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Light wave circularly polarized? No, it’s not.

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  Light wave circularly polarized? No, it’s not. john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-06-21 13:40 -0700
    Re: Light wave circularly polarized? No, it’s not. poraty149@gmail.com - 2018-06-21 16:33 -0700
    Re: Light wave circularly polarized? No, it’s not. moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-06-21 23:40 +0000
      Re: Light wave circularly polarized? No, it’s not. poraty149@gmail.com - 2018-06-21 16:49 -0700
        Re: Light wave circularly polarized? No, it’s not. john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-06-22 06:28 -0700
          Re: Light wave circularly polarized? No, it’s not. moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-06-22 13:45 +0000
            Re: Light wave circularly polarized? No, it’s not. poraty149@gmail.com - 2018-06-23 00:54 -0700
              Re: Light wave circularly polarized? No, it’s not. john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-06-23 07:09 -0700
                Re: Light wave circularly polarized? No, it’s not. benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-06-23 16:16 -0400
                  Re: Light wave circularly polarized? No, it’s not. john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-06-24 05:42 -0700
                Re: Light wave circularly polarized? No, it’s not. poraty149@gmail.com - 2018-06-23 16:16 -0700
                Re: Light wave circularly polarized? No, it’s not. moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-06-23 23:59 +0000
                  Re: Light wave circularly polarized? No, it’s not. john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-06-24 05:56 -0700
                    Re: Light wave circularly polarized? No, it’s not. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-06-24 13:17 +0000
                      Re: Light wave circularly polarized? No, it’s not. john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-06-24 06:29 -0700
                        Re: Light wave circularly polarized? No, it’s not. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-06-24 13:31 +0000
                      Re: Light wave circularly polarized? No, it’s not. john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-06-24 06:55 -0700
                        Re: Re: Light wave circularly polarized? No, it’s not. moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-06-24 15:22 +0000
                          Re: Re: Light wave circularly polarized? No, it’s not. john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-06-24 09:44 -0700
                            Re: Re: Light wave circularly polarized? No, it’s not. moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-06-24 17:11 +0000
                              Re: Re: Light wave circularly polarized? No, it’s not. john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-06-24 11:39 -0700
                                Re: Re: Light wave circularly polarized? No, it’s not. moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-06-24 21:46 +0000
                            Re: Light wave circularly polarized? No, it’s not. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-06-24 23:21 +0000
                              Re: Light wave circularly polarized? No, it’s not. john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-06-24 19:52 -0700
                                Re: Light wave circularly polarized? No, it’s not. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-06-25 14:07 +0000
                              Re: Light wave circularly polarized? No, it’s not. john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-06-24 19:54 -0700
                                Re: Light wave circularly polarized? No, it’s not. john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-06-24 19:58 -0700
                                  Re: Light wave circularly polarized? No, it’s not. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-06-25 14:07 +0000
                      Re: Light wave circularly polarized? No, it’s not. poraty149@gmail.com - 2018-06-24 08:49 -0700
                    Re: Light wave circularly polarized? No, it’s not. moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-06-24 15:12 +0000
    Re: Light wave circularly polarized? No, it’s not. Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-06-22 17:27 -0500
      Re: Light wave circularly polarized? No, it’s not. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-06-22 22:48 +0000
        Re: Light wave circularly polarized? No, it’s not. benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-06-22 20:44 -0400
        Re: Light wave circularly polarized? No, it’s not. moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-06-23 01:25 +0000
          Re: Light wave circularly polarized? No, it’s not. john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-06-22 22:54 -0700
      Re: Light wave circularly polarized? No, it’s not. benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-06-22 20:42 -0400
        Re: Light wave circularly polarized? No, it’s not. Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-06-23 19:56 -0500

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#691755

MM
“So give me a reference! 

>How does YOUR light model produce circular polarization, MM? 
>How do YOU say polarized lenses work? 

Go read a book on optics. Also I'm sure a Google search of "light 
polarization" will turn up plenty. I don't need to spoon feed you. ”
YOU go find the connection. I don’t have to spoon feed YOU.
You have a great opportunity here. I don’t have to do it fucking all. Or just go away

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#691761

john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> writes:

>MM
>"So give me a reference!

>>How does YOUR light model produce circular polarization, MM?
>>How do YOU say polarized lenses work?

>Go read a book on optics. Also I'm sure a Google search of "light
>polarization" will turn up plenty. I don't need to spoon feed you. "
>YOU go find the connection. I don't have to spoon feed YOU.

Two logical fallacies:

Argument from ignorance: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argument_from_ignorance
Burden of proof: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Burden_of_proof_(philosophy)

In other words, it is your claim about the crazy eight polarization
of light. It is up to you to provide evidence of it.

But, of course, I know your dumb idea actually springs from your 
precessing spinny things OCD. You really need to see a doctor about that.

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#691768

john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> wrote:
.
> 
> How does YOUR light model produce circular polarization, MM?
> How do YOU say polarized lenses work?
> 

Good heavens! This is in EVERY freshman physics book. Can you not find this
for yourself? Have you no library? Can you not Google ?

-- 
Odd Bodkin — Maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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#691785

Odd
“Good heavens! This is in EVERY freshman physics book. Can you not find this 
for yourself? Have”
What? Are you embarrassed to quickly explain?
Or does it just not fly?

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#691813

john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> wrote:
> Odd
> “Good heavens! This is in EVERY freshman physics book. Can you not find this 
> for yourself? Have”
> What? Are you embarrassed to quickly explain?
> Or does it just not fly?
> 

You remind me of firmer classmates who spent twice as much effort to
creatively cheat as would have been needed to study and actually learn it. 

I do not understand your phobia, your avoidance v

-- 
Odd Bodkin — Maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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#691786

Odd
“Good heavens! This is in EVERY freshman physics book. Can you not find this 
for yourself? Have”

Odd.
Parade your model.

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#691787

Odd
“Good heavens! This is in EVERY freshman physics book. Can you not find this 
for yourself? Have”

So, Odd. Does your photon have any shape?

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#691814

john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> wrote:
> Odd
> “Good heavens! This is in EVERY freshman physics book. Can you not find this 
> for yourself? Have”
> 
> So, Odd. Does your photon have any shape?
> 

No. Neither does a magnetic field. 

-- 
Odd Bodkin — Maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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#691740

On Sunday, June 24, 2018 at 4:17:52 PM UTC+3, Odd Bodkin wrote:
> john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> wrote:
> > MM
> > “what is the purpose of pulling crap out of your ass and posting it ”
> > http://users.accesscomm.ca/sefton/PHOTON.GIF
> > 
> > I am simply saying what I have drawn and animated.
> 
> That you have. But in physics, an explanation does not mean showing what it
> looks like and how it moves.


=======================

flat wrong and deceiving !!! 
the  physics reality is not only a F en formula smeared on a paper 

that is good only for parrots that know only a part of reality 
in reality you have to know as close as possible to REALITY !!
IN  OUR CASE
HOW THE PHOTON IS BUILT
PLUS HOW IT MOVES !!


not less than that is satisfying 

at the case of the  photon
the ''helix'' model is showing in general how it looks 
and  plus how it*** moves*** along that helix !!
 iow
much closer to reality 
===

TIA
Y. Porat
================= 





That’s just visual representation, not
> physical explanation. 
> 
> > If you understand something, you can draw it, you can explain it, and if
> > you find a good mathematician he MAY be able to find a general formula
> > that approximates it under ideal conditions. I can explain it in multiple
> > ways the same as the animation.
> > The graphic above was rotated 90 degrees to lie along the X axis for better viewing.
> > The propagation is a non-zero value taken as positive lying along the Y
> > axis which turns once around the X axis and once around the Z axis every cycle.
> > There.
> > English words. A picture.
> > Different but the same every time.
> > 
 
> -- 
> Odd Bodkin — Maker of fine toys, tools, tables

indeed mot   much more than that 

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#691737

john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> writes:

>MM
>“what is the purpose of pulling crap out of your ass and posting it ”
>http://users.accesscomm.ca/sefton/PHOTON.GIF

>I am simply saying what I have drawn and animated.
>If you understand something, you can draw it,

In other words, you pulled some shit from your ass, you "understood" your
shit and you drew the shit.  What is the purpose of doing so?

The purpose of science is to learn how nature works so we can model
nature and we can predict what nature will do in another situation.

>There.
>English words. A picture.
>Different but the same every time.

And what a wonderful little turd you have there. A nice shade of brown.


Still no answer to this?

>BTW no answer to this?

>>>>Also, explain how polarized sunglasses work.

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#691597

On 6/21/2018 3:40 PM, john wrote:
> Polarization switches from clockwise to counterclockwise and back every cycle.
> They’re actually figure-eightly polarized.
> 

a little birdie tell you this ?

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#691602

Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> wrote:
> On 6/21/2018 3:40 PM, john wrote:
>> Polarization switches from clockwise to counterclockwise and back every cycle.
>> They’re actually figure-eightly polarized.
>> 
> 
> a little birdie tell you this ?
> 

John: “Hey man, don’t harsh my creative juices, man! We’re all just tradin’
babble here. I don’t understand a damn thing you physicists say, and you
don’t understand a damn thing I say — even though it’s plain as day to me —
so we’re even steven! You got no right to say my shit stinks and yours
don’t! Plus, if what y’all say is true, then you could explain it in a
nightie-night picture book with no more than nine sentences and short
words. Otherwise you don’t understand yourself, and nobody does neither.
Nyah.”

-- 
Odd Bodkin — Maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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#691612

On 6/22/2018 6:48 PM, Odd Bodkin wrote:
> Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> wrote:
>> On 6/21/2018 3:40 PM, john wrote:
>>> Polarization switches from clockwise to counterclockwise and back every cycle.
>>> They’re actually figure-eightly polarized.
>>>
>>
>> a little birdie tell you this ?
>>
> 
> John: “Hey man, don’t harsh my creative juices, man! We’re all just tradin’
> babble here. I don’t understand a damn thing you physicists say, and you
> don’t understand a damn thing I say — even though it’s plain as day to me —
> so we’re even steven! You got no right to say my shit stinks and yours
> don’t! Plus, if what y’all say is true, then you could explain it in a
> nightie-night picture book with no more than nine sentences and short
> words. Otherwise you don’t understand yourself, and nobody does neither.
> Nyah.”
> 
Wow Boinker! Pretty good Spank, especially for you!
You ARE learning things here!

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#691620

John: "Hey man, don't harsh my creative juices, man! We're all just tradin'
babble here. I don't understand a damn thing you physicists say, and you
don't understand a damn thing I say -- even though it's plain as day to me --
so we're even steven! You got no right to say my shit stinks and yours
don't! Plus, if what y'all say is true, then you could explain it in a
nightie-night picture book with no more than nine sentences and short
words. Otherwise you don't understand yourself, and nobody does neither.
Nyah."

👍

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#691631

MM
“👍”
Hey, look, MM and Odd have a drawing of their model, finally!!

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#691610

On 6/22/2018 6:27 PM, Sergio wrote:
> On 6/21/2018 3:40 PM, john wrote:
>> Polarization switches from clockwise to counterclockwise and back every cycle.
>> They’re actually figure-eightly polarized.
>>
> 
> a little birdie tell you this ?
> 
Archiepoo told him...

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#691706

On 6/22/2018 7:42 PM, benj wrote:
> On 6/22/2018 6:27 PM, Sergio wrote:
>> On 6/21/2018 3:40 PM, john wrote:
>>> Polarization switches from clockwise to counterclockwise and back
>>> every cycle.
>>> They’re actually figure-eightly polarized.
>>>
>>
>> a little birdie tell you this ?
>>
> Archiepoo told him...

guess AP was channeling that little birdie in a Koo Koo Klock,
 via telepathy

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