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| Started by | poraty6@gmail.com |
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| First post | 2018-12-06 03:04 -0800 |
| Last post | 2018-12-07 18:07 -0800 |
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I SOLE THE '' Y CIRCLON'' MECHANISM'' - FROM ARCHI P U R !! poraty6@gmail.com - 2018-12-06 03:04 -0800
I SOLE THE '' Y CIRCLON'' MECHANISM'' - FROM ARCHI P U R !! john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-12-06 07:26 -0800
Re: I SOLE THE '' Y CIRCLON'' MECHANISM'' - FROM ARCHI P U R !! poraty6@gmail.com - 2018-12-06 08:52 -0800
Re: I SOLE THE '' Y CIRCLON'' MECHANISM'' - FROM ARCHI P U R !! john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-12-06 09:35 -0800
Re: I SOLE THE '' Y CIRCLON'' MECHANISM'' - FROM ARCHI P U R !! poraty6@gmail.com - 2018-12-06 16:47 -0800
Re: I SOLE THE '' Y CIRCLON'' MECHANISM'' - FROM ARCHI P U R !! poraty6@gmail.com - 2018-12-06 22:08 -0800
Re: I SOLE THE '' Y CIRCLON'' MECHANISM'' - FROM ARCHI P U R !! john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-12-07 04:03 -0800
Re: I SOLE THE '' Y CIRCLON'' MECHANISM'' - FROM ARCHI P U R !! poraty6@gmail.com - 2018-12-07 18:05 -0800
Re: I SOLE THE '' Y CIRCLON'' MECHANISM'' - FROM ARCHI P U R !! Edgardo Fahqtardo <invalid@gmail.com> - 2018-12-06 18:45 -0800
Re: I SOLE THE '' Y CIRCLON'' MECHANISM'' - FROM ARCHI P U R !! Allan Smithee <inval@example.com> - 2018-12-07 08:02 -0800
Re: I SOLE THE '' Y CIRCLON'' MECHANISM'' - FROM ARCHI P U R !! john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-12-07 09:26 -0800
Re: I SOLE THE '' Y CIRCLON'' MECHANISM'' - FROM ARCHI P U R !! moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-12-07 17:37 +0000
Re: I SOLE THE '' Y CIRCLON'' MECHANISM'' - FROM ARCHI P U R !! john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-12-08 04:07 -0800
Re: I SOLE THE '' Y CIRCLON'' MECHANISM'' - FROM ARCHI P U R !! poraty6@gmail.com - 2018-12-08 04:23 -0800
Re: I SOLE THE '' Y CIRCLON'' MECHANISM'' - FROM ARCHI P U R !! poraty6@gmail.com - 2018-12-08 04:19 -0800
Re: I SOLE THE '' Y CIRCLON'' MECHANISM'' - FROM ARCHI P U R !! john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-12-08 04:44 -0800
Re: I SOLE THE '' Y CIRCLON'' MECHANISM'' - FROM ARCHI P U R !! moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-12-08 17:10 +0000
Re: I SOLE THE '' Y CIRCLON'' MECHANISM'' - FROM ARCHI P U R !! moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-12-08 17:19 +0000
Re: I SOLE THE '' Y CIRCLON'' MECHANISM'' - FROM ARCHI P U R !! poraty6@gmail.com - 2018-12-07 18:07 -0800
| From | poraty6@gmail.com |
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| Date | 2018-12-06 03:04 -0800 |
| Subject | I SOLE THE '' Y CIRCLON'' MECHANISM'' - FROM ARCHI P U R !! |
| Message-ID | <b4661c79-6fbb-4c38-bef1-fa6c375e0732@googlegroups.com> |
I stole the '''Y circlon mechanism'' that can be along years -seen at my site or may be from Archi Plutonium Uranium Rectum ??? --- do you see how idiotic I became to deal with that relentless psycho P who unwillingly promoting me... and my un precedented findings see my site from 1993 !! ============= TIA Y.P ====================
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| From | john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2018-12-06 07:26 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <7e7fe591-c454-422a-95fc-82c6e6f4d6e9@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #716913 |
porat “I stole the '''Y circlon mechanism'' ” I remember it well. I was discussing whether photons would curve because of their spin. You ran with it. They don’t
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| From | poraty6@gmail.com |
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| Date | 2018-12-06 08:52 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <d283799f-356e-4561-be51-56389fd5e12d@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #716920 |
On Thursday, December 6, 2018 at 5:26:32 PM UTC+2, john wrote: > porat > “I stole the > '''Y circlon mechanism'' ” ======== stole ?? from whom ???!! > > I remember it well. > I was discussing whether photons would curve because of their spin. > You ran with it. > They don’t ==? according to me DECDES AGO ! the photon moves IN A HELIX OVEMENT !! do you know/understand what is a helix movement?? TIA Y.P ===============
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| From | john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2018-12-06 09:35 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <9689f991-dd2d-4578-9e1a-7f82d8cf1f49@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #716934 |
P “do you know/understand what is a helix movement?? TIA Y.P ” Photons go straight, bro
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| From | poraty6@gmail.com |
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| Date | 2018-12-06 16:47 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <7130872f-0b01-4ecf-99a6-61c08ab47f43@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #716940 |
On Thursday, December 6, 2018 at 7:35:18 PM UTC+2, john wrote: > P > “do you know/understand what is a helix movement?? > TIA > Y.P ” > Photons go straight, bro ======================= ???? ===== Y.P
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| From | poraty6@gmail.com |
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| Date | 2018-12-06 22:08 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <f36d7c1a-de31-452b-a606-c7df59320e55@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #717013 |
On Friday, December 7, 2018 at 2:47:51 AM UTC+2, por...@gmail.com wrote: > On Thursday, December 6, 2018 at 7:35:18 PM UTC+2, john wrote: > > P > > “do you know/understand what is a helix movement?? > > TIA > > Y.P ” > > Photons go straight, bro > ======================= > ???? > ===== > Y.P ===================== a helix is a helix if you like a sort of a spring see in your basics books and now what is some of its geometric properties that are very relevant to our discussion : its horizontal cross section is a sort of a sinusoid (is youlke a sinus yet even its ''Vertical'' cross section is as well sinus /cosines graph DOES IT 'SCLIK' SOME THIGIN YOUR MIND ??.. ====== TIA Y.P ====================
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| From | john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2018-12-07 04:03 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <790e23cf-33e7-4095-8375-a65db5faa716@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #717058 |
por “horizontal cross section is a sort of a sinusoid (is youlke a sinus ” Oh, you mean it’s wave? It is a curtate-cycloid from the side, but something else from the top http://users.accesscomm.ca/sefton/PHOTON.GIF
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| From | poraty6@gmail.com |
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| Date | 2018-12-07 18:05 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <533f44ac-17c5-4722-af2f-69ea92ce8e45@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #717069 |
On Friday, December 7, 2018 at 2:03:06 PM UTC+2, john wrote: > por > “horizontal cross section is a sort of a sinusoid (is youlke > a sinus ” > Oh, you mean it’s wave? > It is a curtate-cycloid from the side, but something else from the top > http://users.accesscomm.ca/sefton/PHOTON.GIF ========================== Yess the photon does it together just by one kind of motion motion THE HELIX ! even nature ''likes'' - simplicity !! yet My*** circlon mechanism* explain it moreover that 'y circlon' is even- 'all particle plus forces builder !! just one basic particle that does all !! does it not sound beautiful ?? =========== TIA Y.P ==============
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| From | Edgardo Fahqtardo <invalid@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2018-12-06 18:45 -0800 |
| Subject | Re: I SOLE THE '' Y CIRCLON'' MECHANISM'' - FROM ARCHI P U R !! |
| Message-ID | <pucmrr$100n$1@gioia.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #716913 |
Roses are red George Bush is dead Y. Porat's brain falled out of his head
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| From | Allan Smithee <inval@example.com> |
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| Date | 2018-12-07 08:02 -0800 |
| Subject | Re: I SOLE THE '' Y CIRCLON'' MECHANISM'' - FROM ARCHI P U R !! |
| Message-ID | <pue5j2$1cif$1@gioia.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #716913 |
Get brain idiot
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| From | john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2018-12-07 09:26 -0800 |
| Subject | Re: I SOLE THE '' Y CIRCLON'' MECHANISM'' - FROM ARCHI P U R !! |
| Message-ID | <8870fbfc-8e9a-430a-bfcf-719c3551e129@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #717077 |
Allan “Get brain idiot ” You have such GOOD ideas, Alan!!
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| From | moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) |
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| Date | 2018-12-07 17:37 +0000 |
| Subject | Re: I SOLE THE '' Y CIRCLON'' MECHANISM'' - FROM ARCHI P U R !! |
| Message-ID | <pueb42$sqf$1@pcls7.std.com> |
| In reply to | #717090 |
john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> writes: >Allan >"Get brain idiot >" >You have such GOOD ideas, Alan!! So now that you are convinced that is a good idea, when are you going to do so? It will be refreshing to have a normal conversation with you, and not have to do with OCD-riddled and Little Pharma-addled precessing spinny thing crapola.
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| From | john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2018-12-08 04:07 -0800 |
| Subject | Re: I SOLE THE '' Y CIRCLON'' MECHANISM'' - FROM ARCHI P U R !! |
| Message-ID | <db7b3a84-9764-4675-91dc-c50afe359e6a@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #717093 |
MM from ftp://ftp.ga.gov.au/geodesy-outgoing/vlbi/people/zharov/AR579.pdf “Uniform linear motion can be explained by a model invoking precession of the jet. “ Reading further, quasars are moving MUCH faster than galaxies READ, Michael
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| From | poraty6@gmail.com |
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| Date | 2018-12-08 04:23 -0800 |
| Subject | Re: I SOLE THE '' Y CIRCLON'' MECHANISM'' - FROM ARCHI P U R !! |
| Message-ID | <57853ecf-20c9-4caa-86d7-ddda8c752cff@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #717302 |
On Saturday, December 8, 2018 at 2:07:45 PM UTC+2, john wrote: > MM > from ftp://ftp.ga.gov.au/geodesy-outgoing/vlbi/people/zharov/AR579.pdf > “Uniform linear motion can be explained by a model invoking precession of the jet. “ > > Reading further, quasars are moving MUCH faster than galaxies > READ, Michael ====================== ?????!!! Y.P ==================
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| From | poraty6@gmail.com |
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| Date | 2018-12-08 04:19 -0800 |
| Subject | Re: I SOLE THE '' Y CIRCLON'' MECHANISM'' - FROM ARCHI P U R !! |
| Message-ID | <a2c12caf-af25-4f2a-95c6-0ab8a06ecca8@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #717302 |
On Saturday, December 8, 2018 at 2:07:45 PM UTC+2, john wrote:
> MM
> from ftp://ftp.ga.gov.au/geodesy-outgoing/vlbi/people/zharov/AR579.pdf
> “Uniform linear motion can be explained by a model invoking precession of the jet. “
>
> Reading further, quasars are moving MUCH faster than galaxies
> READ, Michael
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moving faster than galaxies ???~!
sound reasonable to you ???!!
does it make sense to y0u ??
think for instance about **mass**of a photon
and
mass of a galaxy !!!
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what about conservation of energy !!
there is no such thing for you ??
3
don't you think that there is some upper limit of velocity
Y.P
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| From | john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2018-12-08 04:44 -0800 |
| Subject | Re: I SOLE THE '' Y CIRCLON'' MECHANISM'' - FROM ARCHI P U R !! |
| Message-ID | <779ca4c9-8a89-4d7c-9cbf-1084c92f38a5@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #717305 |
por “moving faster than galaxies ???~! sound reasonable to you ???!! does it make sense to y0u ?? think for instanc” Halting Arp observed two quasars to be travelling in opposite directions away from a galaxy, each going about 1/9c. His conclusion and mine is that Quasar-pairs are born and grow within galaxies until they achieve a certain trigger-size and then shoot each other away
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| From | moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) |
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| Date | 2018-12-08 17:10 +0000 |
| Subject | Re: I SOLE THE '' Y CIRCLON'' MECHANISM'' - FROM ARCHI P U R !! |
| Message-ID | <pugtto$2id$1@pcls7.std.com> |
| In reply to | #717302 |
john writes: >from ftp://ftp.ga.gov.au/geodesy-outgoing/vlbi/people/zharov/AR579.pdf ooh, that article must have given you multiple orgasms, given the number of times the word "precession" was used.. Hope you cleaned it up. >"Uniform linear motion can be explained by a model invoking precession of >the jet." Yeah, so what? "Precession of a black hole could arise for several reasons: geodetic precession, or precession due to the presence of a second gravitating body in the system (in the latter case, it is not important, whether this body is point-like, as in a binary system, or extended, as in the case of a supermassive black hole at the center of a quasar surrounded by an accretion disk)." GR math in strong gravitational fields is very complex, but yes it does produce precession when the axis of the accretion disk is not aligned with the rotational axis of the black hole. Nobody denies that. Also note that the angle is relatively small. Nothing is getting all retarded and doing a full 360 degree precession like in all your non-models.
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| From | moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) |
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| Date | 2018-12-08 17:19 +0000 |
| Subject | Re: I SOLE THE '' Y CIRCLON'' MECHANISM'' - FROM ARCHI P U R !! |
| Message-ID | <pugue6$2id$2@pcls7.std.com> |
| In reply to | #717302 |
john writes: >from ftp://ftp.ga.gov.au/geodesy-outgoing/vlbi/people/zharov/AR579.pdf I need to modify this Far Side cartoon: https://www.flickr.com/photos/sluggerotoole/153603564 and change "What we say to dogs" to "What an astronomy paper says", change "What they hear" to "What John Sefton hears", and change every instance of "Ginger" to "precession"...
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| From | poraty6@gmail.com |
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| Date | 2018-12-07 18:07 -0800 |
| Subject | Re: I SOLE THE '' Y CIRCLON'' MECHANISM'' - FROM ARCHI P U R !! |
| Message-ID | <c0522071-90a7-471a-9ed4-730be552388c@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #717090 |
On Friday, December 7, 2018 at 7:26:31 PM UTC+2, john wrote: > Allan > “Get brain idiot > ” > You have such GOOD ideas, Alan!! ==================== (:-) yes ! good for himself !!! ===
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