right? > > Sorry, but so many of your physics concepts just don’t seem to HAVE any meaning. You know? But they do! Just not what you GUESS they might mean. Heaven forbid you should actually READ what the concepts mean. > > How can “directionless” mean “always away from, counter to, the > gravitational AND electric attraction of the nucleus? > And how can “directionless “, when given MORE energy, result in the > excited Bohr series of energy changes? Huhn? > > -- Odd Bodkin — Maker of fine toys, tools, tables
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| From | john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2018-12-31 10:19 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <00fd41d1-ae2c-4288-a17b-9068e57af9b1@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #721743 |
Odd “But they do! “ But you can’t explain them simply with words, can you? ‘Directionless kinetic energy’, for instance. How can something move, but not move? If that energy is keeping the electrons AWAY from the proton, how is it ‘directionless’? Explain simply in words (he won’t)
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| From | john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2018-12-31 10:25 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <c282d79e-ede1-4c6e-8651-5cd76e16ef29@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #721744 |
Odd- by the way- post a picture of some of your ‘woodwork’ for us. I’m sure you can do that without tipping anyone off to your real identity. You’re a great talker, but not so much a walker
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| From | Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> |
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| Date | 2018-12-31 12:53 -0600 |
| Message-ID | <q0dojl$15c5$1@gioia.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #721749 |
On 12/31/2018 12:25 PM, john wrote: > Odd- by the way- post a picture of some of your ‘woodwork’ for us. I’m sure you can do that without tipping anyone off to your real identity. > You’re a great talker, but not so much a walker > Odds OK, he uses "push" woodworking.
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| From | Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2018-12-31 19:29 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <q0dqn2$1fei$2@gioia.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #721749 |
john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> wrote: > Odd- by the way- post a picture of some of your ‘woodwork’ for us. I’m > sure you can do that without tipping anyone off to your real identity. > You’re a great talker, but not so much a walker > Why are my products—or for that matter, anything about what I do for a living—be relevant for physics? Is what you do to put food on the table relevant? -- Odd Bodkin — Maker of fine toys, tools, tables
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| From | Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2019-01-02 14:08 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <b1b440bc-6190-4db5-a10a-84bdf1fe3704@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #721763 |
On Monday, December 31, 2018 at 2:29:42 PM UTC-5, Odd Bodkin wrote:
> john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Odd- by the way- post a picture of some of your ‘woodwork’ for us. I’m
> > sure you can do that without tipping anyone off to your real identity.
> > You’re a great talker, but not so much a walker
>
> Why are my products—or for that matter, anything about what I do for a
> living—be relevant for physics?
Good point, why should what you, or anyone else, do for a living, be physics-relevant.
> Is what you do to put food on the table relevant?
> --
> Odd Bodkin — Maker of fine toys, tools, tables
It even matters where the ideal table is put in spacetime.
Last time I ate, food was very physical. As it will be next meal.
Wait... pause... wait. Is it, the infamous physics saying, is it
meal wa(y)s changes...”
-------- OR ----------
me alwa(y)s changes...”?
-- Mahipal “IPMM... माहिपाल ७६३८: d(me) != 0 ... me alwa(y)s changes...”
Enjo(y)... Salute… Cheers... Open your M I N D… Time it is Is IS 3PM somePlace.
/\ "If the line between science fiction and
/ science fact doesn't drive you crazy,
/\ \ then you're just not tr(y)ing!"
\ /\/\ / \ \/ Mahipal Virdy
/ == \ / \/\/ The |meforce> Paradox
\/ http://mahipal7638.files.wordpress.com/
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| From | john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2019-01-02 14:26 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <3f86488f-9c14-4601-8c35-838aa70d3007@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #722080 |
Mahipal “Good point, why should what you, or anyone else, do for a living, be physics-relevant. ” Unless they’re a physicist, which obviously Odd is not. Nice to hear from you, MyPal. How goes?
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| From | Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2019-01-02 14:44 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <e9ee9662-c742-4619-8cd6-a43454d7a28c@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #722082 |
On Wednesday, January 2, 2019 at 5:26:46 PM UTC-5, john wrote: > Mahipal > “Good point, why should what you, or anyone else, do for a living, be physics-relevant. ” > Unless they’re a physicist, which obviously Odd is not. Well, in a way, we all, at any age, have physics thrust upon us. Somewhere I read "Physics is that what physicists do." > Nice to hear from you, MyPal. How goes? Thanks John. I've mostly been in read-only mode. When recently, guys like MM, stated they've interacted in sci physics for 25+ years... It just made me think why time flies so fast for all. So I posted today. -- Mahipal “IPMM... माहिपाल ७६३८: d(me) != 0 ... me alwa(y)s changes...” Enjo(y)... Salute… Cheers... Open your M I N D… Time it is Is IS 3PM somePlace.
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| From | benj <benj.fake@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2019-01-02 19:15 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <q0jk76$i9l$2@gioia.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #722080 |
On 1/2/2019 5:08 PM, Mahipal wrote: > On Monday, December 31, 2018 at 2:29:42 PM UTC-5, Odd Bodkin wrote: >> john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> wrote: >>> Odd- by the way- post a picture of some of your ‘woodwork’ for us. I’m >>> sure you can do that without tipping anyone off to your real identity. >>> You’re a great talker, but not so much a walker >> >> Why are my products—or for that matter, anything about what I do for a >> living—be relevant for physics? > > Good point, why should what you, or anyone else, do for a living, be physics-relevant. > >> Is what you do to put food on the table relevant? >> -- >> Odd Bodkin — Maker of fine toys, tools, tables > > It even matters where the ideal table is put in spacetime. > > Last time I ate, food was very physical. As it will be next meal. > Wait... pause... wait. Is it, the infamous physics saying, is it > meal wa(y)s changes...” > -------- OR ---------- > me alwa(y)s changes...”? > > > -- Mahipal “IPMM... माहिपाल ७६३८: d(me) != 0 ... me alwa(y)s changes...” > Enjo(y)... Salute… Cheers... Open your M I N D… Time it is Is IS 3PM somePlace. > > /\ "If the line between science fiction and > / science fact doesn't drive you crazy, > /\ \ then you're just not tr(y)ing!" > \ /\/\ / \ \/ Mahipal Virdy > / == \ / \/\/ The |meforce> Paradox > \/ http://mahipal7638.files.wordpress.com/ > LOOPERJI! You are BACK! What a wondrous gift to all of us for the new year!
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| From | Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2019-01-02 18:36 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <89e7d5e3-df8c-47af-847b-9716b3c38551@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #722097 |
On Wednesday, January 2, 2019 at 7:15:39 PM UTC-5, benj wrote: > On 1/2/2019 5:08 PM, Mahipal wrote: > > On Monday, December 31, 2018 at 2:29:42 PM UTC-5, Odd Bodkin wrote: > >> john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> wrote: > >>> Odd- by the way- post a picture of some of your ‘woodwork’ for us. I’m > >>> sure you can do that without tipping anyone off to your real identity. > >>> You’re a great talker, but not so much a walker > >> > >> Why are my products—or for that matter, anything about what I do for a > >> living—be relevant for physics? > > > > Good point, why should what you, or anyone else, do for a living, be physics-relevant. > > > >> Is what you do to put food on the table relevant? > >> -- > >> Odd Bodkin — Maker of fine toys, tools, tables > > > > It even matters where the ideal table is put in spacetime. > > > > Last time I ate, food was very physical. As it will be next meal. > > Wait... pause... wait. Is it, the infamous physics saying, is it > > meal wa(y)s changes...” > > -------- OR ---------- > > me alwa(y)s changes...”? > > > > > > -- Mahipal “IPMM... माहिपाल ७६३८: d(me) != 0 ... me alwa(y)s changes...” > > Enjo(y)... Salute… Cheers... Open your M I N D… Time it is Is IS 3PM somePlace. > > > > /\ "If the line between science fiction and > > / science fact doesn't drive you crazy, > > /\ \ then you're just not tr(y)ing!" > > \ /\/\ / \ \/ Mahipal Virdy > > / == \ / \/\/ The |meforce> Paradox > > \/ http://mahipal7638.files.wordpress.com/ > > > > > LOOPERJI! > You are BACK! What a wondrous gift to all of us for the new year! It's kind of nice to be thought of, happy new times to you too BenjJi! I've just been reading here as of late. Thinking what do and will people write/discuss here. Extremely contemplative I, pondering why? One thing that stands out, is that people seem to interact with only, well mostly, with just the nearest to realtime posts. Like a pulse. -- Mahipal == माहिपाल "My Pal" or "Maple" Loops, S(y)rup, Wood. IPMM ७६३८!
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| From | Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> |
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| Date | 2019-01-02 22:54 -0600 |
| Message-ID | <q0k4hh$mrq$1@gioia.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #722116 |
On 1/2/2019 8:36 PM, Mahipal wrote: > On Wednesday, January 2, 2019 at 7:15:39 PM UTC-5, benj wrote: >> On 1/2/2019 5:08 PM, Mahipal wrote: >>> On Monday, December 31, 2018 at 2:29:42 PM UTC-5, Odd Bodkin wrote: >>>> john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> Odd- by the way- post a picture of some of your ‘woodwork’ for us. I’m >>>>> sure you can do that without tipping anyone off to your real identity. >>>>> You’re a great talker, but not so much a walker >>>> >>>> Why are my products—or for that matter, anything about what I do for a >>>> living—be relevant for physics? >>> >>> Good point, why should what you, or anyone else, do for a living, be physics-relevant. >>> >>>> Is what you do to put food on the table relevant? >>>> -- >>>> Odd Bodkin — Maker of fine toys, tools, tables >>> >>> It even matters where the ideal table is put in spacetime. >>> >>> Last time I ate, food was very physical. As it will be next meal. >>> Wait... pause... wait. Is it, the infamous physics saying, is it >>> meal wa(y)s changes...” >>> -------- OR ---------- >>> me alwa(y)s changes...”? >>> >>> >>> -- Mahipal “IPMM... माहिपाल ७६३८: d(me) != 0 ... me alwa(y)s changes...” >>> Enjo(y)... Salute… Cheers... Open your M I N D… Time it is Is IS 3PM somePlace. >>> >>> /\ "If the line between science fiction and >>> / science fact doesn't drive you crazy, >>> /\ \ then you're just not tr(y)ing!" >>> \ /\/\ / \ \/ Mahipal Virdy >>> / == \ / \/\/ The |meforce> Paradox >>> \/ http://mahipal7638.files.wordpress.com/ >>> >> >> >> LOOPERJI! >> You are BACK! What a wondrous gift to all of us for the new year! > > It's kind of nice to be thought of, happy new times to you too BenjJi! > > I've just been reading here as of late. Thinking what do and will > people write/discuss here. Extremely contemplative I, pondering why? > > One thing that stands out, is that people seem to interact with only, > well mostly, with just the nearest to realtime posts. Like a pulse. > > -- Mahipal == माहिपाल "My Pal" or "Maple" Loops, S(y)rup, Wood. IPMM ७६३८! > Welcome back Mahipal! always enjoyed your urls we have a few new brain dead trolls from other troll newsgroups that are posting junk in here now, so the place has moved away from physics even more. sci.physics has one of the highest rates of posting, guess their group is dying off.
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| From | Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2019-01-03 11:23 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <93b389bf-a60f-4362-8dee-b0b637f0a316@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #722122 |
On Wednesday, January 2, 2019 at 11:54:12 PM UTC-5, Sergio wrote: > On 1/2/2019 8:36 PM, Mahipal wrote: > > On Wednesday, January 2, 2019 at 7:15:39 PM UTC-5, benj wrote: > >> On 1/2/2019 5:08 PM, Mahipal wrote: > >>> On Monday, December 31, 2018 at 2:29:42 PM UTC-5, Odd Bodkin wrote: > >>>> john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> wrote: > >>>>> Odd- by the way- post a picture of some of your ‘woodwork’ for us. I’m > >>>>> sure you can do that without tipping anyone off to your real identity. > >>>>> You’re a great talker, but not so much a walker > >>>> > >>>> Why are my products—or for that matter, anything about what I do for a > >>>> living—be relevant for physics? > >>> > >>> Good point, why should what you, or anyone else, do for a living, be physics-relevant. > >>> > >>>> Is what you do to put food on the table relevant? > >>>> -- > >>>> Odd Bodkin — Maker of fine toys, tools, tables > >>> > >>> It even matters where the ideal table is put in spacetime. > >>> > >>> Last time I ate, food was very physical. As it will be next meal. > >>> Wait... pause... wait. Is it, the infamous physics saying, is it > >>> meal wa(y)s changes...” > >>> -------- OR ---------- > >>> me alwa(y)s changes...”? > >>> > >>> > >>> -- Mahipal “IPMM... माहिपाल ७६३८: d(me) != 0 ... me alwa(y)s changes...” > >>> Enjo(y)... Salute… Cheers... Open your M I N D… Time it is Is IS 3PM somePlace. > >>> > >>> /\ "If the line between science fiction and > >>> / science fact doesn't drive you crazy, > >>> /\ \ then you're just not tr(y)ing!" > >>> \ /\/\ / \ \/ Mahipal Virdy > >>> / == \ / \/\/ The |meforce> Paradox > >>> \/ http://mahipal7638.files.wordpress.com/ > >>> > >> > >> > >> LOOPERJI! > >> You are BACK! What a wondrous gift to all of us for the new year! > > > > It's kind of nice to be thought of, happy new times to you too BenjJi! > > > > I've just been reading here as of late. Thinking what do and will > > people write/discuss here. Extremely contemplative I, pondering why? > > > > One thing that stands out, is that people seem to interact with only, > > well mostly, with just the nearest to realtime posts. Like a pulse. > > > > -- Mahipal == माहिपाल "My Pal" or "Maple" Loops, S(y)rup, Wood. IPMM ७६३८! > > > > Welcome back Mahipal! always enjoyed your urls Double thanks SergioJi! Technically, I never left. I've been reading your posts. Keep up the good words. My urls are, by now, are frozen in time. I haven't changed or added to them at all. I figure I'd make a terrible podcaster/blogger who might have to post daily. Like everyone at CNN, MSNBC, FOX, ... frantically deciphering Trump's latest lie. It's a life to get the proverbial meal to one's table. It's funny curious how physics leads to nuclear weapons and then politicians place the fear of using them on people. > we have a few new brain dead trolls from other troll newsgroups that are > posting junk in here now, so the place has moved away from physics even > more. sci.physics has one of the highest rates of posting, guess their > group is dying off. For a while, I didn't know what acronym ROS stood for. A river never does. The river just keeps flowing and flowing... So what you're suggesting is that there exist usenet newsgroups dedicated to trollisms only? Interesting. I remember when I first started interacting in sci.physics and I held higher/educational expectations of it. Well I was in college then. Long justification short, it doesn't matter if one posts using their real name or is anonymous. It only matters what the contents of the words used to render any message are. Focus on content, the friendships will follow. -- Mahipal == माहिपाल "My Pal" or "Maple" Loops, S(y)rup, Wood. IPMM ७६३८!
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| From | poraty6@gmail.com |
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| Date | 2019-01-03 14:53 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <09dc4139-fcf5-44d7-8828-20569f9c1bd9@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #722141 |
On Thursday, January 3, 2019 at 9:23:25 PM UTC+2, Mahipal wrote: > On Wednesday, January 2, 2019 at 11:54:12 PM UTC-5, Sergio wrote: > > On 1/2/2019 8:36 PM, Mahipal wrote: > > > On Wednesday, January 2, 2019 at 7:15:39 PM UTC-5, benj wrote: > > >> On 1/2/2019 5:08 PM, Mahipal wrote: > > >>> On Monday, December 31, 2018 at 2:29:42 PM UTC-5, Odd Bodkin wrote: > > >>>> john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> wrote: > > >>>>> Odd- by the way- post a picture of some of your ‘woodwork’ for us. I’m > > >>>>> sure you can do that without tipping anyone off to your real identity. > > >>>>> You’re a great talker, but not so much a walker > > >>>> > > >>>> Why are my products—or for that matter, anything about what I do for a > > >>>> living—be relevant for physics? > > >>> > > >>> Good point, why should what you, or anyone else, do for a living, be physics-relevant. > > >>> > > >>>> Is what you do to put food on the table relevant? > > >>>> -- > > >>>> Odd Bodkin — Maker of fine toys, tools, tables > > >>> > > >>> It even matters where the ideal table is put in spacetime. > > >>> > > >>> Last time I ate, food was very physical. As it will be next meal. > > >>> Wait... pause... wait. Is it, the infamous physics saying, is it > > >>> meal wa(y)s changes...” > > >>> -------- OR ---------- > > >>> me alwa(y)s changes...”? > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> -- Mahipal “IPMM... माहिपाल ७६३८: d(me) != 0 ... me alwa(y)s changes...” > > >>> Enjo(y)... Salute… Cheers... Open your M I N D… Time it is Is IS 3PM somePlace. > > >>> > > >>> /\ "If the line between science fiction and > > >>> / science fact doesn't drive you crazy, > > >>> /\ \ then you're just not tr(y)ing!" > > >>> \ /\/\ / \ \/ Mahipal Virdy > > >>> / == \ / \/\/ The |meforce> Paradox > > >>> \/ http://mahipal7638.files.wordpress.com/ > > >>> > > >> > > >> > > >> LOOPERJI! > > >> You are BACK! What a wondrous gift to all of us for the new year! > > > > > > It's kind of nice to be thought of, happy new times to you too BenjJi! > > > > > > I've just been reading here as of late. Thinking what do and will > > > people write/discuss here. Extremely contemplative I, pondering why? > > > > > > One thing that stands out, is that people seem to interact with only, > > > well mostly, with just the nearest to realtime posts. Like a pulse. > > > > > > -- Mahipal == माहिपाल "My Pal" or "Maple" Loops, S(y)rup, Wood. IPMM ७६३८! > > > > > > > Welcome back Mahipal! always enjoyed your urls > > Double thanks SergioJi! Technically, I never left. I've been reading > your posts. Keep up the good words. > > My urls are, by now, are frozen in time. I haven't changed or added to > them at all. I figure I'd make a terrible podcaster/blogger who might > have to post daily. Like everyone at CNN, MSNBC, FOX, ... frantically > deciphering Trump's latest lie. It's a life to get the proverbial meal > to one's table. It's funny curious how physics leads to nuclear > weapons and then politicians place the fear of using them on people. > > > we have a few new brain dead trolls from other troll newsgroups that are > > posting junk in here now, so the place has moved away from physics even > > more. sci.physics has one of the highest rates of posting, guess their > > group is dying off. > > For a while, I didn't know what acronym ROS stood for. A river never does. > The river just keeps flowing and flowing... > > So what you're suggesting is that there exist usenet newsgroups > dedicated to trollisms only? Interesting. I remember when I first > started interacting in sci.physics and I held higher/educational > expectations of it. Well I was in college then. > > Long justification short, it doesn't matter if one posts using their > real name or is anonymous. It only matters what the contents of the > words used to render any message are. Focus on content, the > friendships will follow. > > -- Mahipal == माहिपाल "My Pal" or "Maple" Loops, S(y)rup, Wood. IPMM ७६३८! ===================== generally you are right we have to concentrate nn substance ! but a big but we have to be certain that once you are anonymous we cannot be sure you behave honestly without some private interests of private interests that prevent you fron from telling ***all** that you have in your mind or even sometimes admit bring wrong in other words there are people that honesty is their first priority !(private business first … even if it is damaging your business believe it or not there are such people !! =============== TIA y .p ===============
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| From | Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2019-01-03 21:40 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <6b9094e5-ed6d-48d6-aaef-bdd34ad33c8b@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #722158 |
On Thursday, January 3, 2019 at 5:53:20 PM UTC-5, por...@gmail.com wrote: > On Thursday, January 3, 2019 at 9:23:25 PM UTC+2, Mahipal wrote: > > On Wednesday, January 2, 2019 at 11:54:12 PM UTC-5, Sergio wrote: [trim] > > > we have a few new brain dead trolls from other troll newsgroups that are > > > posting junk in here now, so the place has moved away from physics even > > > more. sci.physics has one of the highest rates of posting, guess their > > > group is dying off. > > > > For a while, I didn't know what acronym ROS stood for. A river never does. > > The river just keeps flowing and flowing... > > > > So what you're suggesting is that there exist usenet newsgroups > > dedicated to trollisms only? Interesting. I remember when I first > > started interacting in sci.physics and I held higher/educational > > expectations of it. Well I was in college then. > > > > Long justification short, it doesn't matter if one posts using their > > real name or is anonymous. It only matters what the contents of the > > words used to render any message are. Focus on content, the > > friendships will follow. > > > > -- Mahipal == माहिपाल "My Pal" or "Maple" Loops, S(y)rup, Wood. IPMM ७६३८! > ===================== > generally you are right > > we have to concentrate nn substance ! > but a big but > we have to be certain that > once you are anonymous > we cannot be sure you behave honestly > without some private interests of > private interests that prevent you fron > from telling ***all** that you have in your mind > or even sometimes admit bring wrong > in other words > there are people that honesty is their first > priority !(private business first … > even if it is damaging your business > believe it or not > there are such people !! > =============== > > TIA > y .p > =============== Hi PoratJi. You're right too, that honesty by anonymity is rare. I remember an anonymous poster (his name withheld for even he doesn't care, may he feel safe and secure forever) tried to accuse me of being anonymous. He was projecting. His reasoning went like this: If I'm anonymous then so must everyone else be. Googling the two words (push, gravity) yields: About 84,100,000 results (0.53 seconds) Gravity is a Push | Odd Books oddbooks.com/oddbooks/wcwright.html As its title suggests, this book expounds a theory that the force of gravity is a push rather than a pull. This is not an idea invented by Wright - a Frenchman named ... Where am I going to have/find time to read 84.1 million results?! -- Mahipal == माहिपाल "My Pal" or "Maple" Loops, S(y)rup, Wood. IPMM ७६३८!
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| From | poraty6@gmail.com |
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| Date | 2019-01-03 22:49 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <0a022b93-482f-4e35-884c-71003279251d@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #722189 |
On Friday, January 4, 2019 at 7:40:31 AM UTC+2, Mahipal wrote: > On Thursday, January 3, 2019 at 5:53:20 PM UTC-5, por...@gmail.com wrote: > > On Thursday, January 3, 2019 at 9:23:25 PM UTC+2, Mahipal wrote: > > > On Wednesday, January 2, 2019 at 11:54:12 PM UTC-5, Sergio wrote: > [trim] > > > > we have a few new brain dead trolls from other troll newsgroups that are > > > > posting junk in here now, so the place has moved away from physics even > > > > more. sci.physics has one of the highest rates of posting, guess their > > > > group is dying off. > > > > > > For a while, I didn't know what acronym ROS stood for. A river never does. > > > The river just keeps flowing and flowing... > > > > > > So what you're suggesting is that there exist usenet newsgroups > > > dedicated to trollisms only? Interesting. I remember when I first > > > started interacting in sci.physics and I held higher/educational > > > expectations of it. Well I was in college then. > > > > > > Long justification short, it doesn't matter if one posts using their > > > real name or is anonymous. It only matters what the contents of the > > > words used to render any message are. Focus on content, the > > > friendships will follow. > > > > > > -- Mahipal == माहिपाल "My Pal" or "Maple" Loops, S(y)rup, Wood. IPMM ७६३८! > > ===================== > > generally you are right > > > > we have to concentrate nn substance ! > > but a big but > > we have to be certain that > > once you are anonymous > > we cannot be sure you behave honestly > > without some private interests of > > private interests that prevent you fron > > from telling ***all** that you have in your mind > > or even sometimes admit bring wrong > > in other words > > there are people that honesty is their first > > priority !(private business first … > > even if it is damaging your business > > believe it or not > > there are such people !! > > =============== > > > > TIA > > y .p > > =============== > > Hi PoratJi. You're right too, that honesty by anonymity is rare. > > I remember an anonymous poster (his name withheld for even he doesn't > care, may he feel safe and secure forever) tried to accuse me of being > anonymous. He was projecting. His reasoning went like this: > If I'm anonymous then so must everyone else be. > > Googling the two words (push, gravity) yields: > > About 84,100,000 results (0.53 seconds) > Gravity is a Push | Odd Books > oddbooks.com/oddbooks/wcwright.html > > As its title suggests, this book expounds a theory that the force of > gravity is a push rather than a pull. This is not an idea invented by ========================== not invented by whom ??? and who was lately and not even lately (along years ) fighting like tiger... for it ??? including explanations and tangible explanations about it again and again see the THE Y CIRCLON MECHANISM ? ================================ TIA Y.P ============== > Wright - a Frenchman named ... > > Where am I going to have/find time to read 84.1 million results?! > > -- Mahipal == माहिपाल "My Pal" or "Maple" Loops, S(y)rup, Wood. IPMM ७६३८!
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| From | Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2019-01-04 12:53 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <42d9aece-349b-4954-b787-11751fb1c890@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #722195 |
On Friday, January 4, 2019 at 1:49:26 AM UTC-5, por...@gmail.com wrote: > On Friday, January 4, 2019 at 7:40:31 AM UTC+2, Mahipal wrote: > > On Thursday, January 3, 2019 at 5:53:20 PM UTC-5, por...@gmail.com wrote: > > > On Thursday, January 3, 2019 at 9:23:25 PM UTC+2, Mahipal wrote: > > > > On Wednesday, January 2, 2019 at 11:54:12 PM UTC-5, Sergio wrote: > > [trim] > > > > > we have a few new brain dead trolls from other troll newsgroups that are > > > > > posting junk in here now, so the place has moved away from physics even > > > > > more. sci.physics has one of the highest rates of posting, guess their > > > > > group is dying off. > > > > > > > > For a while, I didn't know what acronym ROS stood for. A river never does. > > > > The river just keeps flowing and flowing... > > > > > > > > So what you're suggesting is that there exist usenet newsgroups > > > > dedicated to trollisms only? Interesting. I remember when I first > > > > started interacting in sci.physics and I held higher/educational > > > > expectations of it. Well I was in college then. > > > > > > > > Long justification short, it doesn't matter if one posts using their > > > > real name or is anonymous. It only matters what the contents of the > > > > words used to render any message are. Focus on content, the > > > > friendships will follow. > > > > > > > > -- Mahipal == माहिपाल "My Pal" or "Maple" Loops, S(y)rup, Wood. IPMM ७६३८! > > > ===================== > > > generally you are right > > > > > > we have to concentrate nn substance ! > > > but a big but > > > we have to be certain that > > > once you are anonymous > > > we cannot be sure you behave honestly > > > without some private interests of > > > private interests that prevent you fron > > > from telling ***all** that you have in your mind > > > or even sometimes admit bring wrong > > > in other words > > > there are people that honesty is their first > > > priority !(private business first … > > > even if it is damaging your business > > > believe it or not > > > there are such people !! > > > =============== > > > > > > TIA > > > y .p > > > =============== > > > > Hi PoratJi. You're right too, that honesty by anonymity is rare. > > > > I remember an anonymous poster (his name withheld for even he doesn't > > care, may he feel safe and secure forever) tried to accuse me of being > > anonymous. He was projecting. His reasoning went like this: > > If I'm anonymous then so must everyone else be. > > > > Googling the two words (push, gravity) yields: > > > > About 84,100,000 results (0.53 seconds) > > Gravity is a Push | Odd Books > > oddbooks.com/oddbooks/wcwright.html > > > > As its title suggests, this book expounds a theory that the force of > > gravity is a push rather than a pull. This is not an idea invented by > > ========================== > not invented by whom ??? The website https://oddbooks.co.uk/oddbooks/wcwright.html states: "As its title suggests, this book expounds a theory that the force of gravity is a push rather than a pull. This is not an idea invented by Wright - a Frenchman named George-Louis LeSage is usually credited with coming up with the first version of it in 1784." I've always enjoyed discussing whether ideas either discovered or invented. > and who was lately and not even lately (along years ) > fighting like tiger... for it ??? > including explanations > and tangible explanations about it again and again > see the > THE Y CIRCLON MECHANISM ? Why the question mark after MECHANISM? > ================================ > TIA > Y.P > ============== > > > Wright - a Frenchman named ... > > > > Where am I going to have/find time to read 84.1 million results?! > > > > -- Mahipal == माहिपाल "My Pal" or "Maple" Loops, S(y)rup, Wood. IPMM ७६३८! -- Mahipal == माहिपाल "My Pal" or "Maple" Loops, S(y)rup, Wood. IPMM ७६३८!
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| From | john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2019-01-05 09:23 -0800 |
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Mahipal “"As its title suggests, this book expounds a theory that the force of gravity is a push rather than a pull. This is not an idea invented by Wright - a Frenchman named George-Louis LeSage is usually credited with coming up with the first version of it in 1784." I've always enjoyed discussing whether ideas either discovered or invented. ” Actually, Fatio came up with it before LeSage. My addition is basically that it is the matter, itself, that provides these ‘ultra mundane particles’. They come from the electrons radiating. The objection to electrons radiating is they will run out of energy. One of the objections to Fatio/LeSage is the matter that absorbs will quickly have TOO MUCH energy. Hmm. Seems like the protons just have to feed it back to the electrons and it’s all good
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| From | moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) |
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| Date | 2019-01-05 18:23 +0000 |
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| In reply to | #722261 |
john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> writes: >Actually, Fatio came up with it before LeSage. >My addition is basically that it is the matter, itself, that provides >these 'ultra mundane particles'. They come from the electrons radiating. >The objection to electrons radiating is they will run out of energy. >One of the objections to Fatio/LeSage is the matter that absorbs will >quickly have TOO MUCH energy. >Hmm. >Seems like the protons just have to feed it back to the electrons and >it's all good Umm, no. Now you have something different from LeSage gravity. LeSage gravity has 'ultra mundane particles' coming uniformly from OUTSIDE, and since they purportedly provide the energy of gravitation, they must provide energy to mass when they are absorbed. Too much energy. Now you purportedly have matter radiating 'ultra mundane particles'/energy (which would push everything apart!), something completely different. It can sort of work if your radiation has negative momentum (allowing matter to attract) but now what you have is essentially standard gravity with an unnecessary dynamic radiation layered on top of it. Gravity, if viewed as a force (GR says it isn't), is static, there is no need for any radiation of negative momentum to implement it. All the radiation adds is a complication of where all this unnecessary magic energy comes from and where does it go. Not to mention all kinds of stuff you simply ignore. What about neutrons? They are affected by gravity somewhat more than protons. You don't even mention neutrons at all, even though they contribute more than half the mass of non-hydrogen ordinary matter! What about the fact that electrons are affected by gravity less than protons (by a factor of 1800!) ? And what about other particles, antimatter and energy itself? Gravity affects all energy, not just electrons and protons. What about free/isolated electrons and protons? What is _electric_ force? Electrons and protons attract each other much more strongly than gravitation, as well as repel themselves. (No, I don't expect any real answer for any of this. All you do is pull crap from your butt, fling it against the wall and hope it sticks, not applying any actual thought)
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| From | john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2019-01-05 11:04 -0800 |
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| In reply to | #722264 |
MM “Now you have something different from LeSage gravity. LeSage gravity has 'ultra mundane particles' coming uniformly from OUTSIDE, “ Outside where?
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| From | moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) |
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| Date | 2019-01-05 19:59 +0000 |
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| In reply to | #722265 |
john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> writes: >MM >"Now you have something different from LeSage gravity. LeSage >gravity has 'ultra mundane particles' coming uniformly from OUTSIDE, " >Outside where? You'd have to ask LeSage, but he's dead. It appears that he intended that they're from infinitely far away, but it should 'work' as long as they come from well outside the region of the gravitating bodies. That is, if it worked at all (it doesn't).
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