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Arguing with lunatics

Started byOdd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com>
First post2016-04-21 14:53 -0500
Last post2016-04-25 13:10 -0500
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  Arguing with lunatics Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-04-21 14:53 -0500
    Re: Arguing with lunatics jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-04-21 20:11 +0000
      Re: Arguing with lunatics "Rocky" <wookiee@att.net> - 2016-04-21 16:27 -0500
        Re: Arguing with lunatics jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-04-21 21:37 +0000
          Re: Arguing with lunatics "Rocky" <wookiee@att.net> - 2016-04-22 12:58 -0500
            Re: Arguing with lunatics jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-04-22 20:56 +0000
              Re: Arguing with lunatics john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-04-22 14:45 -0700
                Re: Arguing with lunatics jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-04-22 22:46 +0000
                  Re: Arguing with lunatics "Rocky" <wookiee@att.net> - 2016-04-25 13:07 -0500
                    Re: Arguing with lunatics jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-04-25 18:35 +0000
                      Re: Arguing with lunatics "Rocky" <wookiee@att.net> - 2016-04-25 15:25 -0500
                        Re: Arguing with lunatics moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-04-25 20:34 +0000
                          Re: Arguing with lunatics "Rocky" <wookiee@att.net> - 2016-04-25 15:57 -0500
                            Re: Arguing with lunatics jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-04-25 21:12 +0000
                              Re: Arguing with lunatics "Rocky" <wookiee@att.net> - 2016-04-28 14:03 -0500
                                Re: Arguing with lunatics jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-04-28 19:50 +0000
                                  Re: Arguing with lunatics "Rocky" <wookiee@att.net> - 2016-05-01 12:57 -0500
                                    Re: Arguing with lunatics jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-05-01 19:39 +0000
                            Re: Arguing with lunatics "Bast" <fakename@nomail.invalid> - 2016-04-25 18:04 -0400
                              Re: Arguing with lunatics Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-04-25 17:23 -0500
                                Re: Arguing with lunatics HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-04-25 16:50 -0700
                              Re: Arguing with lunatics moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-04-25 22:41 +0000
                        Re: Arguing with lunatics jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-04-25 21:10 +0000
                          Re: Arguing with lunatics "Rocky" <wookiee@att.net> - 2016-04-26 13:13 -0500
                            Re: Arguing with lunatics jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-04-26 19:06 +0000
                Re: Arguing with lunatics ClutterFreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2016-04-22 18:08 -0700
                  Re: Arguing with lunatics "Rocky" <wookiee@att.net> - 2016-04-25 15:29 -0500
                    Re: Arguing with lunatics ClutterFreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2016-04-25 14:08 -0700
                      Re: Arguing with lunatics "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> - 2016-04-25 14:53 -0700
                Re: Arguing with lunatics Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-04-23 08:33 -0500
                  Re: Arguing with lunatics HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-04-23 06:41 -0700
                    Re: Arguing with lunatics benj <nobodyxx@gmail> - 2016-04-23 12:58 -0400
                      Re: Arguing with lunatics Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-04-23 12:33 -0500
                        Re: Arguing with lunatics HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-04-23 10:56 -0700
                          Re: Arguing with lunatics benj <nobodyxx@gmail> - 2016-04-23 23:29 -0400
                            Re: Arguing with lunatics Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-04-23 22:42 -0500
                        Re: Arguing with lunatics benj <nobodyxx@gmail> - 2016-04-24 00:36 -0400
                  Re: Arguing with lunatics "Rocky" <wookiee@att.net> - 2016-04-25 13:10 -0500

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#573255

FromHVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com>
Date2016-04-25 16:50 -0700
Message-ID<d977da25-ee37-43d3-96c3-64233b698d58@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#573238
Odd Bodkin said
It is remarkable to me how people like this who know literally nothing 
about building engineering or forensic science can conclude that if a 
building collapsed due to impact, then there would be no "surviving 
corners". People who know nothing would not be able to judge whether 
there should be surviving corners or not. People who rant and foam from 
a position of ignorance deserve to be put on a chain in the backyard 
where dogs customarily bark at nothing. 
----------------

Well, BJ makes the same claim. However he has said that in the past he used to have a business card that said 'scientist' right on it.

So that vets him 

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#573241

Frommoroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney)
Date2016-04-25 22:41 +0000
Message-ID<nfm6e6$j7r$1@pcls7.std.com>
In reply to#573233
"Bast" <fakename@nomail.invalid> writes:

>I hope Trump keeps his promise to have a real investigation on 9/11 after 
>he's elected.
>When the truth comes out,  a lot of shill posters here will lose their jobs.

Rocky is going to lose his job?  Isn't he already an unemployed truck 
crasher or something?

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#573212

Fromjimp@specsol.spam.sux.com
Date2016-04-25 21:10 +0000
Message-ID<pnd2vc-e3c.ln1@mail.specsol.com>
In reply to#573185
Rocky <wookiee@att.net> wrote:
> 
> <jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com> wrote in message 
> news:8k42vc-h7b.ln1@mail.specsol.com...
>> Rocky <wookiee@att.net> wrote:
>>>
>>> <jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com> wrote in message
>>> news:77mquc-m4g.ln1@mail.specsol.com...
>>>> john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> Who here thinks a jet plane
>>>>> full of fuel can, all by itself,
>>>>> bring down a building like
>>>>> WTC1, and who thinks falling
>>>>> debris and "scattered fires"
>>>>> can bring down a building like WTC7?
>>>>> (How did the fires start?)
>>>>
>>>> From the airplane crash, idiot.
>>>
>>> But what type of airplane does not have shadows and consisted of 3 
>>> different
>>> images?
>>
>> The kind in your delusions.
> 
> You are a complete idiot because you didn't even check to see that the bogus 
> 9/11 attack involved the use of 3 different CGIs as proven by the 3 
> different images from what should have been the exact same jet.

While you are a totally delusional kook.

Did you ever figure out the explosive energy difference between a
"MRR nuke" and any other kind of nuclear explosive?


-- 
Jim Pennino

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#573472

From"Rocky" <wookiee@att.net>
Date2016-04-26 13:13 -0500
Message-ID<Q6CdnUHrIOOeLYLKnZ2dnUU7-WfNnZ2d@giganews.com>
In reply to#573212
<jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com> wrote in message 
news:pnd2vc-e3c.ln1@mail.specsol.com...
> Rocky <wookiee@att.net> wrote:
>>
>> <jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com> wrote in message
>> news:8k42vc-h7b.ln1@mail.specsol.com...
>>> Rocky <wookiee@att.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> <jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:77mquc-m4g.ln1@mail.specsol.com...
>>>>> john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> Who here thinks a jet plane
>>>>>> full of fuel can, all by itself,
>>>>>> bring down a building like
>>>>>> WTC1, and who thinks falling
>>>>>> debris and "scattered fires"
>>>>>> can bring down a building like WTC7?
>>>>>> (How did the fires start?)
>>>>>
>>>>> From the airplane crash, idiot.
>>>>
>>>> But what type of airplane does not have shadows and consisted of 3
>>>> different
>>>> images?
>>>
>>> The kind in your delusions.
>>
>> You are a complete idiot because you didn't even check to see that the 
>> bogus
>> 9/11 attack involved the use of 3 different CGIs as proven by the 3
>> different images from what should have been the exact same jet.
>
> While you are a totally delusional kook.
>
> Did you ever figure out the explosive energy difference between a
> "MRR nuke" and any other kind of nuclear explosive?

ROTFLMAO because you can't rely on the seismic readings at Ground Zero 
because they were all way too small especially when WTC7 was supposed to 
have crashed to the ground because a jackhammer could make those tiny 
surface waves too.

Oh, and your favorite that you can not explain with a "Global Collapse":
 http://www.veteranstoday.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/08/blast3.jpeg

Rocky 

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#573501

Fromjimp@specsol.spam.sux.com
Date2016-04-26 19:06 +0000
Message-ID<ppq4vc-ruj.ln1@mail.specsol.com>
In reply to#573472
Rocky <wookiee@att.net> wrote:
> 
> <jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com> wrote in message 
> news:pnd2vc-e3c.ln1@mail.specsol.com...
>> Rocky <wookiee@att.net> wrote:
>>>
>>> <jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com> wrote in message
>>> news:8k42vc-h7b.ln1@mail.specsol.com...
>>>> Rocky <wookiee@att.net> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> <jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com> wrote in message
>>>>> news:77mquc-m4g.ln1@mail.specsol.com...
>>>>>> john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> Who here thinks a jet plane
>>>>>>> full of fuel can, all by itself,
>>>>>>> bring down a building like
>>>>>>> WTC1, and who thinks falling
>>>>>>> debris and "scattered fires"
>>>>>>> can bring down a building like WTC7?
>>>>>>> (How did the fires start?)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> From the airplane crash, idiot.
>>>>>
>>>>> But what type of airplane does not have shadows and consisted of 3
>>>>> different
>>>>> images?
>>>>
>>>> The kind in your delusions.
>>>
>>> You are a complete idiot because you didn't even check to see that the 
>>> bogus
>>> 9/11 attack involved the use of 3 different CGIs as proven by the 3
>>> different images from what should have been the exact same jet.
>>
>> While you are a totally delusional kook.
>>
>> Did you ever figure out the explosive energy difference between a
>> "MRR nuke" and any other kind of nuclear explosive?
> 
> ROTFLMAO because you can't rely on the seismic readings at Ground Zero 
> because they were all way too small especially when WTC7 was supposed to 
> have crashed to the ground because a jackhammer could make those tiny 
> surface waves too.

Did you ever figure out the difference between force and energy and the
energy of a jackhammer?

-- 
Jim Pennino

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#572564

FromClutterFreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com>
Date2016-04-22 18:08 -0700
Message-ID<c54b3d78-0c2b-4542-9d16-237c4d91a413@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#572522
On Friday, April 22, 2016 at 4:45:53 PM UTC-5, john wrote:
> Who here thinks a jet plane
> full of fuel can, all by itself,
> bring down a building like
> WTC1, 

Jet plane didn't do it. Box-cutter did it :)

--
    "Beauty is the first test."

             - Godfrey Hardy

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#573187

From"Rocky" <wookiee@att.net>
Date2016-04-25 15:29 -0500
Message-ID<DrmdnX93J-rV44PKnZ2dnUU7-aHNnZ2d@giganews.com>
In reply to#572564
"ClutterFreak" <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> wrote in message 
news:c54b3d78-0c2b-4542-9d16-237c4d91a413@googlegroups.com...
> On Friday, April 22, 2016 at 4:45:53 PM UTC-5, john wrote:
>> Who here thinks a jet plane
>> full of fuel can, all by itself,
>> bring down a building like
>> WTC1,
>
> Jet plane didn't do it. Box-cutter did it :)

And yet the only alleged phone call that mentioned "box-cutters" was 0 
length and the guy even admitted he lied about it but that didn't put an end 
to the endless lies about a jet that was supposed to have done the exact 
same thing to the Twin Towers that a deep underground MRR nuke could do. 
See:
 http://www.veteranstoday.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/08/blast3.jpeg

Rocky 

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#573211

FromClutterFreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com>
Date2016-04-25 14:08 -0700
Message-ID<b2f5b2ee-3bc2-4b9b-89d2-251c2d9efde7@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#573187
On Monday, April 25, 2016 at 3:30:04 PM UTC-5, Rocky wrote:
> "ClutterFreak" wrote in message 
> news:c54b3d78-0c2b-4542-9d16-237c4d91a413@googlegroups.com...
> > On Friday, April 22, 2016 at 4:45:53 PM UTC-5, john wrote:
> >> Who here thinks a jet plane
> >> full of fuel can, all by itself,
> >> bring down a building like
> >> WTC1,
> >
> > Jet plane didn't do it. Box-cutter did it :)
> 
> And yet the only alleged phone call that mentioned "box-cutters" was 0 
> length and the guy even admitted he lied about it but that didn't put an end 
> to the endless lies about a jet that was supposed to have done the exact 
> same thing to the Twin Towers that a deep underground MRR nuke could do. 
> See:
>  http://www.veteranstoday.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/08/blast3.jpeg
> 
> Rocky

Interesting... In a townie way though :)

--
   "Hanson, I will piss on your grave. And have a
    good laugh when it seeps down on your face."
    
                              - Bert

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#573232

From"hanson" <hanson@quick.net>
Date2016-04-25 14:53 -0700
Message-ID<nfm3h9$rfd$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#573211
<clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> "ClutterFreak"
who used to yodel his "Allah Akbar" as "ExcelFreak",
"BioFreak" or <"MathFreak"@FakeAddress.com> is
Mehram Maleki, the irate, black Iranian Muslim, who
uttered: "Jews' lineage & law must be accounted as filth"
while he is the  personal slave of Faceshitter Jew Glazier, 
"reber g=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> to 
whom Mehram demonstrates his worship & his devotion 
by lying under & literally shit-eating Glazier's turd:
<http://pbs.twimg.com/media/A8MGOU-CQAEaZw4.jpg>
and then Maleki wrote:    " iss aaal goo, biatch :-)"
>
hanson wrote:
LOL , and Mehram, the Iranian Shit-Eater, **smiled**.
Mehram, all Jews will love you for your smile of approval.
Carry on you filthy pig... Allah does not want you now. 
No Huris nor any raisins for you. Pity.... but IROTFLMAO

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#572690

FromOdd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com>
Date2016-04-23 08:33 -0500
Message-ID<nfftig$pka$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#572522
On 4/22/2016 4:45 PM, john wrote:
> Who here thinks a jet plane
> full of fuel can, all by itself,
> bring down a building like
> WTC1, and who thinks falling
> debris and "scattered fires"
> can bring down a building like WTC7?
> (How did the fires start?)
>

Apparently, a whole bunch of engineers and scientists think it can.
I guess it depends on who you listen to, and who you elect to dismiss.

But once again, I'll ask you to read the original post on this thread, 
which is about the emotional drivers that are at the root of how 
lunatics operate, because reason doesn't have anything to do with it. 
You may THINK you're operating rationally, but time and time again 
you've shown that you're really not.

- You complain that science has wasted oodles of money on physics with 
no practical value, but you babble endlessly about fractal sub-light 
particles that are too small to detect, let alone exploit for practical use.
- You complain that physics has no explanations, but then you confess 
that you won't read anything that's more than a few pages in plain language.
- You are a sucker for every hoax and gee-whiz techno-scam, and you 
defend them even after the hucksters confess.
- You call your commonsense understanding "logic" but you don't even 
know the definitions of the words you're using.
- You post endlessly to a group devoted to fans of sciences, when you 
don't believe the scientific method works and you think what it's 
produced is junk. It's like thinking astrology is crap and then spending 
every evening at astrology club meetings.'
- You believe you've been visited by an alien IN A DREAM and that he 
revealed the secrets of the universe to you.

-- 
Odd Bodkin --- maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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#572702

FromHVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com>
Date2016-04-23 06:41 -0700
Message-ID<1c83ec96-a1f9-46d6-9cae-0c9ecb7281b9@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#572690
Odd Bodkin said
- You believe you've been visited by an alien IN A DREAM and that he 
revealed the secrets of the universe to you. 
----------------

Whoa, whoa, whoa!
JOHN said that?
How did I miss it?

John, I invite you to recount the story of when the alien visited you in a dream an explained the secrets of the universe to you.

I want to believe

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#572741

Frombenj <nobodyxx@gmail>
Date2016-04-23 12:58 -0400
Message-ID<571ba9aa$0$21135$c3e8da3$33881b6a@news.astraweb.com>
In reply to#572702
On 04/23/2016 09:41 AM, HVAC wrote:
> Odd Bodkin said
> - You believe you've been visited by an alien IN A DREAM and that he
> revealed the secrets of the universe to you.
> ----------------
>
> Whoa, whoa, whoa!
> JOHN said that?
> How did I miss it?
>
> John, I invite you to recount the story of when the alien visited you in a dream an explained the secrets of the universe to you.
>
> I want to believe
>
John, HVAC want to make fun of you! He sees he left a gap in his 
propaganda coverage and wants to correct his incompetence!

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#572747

FromSergio <invalid@invalid.com>
Date2016-04-23 12:33 -0500
Message-ID<nfgboj$1gne$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#572741
On 4/23/2016 11:58 AM, benj wrote:
> On 04/23/2016 09:41 AM, HVAC wrote:
>> Odd Bodkin said
>> - You believe you've been visited by an alien IN A DREAM and that he
>> revealed the secrets of the universe to you.
>> ----------------
>>
>> Whoa, whoa, whoa!
>> JOHN said that?
>> How did I miss it?
>>
>> John, I invite you to recount the story of when the alien visited you
>> in a dream an explained the secrets of the universe to you.
>>
>> I want to believe
>>
> John, HVAC want to make fun of you! He sees he left a gap in his
> propaganda coverage and wants to correct his incompetence!


was it a common midget alien ?

Did you get the free anal probing ?

any free rides in the space ship ?

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#572754

FromHVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com>
Date2016-04-23 10:56 -0700
Message-ID<b809def7-82ca-4179-8711-5b81bbf76b54@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#572747
BJ quacked
John, HVAC want to make fun of you! He sees he left a gap in his 
propaganda coverage and wants to correct his incompetence! 
--------------

BJ is in love with me

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#572826

Frombenj <nobodyxx@gmail>
Date2016-04-23 23:29 -0400
Message-ID<571c3d9d$0$28948$c3e8da3$88b277c5@news.astraweb.com>
In reply to#572754
On 04/23/2016 01:56 PM, HVAC wrote:
> BJ quacked
> John, HVAC want to make fun of you! He sees he left a gap in his
> propaganda coverage and wants to correct his incompetence!
> --------------
>
> BJ is in love with me
>
Hvac is senile. Dementia is taking over his brain. I'm sure it's filled 
with severe damage now. He lives in a total fantasy world like Herb.
He thinks he knows what everybody is thinking no matter what they say.

Pity him.


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#572834

FromSergio <invalid@invalid.com>
Date2016-04-23 22:42 -0500
Message-ID<nfhfdt$unm$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#572826
On 4/23/2016 10:29 PM, benj wrote:
> On 04/23/2016 01:56 PM, HVAC wrote:
>> BJ quacked
>> John, HVAC want to make fun of you! He sees he left a gap in his
>> propaganda coverage and wants to correct his incompetence!
>> --------------
>>
>> BJ is in love with me
>>
> Hvac is senile. Dementia is taking over his brain. I'm sure it's filled
> with severe damage now. He lives in a total fantasy world like Herb.
> He thinks he knows what everybody is thinking no matter what they say.
>
> Pity him.
>

na,

give his address to the midget aliens for free ride on the space ship 
with diagnostic anal probing treatment.  It will cure his dementia for 
sure, or make it a lot worser. Ask me how I know.

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#572847

Frombenj <nobodyxx@gmail>
Date2016-04-24 00:36 -0400
Message-ID<571c4d3c$0$31271$c3e8da3$dd9697d2@news.astraweb.com>
In reply to#572747
On 04/23/2016 01:33 PM, Sergio wrote:
> On 4/23/2016 11:58 AM, benj wrote:
>> On 04/23/2016 09:41 AM, HVAC wrote:
>>> Odd Bodkin said
>>> - You believe you've been visited by an alien IN A DREAM and that he
>>> revealed the secrets of the universe to you.
>>> ----------------
>>>
>>> Whoa, whoa, whoa!
>>> JOHN said that?
>>> How did I miss it?
>>>
>>> John, I invite you to recount the story of when the alien visited you
>>> in a dream an explained the secrets of the universe to you.
>>>
>>> I want to believe
>>>
>> John, HVAC want to make fun of you! He sees he left a gap in his
>> propaganda coverage and wants to correct his incompetence!
>
>
> was it a common midget alien ?
>
> Did you get the free anal probing ?
>
> any free rides in the space ship ?

HVAC DREAMS of an alien anal probing. It's on his "bucket list".

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#573134

From"Rocky" <wookiee@att.net>
Date2016-04-25 13:10 -0500
Message-ID<TfCdnULRAoVNwIPKnZ2dnUU7-bPNnZ2d@giganews.com>
In reply to#572690
"Odd Bodkin" <bodkinodd@gmail.com> wrote in message 
news:nfftig$pka$1@gioia.aioe.org...
> On 4/22/2016 4:45 PM, john wrote:
>> Who here thinks a jet plane
>> full of fuel can, all by itself,
>> bring down a building like
>> WTC1, and who thinks falling
>> debris and "scattered fires"
>> can bring down a building like WTC7?
>> (How did the fires start?)
>>
>
> Apparently, a whole bunch of engineers and scientists think it can.
> I guess it depends on who you listen to, and who you elect to dismiss.

ROTFLMAO because that "whole bunch of engineers and scientist" that work for 
the government have no explanation whatsoever for why so much remained 
standing at the very bottom of the Twin Towers exactly like they were nuked 
by something deep underground.
 http://www.veteranstoday.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/08/blast3.jpeg

Rocky 

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