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LIGO

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  LIGO furthermore7990662@gmail.com - 2018-06-12 10:28 -0700
    Re: LIGO moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-06-12 18:08 +0000
      Re: LIGO "reber G=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2018-06-12 13:26 -0700
        Re: LIGO "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> - 2018-06-12 13:31 -0700
        Re: LIGO benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-06-12 18:21 -0400
    Re: LIGO numbernumber1964@gmail.com - 2018-06-12 13:30 -0700
    Re: LIGO numbernumber1964@gmail.com - 2018-06-12 13:54 -0700
      Re: LIGO Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-06-12 22:06 +0000
      Re: LIGO "reber G=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2018-06-12 15:08 -0700
        Re: LIGO "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> - 2018-06-12 20:23 -0700
    Re: LIGO numbernumber1964@gmail.com - 2018-06-12 15:34 -0700
      Re: LIGO Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-06-13 01:17 +0000
    Re: LIGO furthermore7990662@gmail.com - 2018-06-12 16:06 -0700
    Re: LIGO numbernumber1964@gmail.com - 2018-06-12 18:21 -0700
      Re: LIGO Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-06-13 12:21 +0000
        Re: LIGO Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2018-06-13 06:15 -0700
        Re: LIGO benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-06-13 11:33 -0400
    Re: LIGO furthermore7990662@gmail.com - 2018-06-13 11:28 -0700
      Re: LIGO Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-06-13 18:40 +0000
    Re: LIGO numbernumber1964@gmail.com - 2018-06-13 12:27 -0700
    Re: LIGO furthermore7990662@gmail.com - 2018-06-14 11:00 -0700
      Re: LIGO Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2018-06-15 05:04 -0700
    Re: LIGO furthermore7990662@gmail.com - 2018-06-15 11:22 -0700
      Re: LIGO Volney <volney@volney.invalid> - 2018-06-15 14:45 -0400
    Re: LIGO furthermore7990662@gmail.com - 2018-06-15 12:56 -0700
      Re: LIGO Volney <volney@volney.invalid> - 2018-06-15 17:00 -0400
      Re: LIGO Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2018-06-17 17:01 -0700
    Re: LIGO numbernumber1964@gmail.com - 2018-06-18 14:55 -0700

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#690246 — LIGO

Fromfurthermore7990662@gmail.com
Date2018-06-12 10:28 -0700
SubjectLIGO
Message-ID<72abe286-e049-4042-934b-871dfb7f2b28@googlegroups.com>
The Caltech-MIT Laser Interferometric Gravitational-Wave Observatory (LIGO) (2009) experimentally detected celestial gravitational waves produced by a pulsar using a laser interferometer that forms a strain of 10-21 that represents the armature length contraction of 10-18 m which is less than the diameter of an electron and within the measurement uncertainty in determine the length of the armature.

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#690257

Frommoroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney)
Date2018-06-12 18:08 +0000
Message-ID<pfp26u$vh6$5@pcls7.std.com>
In reply to#690246
furthermore7990662@gmail.com writes:

>The Caltech-MIT Laser Interferometric Gravitational-Wave Observatory (LIGO)
>(2009) experimentally detected celestial gravitational waves produced by a
>pulsar using a laser interferometer that forms a strain of 10-21 that 
>represents the armature length contraction of 10-18 m which is less than 
>the diameter of an electron
[proton]

Isn't it so cool that they can actually do that?! I think so!

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#690271

From"reber G=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com>
Date2018-06-12 13:26 -0700
Message-ID<c5b08e7b-fbb3-4d5e-ba32-3d1279c09c33@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#690257
On Tuesday, June 12, 2018 at 11:08:33 AM UTC-7, Michael Moroney wrote:
> furthermore7990662@gmail.com writes:
> 
> >The Caltech-MIT Laser Interferometric Gravitational-Wave Observatory (LIGO)
> >(2009) experimentally detected celestial gravitational waves produced by a
> >pulsar using a laser interferometer that forms a strain of 10-21 that 
> >represents the armature length contraction of 10-18 m which is less than 
> >the diameter of an electron
> [proton]
> 
> Isn't it so cool that they can actually do that?! I think so!

Cool Hmmmm Con is better term.For 1.4 billion Im thinking crooks.Bert

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#690275

From"hanson" <hanson@quick.net>
Date2018-06-12 13:31 -0700
Message-ID<pfpaiv$h81$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#690271
"reber G=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> wrote:
LIGO which is short for "Lying Idiot Glazier Opines":
 Cool Hmmmm Con is better term for crook SwineBert

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#690332

Frombenj <benj@nobody.net>
Date2018-06-12 18:21 -0400
Message-ID<HHXTC.316405$yc1.214477@fx40.iad>
In reply to#690271
On 6/12/2018 4:26 PM, reber G=emc^2 wrote:
> On Tuesday, June 12, 2018 at 11:08:33 AM UTC-7, Michael Moroney wrote:
>> furthermore7990662@gmail.com writes:
>>
>>> The Caltech-MIT Laser Interferometric Gravitational-Wave Observatory (LIGO)
>>> (2009) experimentally detected celestial gravitational waves produced by a
>>> pulsar using a laser interferometer that forms a strain of 10-21 that
>>> represents the armature length contraction of 10-18 m which is less than
>>> the diameter of an electron
>> [proton]
>>
>> Isn't it so cool that they can actually do that?! I think so!
> 
> Cool Hmmmm Con is better term.For 1.4 billion Im thinking crooks.Bert
> 
Obviously a GOPer-Mafia experiment!

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#690274

Fromnumbernumber1964@gmail.com
Date2018-06-12 13:30 -0700
Message-ID<6912c5ac-37bb-4069-9f65-a8b46921ee9c@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#690246
Isn't it so cool that they can actually do that?! I think so! ..._____


________________________________________________________________



Do you swear to God that what you have stated is true to the best of your knowledge?

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#690285

Fromnumbernumber1964@gmail.com
Date2018-06-12 13:54 -0700
Message-ID<1a162410-25f0-4e81-83f0-69d085cc096b@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#690246
Isn't it so cool that they can actually do that?!.. I think so! 

_____________________________________________________________________


The measurement uncertainty of a length is approximately 10^7 m yet LIGO is detecting a length variation of 10^-18 m which is criminal fraud. The LIGO are committing fraud.

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#690323

FromOdd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com>
Date2018-06-12 22:06 +0000
Message-ID<pfpg5a$d8i$2@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#690285
<numbernumber1964@gmail.com> wrote:
> Isn't it so cool that they can actually do that?!.. I think so! 
> 
> _____________________________________________________________________
> 
> 
> The measurement uncertainty of a length is approximately 10^7 m 

What on earth gave you THAT idea? 
Chips are being BUILT with sub 10 nm features. 

> yet LIGO is detecting a length variation of 10^-18 m which is criminal
> fraud. The LIGO are committing fraud.
> 



-- 
Odd Bodkin — Maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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#690329

From"reber G=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com>
Date2018-06-12 15:08 -0700
Message-ID<f585a040-445b-43ce-a4ce-e569b95d19e2@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#690285
On Tuesday, June 12, 2018 at 1:54:29 PM UTC-7, numbernu...@gmail.com wrote:
> Isn't it so cool that they can actually do that?!.. I think so! 
> 
> _____________________________________________________________________
> 
> 
> The measurement uncertainty of a length is approximately 10^7 m yet LIGO is detecting a length variation of 10^-18 m which is criminal fraud. The LIGO are committing fraud.

When spending 1.4 billion and also claim LIGO can be so lucky to detect gravity waves over a time lapse of 1.4 billion LYs ago when two BHs hit each other and get away with it you know who is the power and glory in the world of science.Bert

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#690372

From"hanson" <hanson@quick.net>
Date2018-06-12 20:23 -0700
Message-ID<pfq30l$clq$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#690329
"reber G=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> wrote:
LIGO which is short for "Lying Idiot Glazier Opines":
 Cool. Hmmmm Con is better term for crook SwineBert
whose two "Bert's Hemorrhoids" (BHs) hit each other 
and get the power and glory in the world of science.Bert

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#690334

Fromnumbernumber1964@gmail.com
Date2018-06-12 15:34 -0700
Message-ID<e35408d2-89e7-4574-9404-400e1689dc66@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#690246
What on earth gave you THAT idea?. 
Chips are being BUILT with sub 10 nm features..

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  Sub 10 nm features is more than five orders of magnitude larger than 10^18 m.

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#690362

FromOdd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com>
Date2018-06-13 01:17 +0000
Message-ID<pfprau$s06$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#690334
<numbernumber1964@gmail.com> wrote:
> What on earth gave you THAT idea?. 
> Chips are being BUILT with sub 10 nm features..
> 
> _____________________________________________
> 
> 
>   Sub 10 nm features is more than five orders of magnitude larger than 10^18 m.
> 
> 

And that’s for BUILDING. Measurement is much better. You know about AFMs?

-- 
Odd Bodkin — Maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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#690343

Fromfurthermore7990662@gmail.com
Date2018-06-12 16:06 -0700
Message-ID<a3ec5f1a-6ce3-47ba-b515-c8de3b9dd7d3@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#690246
The Caltech-MIT Laser Interferometric Gravitational-Wave Observatory. (LIGO) 
(2009). experimentally detected celestial gravitational waves produced by a 
pulsar using a laser interferometer that forms a strain of 10^-21 that 
represents the armature length contraction of 10^-18 m which is less than 
the diameter of an electron. 
 _________________________________________


Isn't it so cool that they can actually do that?! I think so!


_______________________________________


Do you swear to God that your statement is true to the best of your knowledge? 

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#690363

Fromnumbernumber1964@gmail.com
Date2018-06-12 18:21 -0700
Message-ID<fb45c192-7062-4ac8-bba5-e960fd438302@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#690246
And that’s for BUILDING.. Measurement is much better. You know about AFMs?

___________________________________________________


It is not physically possible to measure a distance of 10^-10 m much less 10^-18 m. The expansion of the mirrors caused by the temperature is more than 10^-10.

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#690400

FromOdd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com>
Date2018-06-13 12:21 +0000
Message-ID<pfr294$qn8$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#690363
<numbernumber1964@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> And that’s for BUILDING.. Measurement is much better. You know about AFMs?
> 
> ___________________________________________________
> 
> 
> It is not physically possible to measure a distance of 10^-10 m much less
> 10^-18 m. The expansion of the mirrors caused by the temperature is more than 10^-10.
> 

Don’t you think it makes better sense to read the LIGO design report to see
how they achieved this precision, rather than just stating out of ignorance
that it’s impossible and they must be lying?

-- 
Odd Bodkin — Maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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#690405

FromEdward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com>
Date2018-06-13 06:15 -0700
Message-ID<d7fe9f0d-e39c-45f2-ae47-fdee70280d01@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#690400
On Wednesday, June 13, 2018 at 8:22:01 AM UTC-4, Odd Bodkin wrote:
> <numbernumber1964@gmail.com> wrote:
> > 
> > And that’s for BUILDING.. Measurement is much better. You know about AFMs?
> > 
> > ___________________________________________________
> > 
> > 
> > It is not physically possible to measure a distance of 10^-10 m much less
> > 10^-18 m. The expansion of the mirrors caused by the temperature is more than 10^-10.
> > 
> 
> Don’t you think it makes better sense to read the LIGO design report to see
> how they achieved this precision, rather than just stating out of ignorance
> that it’s impossible and they must be lying?
> 
> -- 
> Odd Bodkin — Maker of fine toys, tools, tables

The mirrors are both thermally and mechanically isolated.

Odd got the issue exactly right.
        The key is precision versus accuracy.

The LIGO interferometer must be very precise in order to
measure the difference in lengths on the two arms.
It does not matter the accuracy of the length measurement
for this system to work. The accuracy needs to be stable
(not changing from run to run). But the precision is what
provides the resolution for showing the CHANGE in length.

Ed

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#690420

Frombenj <benj@nobody.net>
Date2018-06-13 11:33 -0400
Message-ID<MOaUC.185801$R51.147846@fx03.iad>
In reply to#690400
On 6/13/2018 8:21 AM, Odd Bodkin wrote:
> <numbernumber1964@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> And that’s for BUILDING.. Measurement is much better. You know about AFMs?
>>
>> ___________________________________________________
>>
>>
>> It is not physically possible to measure a distance of 10^-10 m much less
>> 10^-18 m. The expansion of the mirrors caused by the temperature is more than 10^-10.
>>
> 
> Don’t you think it makes better sense to read the LIGO design report to see
> how they achieved this precision, rather than just stating out of ignorance
> that it’s impossible and they must be lying?
> 
When asserting something is "impossible" it's always easier to just use 
the "short form": "I'm a moron".

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#690444

Fromfurthermore7990662@gmail.com
Date2018-06-13 11:28 -0700
Message-ID<2827d8b9-48a4-4540-8135-71c923facaf9@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#690246
Don’t you think it makes better sense to read th.e LIGO design report to see 
how they achieved this precision, rather than just. stating out of ignorance 
that it’s impossible and they must be lying?.

________________________________________________________


Please please. tell us (in less than 30 words) 

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#690450

FromOdd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com>
Date2018-06-13 18:40 +0000
Message-ID<pfroff$5gi$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#690444
<furthermore7990662@gmail.com> wrote:
> Don’t you think it makes better sense to read th.e LIGO design report to see 
> how they achieved this precision, rather than just. stating out of ignorance 
> that it’s impossible and they must be lying?.
> 
> ________________________________________________________
> 
> 
> Please please. tell us (in less than 30 words) 
> 
> 

I think this is why you don’t research your claims. You don’t have the
fortitude for the effort. 

Much easier to say it’s all fraud. 

-- 
Odd Bodkin — Maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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#690461

Fromnumbernumber1964@gmail.com
Date2018-06-13 12:27 -0700
Message-ID<ade64c9a-b246-470c-83f0-a611a4c884fd@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#690246
I think this is why you don’t research your claims.. You don’t have the 
fortitude for the effort.. 

Much easier to say it’s all fraud.. 

_____________________________________________


Great job. Jackson

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