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Navigating the Climate Change Minefield with Michael Mann

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First post2018-05-01 05:23 -0400
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  Navigating the Climate Change Minefield with Michael Mann kensi <kkensington01@gmail.nospam.invalid> - 2018-05-01 05:23 -0400
    Re: Navigating the Climate Change Minefield with Michael Mann Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-05-01 10:44 -0500
      Re: Navigating the Climate Change Minefield with Michael Mann Dinsdale <yup@ayup.yup> - 2018-05-01 13:08 -0400
        Re: Navigating the Climate Change Minefield with Michael Mann Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-05-01 12:45 -0500
          Re: Navigating the Climate Change Minefield with Michael Mann Dinsdale <yup@ayup.yup> - 2018-05-01 13:58 -0400
            Re: Navigating the Climate Change Minefield with Michael Mann Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-05-01 14:46 -0500
              Re: Navigating the Climate Change Minefield with Michael Mann Dinsdale <yup@ayup.yup> - 2018-05-01 16:39 -0400
                Re: Navigating the Climate Change Minefield with Michael Mann % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-05-01 13:49 -0700
                  Re: Navigating the Climate Change Minefield with Michael Mann mixed nuts <melopsitticus@undulatus.budgie> - 2018-05-01 16:55 -0400
                    Re: Navigating the Climate Change Minefield with Michael Mann % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-05-01 13:59 -0700
                Re: Navigating the Climate Change Minefield with Michael Mann Skeeter <skeet@invalid.invalid> - 2018-05-01 14:55 -0600
                  Re: Navigating the Climate Change Minefield with Michael Mann Dinsdale <yup@ayup.yup> - 2018-05-01 17:01 -0400
                    Re: Navigating the Climate Change Minefield with Michael Mann Skeeter <skeet@invalid.invalid> - 2018-05-01 15:08 -0600
                      Re: Navigating the Climate Change Minefield with Michael Mann Dinsdale <yup@ayup.yup> - 2018-05-01 21:00 -0400
                        Re: Navigating the Climate Change Minefield with Michael Mann % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-05-01 18:07 -0700
                        Re: Navigating the Climate Change Minefield with Michael Mann Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-05-01 20:16 -0500
                          Re: Navigating the Climate Change Minefield with Michael Mann kensi <kkensington01@gmail.nospam.invalid> - 2018-05-02 05:16 -0400
                            Re: Navigating the Climate Change Minefield with Michael Mann Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-05-02 09:27 -0500
                              Re: Navigating the Climate Change Minefield with Michael Mann benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-05-02 14:14 -0400
                              Re: Navigating the Climate Change Minefield with Michael Mann kensi <kkensington01@gmail.nospam.invalid> - 2018-05-03 05:29 -0400
                                Re: Navigating the Climate Change Minefield with Michael Mann Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-05-03 09:43 -0500
                                  Re: Navigating the Climate Change Minefield with Michael Mann Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-05-03 11:47 -0500
                                    Re: Navigating the Climate Change Minefield with Michael Mann benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-05-03 18:25 -0400
                                      Re: Navigating the Climate Change Minefield with Michael Mann Nadegda <nad318b404@gmail.invalid> - 2018-05-03 22:59 +0000
                                        Re: Navigating the Climate Change Minefield with Michael Mann Skeeter <skeet@invalid.invalid> - 2018-05-03 17:08 -0600
                                          Re: Navigating the Climate Change Minefield with Michael Mann Nadegda <nad318b404@gmail.invalid> - 2018-05-03 23:55 +0000
                                            Re: Navigating the Climate Change Minefield with Michael Mann Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-05-03 19:33 -0500
                                              Re: Navigating the Climate Change Minefield with Michael Mann Nadegda <nad318b404@gmail.invalid> - 2018-05-04 01:42 +0000
                                                Re: Navigating the Climate Change Minefield with Michael Mann Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-05-03 21:54 -0500
                                                Re: Navigating the Climate Change Minefield with Michael Mann Checkmate <ricksabian1@gmail.com> - 2018-05-03 21:01 -0700
                                                  Re: Navigating the Climate Change Minefield with Michael Mann Nadegda <nad318b404@gmail.invalid> - 2018-05-04 04:16 +0000
                                                    Re: Navigating the Climate Change Minefield with Michael Mann Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-05-03 23:39 -0500
                                                    Re: Navigating the Climate Change Minefield with Michael Mann benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-05-04 03:10 -0400
                                                    Re: Navigating the Climate Change Minefield with Michael Mann Checkmate <ricksabian1@gmail.com> - 2018-05-04 13:35 -0700
                                                      Re: Navigating the Climate Change Minefield with Michael Mann Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-05-06 15:22 -0500
                                            Re: Navigating the Climate Change Minefield with Michael Mann Skeeter <skeet@invalid.invalid> - 2018-05-03 19:27 -0600
                                            Re: Navigating the Climate Change Minefield with Michael Mann benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-05-03 21:39 -0400
                                              Re: Navigating the Climate Change Minefield with Michael Mann Nadegda <nad318b404@gmail.invalid> - 2018-05-04 01:55 +0000
                                                Re: Navigating the Climate Change Minefield with Michael Mann Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-05-03 21:57 -0500
                                                  Re: Navigating the Climate Change Minefield with Michael Mann Nadegda <nad318b404@gmail.invalid> - 2018-05-04 04:17 +0000
                                                    Re: Navigating the Climate Change Minefield with Michael Mann Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-05-03 23:43 -0500
                                                    Re: Navigating the Climate Change Minefield with Michael Mann benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-05-04 03:12 -0400
                                                    Re: Navigating the Climate Change Minefield with Michael Mann Checkmate <ricksabian1@gmail.com> - 2018-05-04 13:36 -0700
                                                Re: Navigating the Climate Change Minefield with Michael Mann benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-05-04 03:01 -0400
                                            Re: Navigating the Climate Change Minefield with Michael Mann Checkmate <ricksabian1@gmail.com> - 2018-05-04 12:36 -0700
                                        Re: Navigating the Climate Change Minefield with Michael Mann "Sir Gregory Hall,  Esq." <greghall@yacht_maester.fake> - 2018-05-03 19:11 -0400
                                          Re: Navigating the Climate Change Minefield with Michael Mann Nadegda <nad318b404@gmail.invalid> - 2018-05-03 23:55 +0000
                                            Re: Navigating the Climate Change Minefield with Michael Mann "Sir Gregory Hall,  Esq." <greghall@yacht_maester.fake> - 2018-05-03 20:03 -0400
                                              Re: Navigating the Climate Change Minefield with Michael Mann Checkmate <ricksabian1@gmail.com> - 2018-05-03 19:18 -0700
                                                Re: Navigating the Climate Change Minefield with Michael Mann "Sir Gregory Hall,  Esq." <greghall@yacht_maester.fake> - 2018-05-03 22:22 -0400
                                                  Re: Navigating the Climate Change Minefield with Michael Mann Checkmate <ricksabian1@gmail.com> - 2018-05-03 21:12 -0700
                                                    Re: Navigating the Climate Change Minefield with Michael Mann benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-05-04 03:48 -0400
                                                  Re: Navigating the Climate Change Minefield with Michael Mann benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-05-04 03:02 -0400
                                                  Jealous much, Mr Green ? Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2018-05-05 10:15 -0700
                                            Re: Navigating the Climate Change Minefield with Michael Mann "Sir Gregory Hall,  Esq." <greghall@yacht_maester.fake> - 2018-05-03 20:11 -0400
                                              Re: Navigating the Climate Change Minefield with Michael Mann Nadegda <nad318b404@gmail.invalid> - 2018-05-04 01:44 +0000
                                                Re: Navigating the Climate Change Minefield with Michael Mann Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-05-03 21:59 -0500
                                                Re: Navigating the Climate Change Minefield with Michael Mann Checkmate <ricksabian1@gmail.com> - 2018-05-03 21:04 -0700
                                              Re: Navigating the Climate Change Minefield with Michael Mann benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-05-03 21:44 -0400
                                              Re: Navigating the Climate Change Minefield with Michael Mann Checkmate <ricksabian1@gmail.com> - 2018-05-03 19:13 -0700
                                                Re: Navigating the Climate Change Minefield with Michael Mann "Sir Gregory Hall,  Esq." <greghall@yacht_maester.fake> - 2018-05-03 22:19 -0400
                                                  Re: Navigating the Climate Change Minefield with Michael Mann Checkmate <ricksabian1@gmail.com> - 2018-05-03 21:13 -0700
                                            Re: Navigating the Climate Change Minefield with Michael Mann Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-05-03 19:34 -0500
                                            Re: Navigating the Climate Change Minefield with Michael Mann Checkmate <ricksabian1@gmail.com> - 2018-05-04 13:33 -0700
                                          Re: Navigating the Climate Change Minefield with Michael Mann Checkmate <ricksabian1@gmail.com> - 2018-05-03 19:20 -0700
                                        Re: Navigating the Climate Change Minefield with Michael Mann Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-05-03 19:30 -0500
                                          Re: Navigating the Climate Change Minefield with Michael Mann Nadegda <nad318b404@gmail.invalid> - 2018-05-04 01:46 +0000
                                            Re: Navigating the Climate Change Minefield with Michael Mann Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-05-03 22:02 -0500
                                              Re: Navigating the Climate Change Minefield with Michael Mann benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-05-04 03:05 -0400
                                        Re: Navigating the Climate Change Minefield with Michael Mann Checkmate <ricksabian1@gmail.com> - 2018-05-04 12:20 -0700
                                      Re: Navigating the Climate Change Minefield with Michael Mann Dinsdale <yup@ayup.yup> - 2018-05-03 22:10 -0400
                        Re: Navigating the Climate Change Minefield with Michael Mann Skeeter <skeet@invalid.invalid> - 2018-05-01 19:24 -0600
                          Re: Navigating the Climate Change Minefield with Michael Mann Dinsdale <yup@ayup.yup> - 2018-05-01 22:37 -0400
                            Re: Navigating the Climate Change Minefield with Michael Mann Skeeter <skeet@invalid.invalid> - 2018-05-01 21:58 -0600
                        Re: Navigating the Climate Change Minefield with Michael Mann benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-05-02 02:32 -0400
                          Re: Navigating the Climate Change Minefield with Michael Mann kensi <kkensington01@gmail.nospam.invalid> - 2018-05-02 05:19 -0400
                            Re: Navigating the Climate Change Minefield with Michael Mann Skeeter <skeet@invalid.invalid> - 2018-05-02 07:14 -0600
                            Re: Navigating the Climate Change Minefield with Michael Mann benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-05-02 09:28 -0400
                              Re: Navigating the Climate Change Minefield with Michael Mann kensi <kkensington01@gmail.nospam.invalid> - 2018-05-03 05:31 -0400
                            Re: Navigating the Climate Change Minefield with Michael Mann Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-05-02 09:33 -0500
                          Re: Navigating the Climate Change Minefield with Michael Mann Dinsdale <yup@ayup.yup> - 2018-05-02 05:34 -0400
                            Re: Navigating the Climate Change Minefield with Michael Mann kensi <kkensington01@gmail.nospam.invalid> - 2018-05-02 06:37 -0400
                              Re: Navigating the Climate Change Minefield with Michael Mann benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-05-02 09:31 -0400
                  Re: Navigating the Climate Change Minefield with Michael Mann % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-05-01 14:02 -0700
                    Re: Navigating the Climate Change Minefield with Michael Mann Skeeter <skeet@invalid.invalid> - 2018-05-01 15:09 -0600
                  Re: Navigating the Climate Change Minefield with Michael Mann kensi <kkensington01@gmail.nospam.invalid> - 2018-05-02 05:14 -0400
                Re: Navigating the Climate Change Minefield with Michael Mann Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-05-01 17:23 -0500
          Re: Navigating the Climate Change Minefield with Michael Mann benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-05-01 15:39 -0400
        Re: Navigating the Climate Change Minefield with Michael Mann benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-05-01 15:32 -0400
      Re: Navigating the Climate Change Minefield with Michael Mann benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-05-01 15:27 -0400
      Re: Navigating the Climate Change Minefield with Michael Mann James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2018-05-01 12:39 -0700

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#683285

FromDinsdale <yup@ayup.yup>
Date2018-05-02 05:34 -0400
Message-ID<pcc0ni$175s$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#683277
On 5/2/2018 2:32 AM, benj wrote:
> On 5/1/2018 9:00 PM, Dinsdale wrote:
>> On 5/1/2018 5:08 PM, Skeeter wrote:
>>> On Tue, 1 May 2018 17:01:22 -0400, Dinsdale <yup@ayup.yup> wrote:
>>>> On 5/1/2018 4:55 PM, Skeeter wrote:
>>>>> On Tue, 1 May 2018 16:39:22 -0400, Dinsdale <yup@ayup.yup> wrote:
>>>>>> On 5/1/2018 3:46 PM, Sergio wrote:
>>>>>>> On 5/1/2018 12:58 PM, Dinsdale wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 5/1/2018 1:45 PM, Sergio wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On 5/1/2018 12:08 PM, Dinsdale wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On 5/1/2018 11:44 AM, Sergio wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> On 5/1/2018 4:23 AM, kensi wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> One of the nation's most respected (and harassed) 
>>>>>>>>>>>> scientists, Dr.
>>>>>>>>>>>> Michael Mann, discusses the climate change tipping point and 
>>>>>>>>>>>> battling forces of denial:
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Mann got caught lying in emails
>>>>>>>>>> You have some of the best bullshit outrage on the internets!
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> not bullshit,   it is in the emails Mann sent out,  Ever wonder 
>>>>>>>>> why nobody has orgional data sets of global worming?  Mann says 
>>>>>>>>> they are copyright, and refuses to let others see it.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Yeah, but the Heartland Institute has absolutely no credibility.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>    who cares about them, do you work for them?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You're playing back their hogwash like a good little 
>>>>>> propagandist.  If
>>>>>> they're not paying you, please contact Charles and David Koch and ask
>>>>>> for your $25 million grant.  You can buy a lot of fried chicken and
>>>>>> pizza widdat.  Maybe even buy a faculty chair at the University of 
>>>>>> Utah
>>>>>> so you can move out yer mom's basement.
>>>>>
>>>>> Isn't the old *moms basement* thing getting just a bit old?
>>>>
>>>> No different than posting on twitter in yer underwear at 3 AM living
>>>> rent free in a gummint building.  Modern stuff.
>>>
>>> You speak from experience?
>>
>> I've never been a fascist dictator bent on destroying a government by, 
>> for, and of the people in favor of corporatism.  I don't even weigh 
>> 239 pounds, nor do I have a pendulous abdomen and a fat ass.  And I 
>> paid my mortgage, pay my taxes and don't create hundreds of blocker 
>> companies to hide my money laundering and tax avoidance operations.
>>
> Who do you think you re fooling? Libs are never for corporatism. They 
> love WORKERS even though none of them do any real work (as in build 
> things for other people). Libs HATE all large corporations and want to 
> "smash" the bourgeoisie. When libs pay taxes and mortage they always use 
> other people's money to do it, but say "I paid them". THis typically is 
> done having a so-called "job" which only involves talk and fantasy to 
> con people out of their money and nothing of value added to society. 
> Hence since libs realy have never actually earned any money doing 
> something other than lying, talking and conning people, they don't need 
> to worry about money laundering or tax avoidance. Those are problems for 
> the "marks" to deal with.

You're sort of a one-dimensional idiot, aren't you.  Antifa gonna get 
you.  Put itching powder in your undies.  They badass.  Haw haw haw!

-- 
Dinsdale

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#683286

Fromkensi <kkensington01@gmail.nospam.invalid>
Date2018-05-02 06:37 -0400
Message-ID<pcc4dr$1e1d$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#683285
On 5/2/2018 5:34 AM, Dinsdale wrote:
> On 5/2/2018 2:32 AM, benj wrote:
>> avoidance. Those are problems for the "marks" to deal with.
> 
> You're sort of a one-dimensional idiot, aren't you.  Antifa gonna get 
> you.  Put itching powder in your undies.  They badass.  Haw haw haw!

0.6309 dimensional, actually. He's not just an idiot, but toxic 
conservative ideas have turned his brain into Swiss cheese, to the point 
that he's a middle-thirds-removed-Cantor-set idiot.

*snicker*

-- 
"To explain the unknown by the known is a logical procedure; to explain
the known by the unknown is a form of theological lunacy." ~David Brooks
"I get fooled all the time by the constant hosiery parade
in here."                                                     ~Checkmate

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#683303

Frombenj <benj@nobody.net>
Date2018-05-02 09:31 -0400
Message-ID<d5jGC.51861$LR2.1974@fx41.iad>
In reply to#683286
On 5/2/2018 6:37 AM, kensi wrote:
> On 5/2/2018 5:34 AM, Dinsdale wrote:
>> On 5/2/2018 2:32 AM, benj wrote:
>>> avoidance. Those are problems for the "marks" to deal with.
>>
>> You're sort of a one-dimensional idiot, aren't you.  Antifa gonna get 
>> you.  Put itching powder in your undies.  They badass.  Haw haw haw!
> 
> 0.6309 dimensional, actually. He's not just an idiot, but toxic 
> conservative ideas have turned his brain into Swiss cheese, to the point 
> that he's a middle-thirds-removed-Cantor-set idiot.
> 
> *snicker*
> 
Kill any more babies lately, "Kanzi"? I'm sure you can come up with some 
global worming "policy" to do that.

Death threats noted and reported. Aren't you commies suppose to ask if 
I'm republican or democrat before you haul out the AK47 and start 
shooting? Clearly you violent morons need to be locked up and your guns 
taken away. (especially if POC)

Chortle (rule #5)

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#683212

From% <persent@gmail.com>
Date2018-05-01 14:02 -0700
Message-ID<b87a5k.608.19.3@news.alt.net>
In reply to#683207
On 2018-05-01 1:55 PM, Skeeter wrote:
> On Tue, 1 May 2018 16:39:22 -0400, Dinsdale <yup@ayup.yup> wrote:
> 
>> On 5/1/2018 3:46 PM, Sergio wrote:
>>> On 5/1/2018 12:58 PM, Dinsdale wrote:
>>>> On 5/1/2018 1:45 PM, Sergio wrote:
>>>>> On 5/1/2018 12:08 PM, Dinsdale wrote:
>>>>>> On 5/1/2018 11:44 AM, Sergio wrote:
>>>>>>> On 5/1/2018 4:23 AM, kensi wrote:
>>>>>>>> One of the nation's most respected (and harassed) scientists, Dr.
>>>>>>>> Michael Mann, discusses the climate change tipping point and battling
>>>>>>>> forces of denial:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Mann got caught lying in emails
>>>>>> You have some of the best bullshit outrage on the internets!
>>>>>>
>>>>> not bullshit,   it is in the emails Mann sent out,  Ever wonder why
>>>>> nobody has orgional data sets of global worming?  Mann says they are
>>>>> copyright, and refuses to let others see it.
>>>>
>>>> Yeah, but the Heartland Institute has absolutely no credibility.
>>>>
>>>       who cares about them, do you work for them?
>>
>> You're playing back their hogwash like a good little propagandist.  If
>> they're not paying you, please contact Charles and David Koch and ask
>> for your $25 million grant.  You can buy a lot of fried chicken and
>> pizza widdat.  Maybe even buy a faculty chair at the University of Utah
>> so you can move out yer mom's basement.
> 
> 
> Isn't the old *moms basement* thing getting just a bit old?
> 
asswurm is older , i win , but that's what happens when you get old ,
the other day greg said haggert died a few weeks ago ,
it was 2 years ago , old guys have no sense of time

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#683214

FromSkeeter <skeet@invalid.invalid>
Date2018-05-01 15:09 -0600
Message-ID<brlhed16s3e7j2ldstvalcjtqsh4112gkj@4ax.com>
In reply to#683212
On Tue, 1 May 2018 14:02:13 -0700, % <persent@gmail.com> wrote:

>On 2018-05-01 1:55 PM, Skeeter wrote:
>> On Tue, 1 May 2018 16:39:22 -0400, Dinsdale <yup@ayup.yup> wrote:
>> 
>>> On 5/1/2018 3:46 PM, Sergio wrote:
>>>> On 5/1/2018 12:58 PM, Dinsdale wrote:
>>>>> On 5/1/2018 1:45 PM, Sergio wrote:
>>>>>> On 5/1/2018 12:08 PM, Dinsdale wrote:
>>>>>>> On 5/1/2018 11:44 AM, Sergio wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 5/1/2018 4:23 AM, kensi wrote:
>>>>>>>>> One of the nation's most respected (and harassed) scientists, Dr.
>>>>>>>>> Michael Mann, discusses the climate change tipping point and battling
>>>>>>>>> forces of denial:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Mann got caught lying in emails
>>>>>>> You have some of the best bullshit outrage on the internets!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> not bullshit,   it is in the emails Mann sent out,  Ever wonder why
>>>>>> nobody has orgional data sets of global worming?  Mann says they are
>>>>>> copyright, and refuses to let others see it.
>>>>>
>>>>> Yeah, but the Heartland Institute has absolutely no credibility.
>>>>>
>>>>       who cares about them, do you work for them?
>>>
>>> You're playing back their hogwash like a good little propagandist.  If
>>> they're not paying you, please contact Charles and David Koch and ask
>>> for your $25 million grant.  You can buy a lot of fried chicken and
>>> pizza widdat.  Maybe even buy a faculty chair at the University of Utah
>>> so you can move out yer mom's basement.
>> 
>> 
>> Isn't the old *moms basement* thing getting just a bit old?
>> 
>asswurm is older , i win , but that's what happens when you get old ,
>the other day greg said haggert died a few weeks ago ,
>it was 2 years ago , old guys have no sense of time


huh? <looks at watch>

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#683280

Fromkensi <kkensington01@gmail.nospam.invalid>
Date2018-05-02 05:14 -0400
Message-ID<pcbvhl$14h9$2@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#683207
On 5/1/2018 4:55 PM, Skeeter wrote:
> On Tue, 1 May 2018 16:39:22 -0400, Dinsdale <yup@ayup.yup> wrote:
>> so you can move out yer mom's basement.
> 
> Isn't the old *moms basement* thing getting just a bit old?

... says the k0Ok who lives in a trailer park, only one step above that.

-- 
"To explain the unknown by the known is a logical procedure; to explain
the known by the unknown is a form of theological lunacy." ~David Brooks
"I get fooled all the time by the constant hosiery parade
in here."                                                     ~Checkmate

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#683225

FromSergio <invalid@invalid.com>
Date2018-05-01 17:23 -0500
Message-ID<pcapd2$1gpj$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#683201
On 5/1/2018 3:39 PM, Dinsdale wrote:
> On 5/1/2018 3:46 PM, Sergio wrote:
>> On 5/1/2018 12:58 PM, Dinsdale wrote:
>>> On 5/1/2018 1:45 PM, Sergio wrote:
>>>> On 5/1/2018 12:08 PM, Dinsdale wrote:
>>>>> On 5/1/2018 11:44 AM, Sergio wrote:
>>>>>> On 5/1/2018 4:23 AM, kensi wrote:
>>>>>>> One of the nation's most respected (and harassed) scientists, Dr.
>>>>>>> Michael Mann, discusses the climate change tipping point and
>>>>>>> battling
>>>>>>> forces of denial:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> Mann got caught lying in emails
>>>>> You have some of the best bullshit outrage on the internets!
>>>>>
>>>> not bullshit,   it is in the emails Mann sent out,  Ever wonder why
>>>> nobody has orgional data sets of global worming?  Mann says they are
>>>> copyright, and refuses to let others see it.
>>>
>>> Yeah, but the Heartland Institute has absolutely no credibility.
>>>
>>      who cares about them, do you work for them?
> 
> You're playing back their hogwash like a good little propagandist.  If
> they're not paying you, please contact Charles and David Koch and ask
> for your $25 million grant.  You can buy a lot of fried chicken and
> pizza widdat.  Maybe even buy a faculty chair at the University of Utah
> so you can move out yer mom's basement.
> 

I will gladly take 25 million, and faculty chair, but we would have to
dig a basement at mom's house, I'm o.k. with that,  to live there for
1,000,000 a year, I'll have that place decked out for sure. and I would
invest the rest of the money in Stocks and Bonds, but first setup a
Foundation like Zuckerberg did, to park all that money in, so I cannot
get sued for anything.

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#683183

Frombenj <benj@nobody.net>
Date2018-05-01 15:39 -0400
Message-ID<1o3GC.82819$RM2.685@fx05.iad>
In reply to#683160
On 5/1/2018 1:45 PM, Sergio wrote:
> On 5/1/2018 12:08 PM, Dinsdale wrote:
>> On 5/1/2018 11:44 AM, Sergio wrote:
>>> On 5/1/2018 4:23 AM, kensi wrote:
>>>> One of the nation's most respected (and harassed) scientists, Dr.
>>>> Michael Mann, discusses the climate change tipping point and battling
>>>> forces of denial:
>>>>
>>> Mann got caught lying in emails
>>
>> You have some of the best bullshit outrage on the internets!
>>
> 
> not bullshit,   it is in the emails Mann sent out,  Ever wonder why
> nobody has orgional data sets of global worming?  Mann says they are
> copyright, and refuses to let others see it.
> 
> https://www.forbes.com/sites/jamestaylor/2011/11/23/climategate-2-0-new-e-mails-rock-the-global-warming-debate/#a3b6b5427ba6
> 
> Regarding scientific transparency, a defining characteristic of science
> is the open sharing of scientific data, theories and procedures so that
> independent parties, and especially skeptics of a particular theory or
> hypothesis, can replicate and validate asserted experiments or
> observations. Emails between Climategate scientists, however, show a
> concerted effort to hide rather than disseminate underlying evidence and
> procedures.
> 
> “I’ve been told that IPCC is above national FOI [Freedom of Information]
> Acts. One way to cover yourself and all those working in AR5 would be to
> delete all emails at the end of the process,”writes Phil Jones, a
> scientist working with the United Nations Intergovernmental Panel on
> Climate Change (IPCC), in a newly released email to Mann.
> 
> “Any work we have done in the past is done on the back of the research
> grants we get – and has to be well hidden,” Jones writes in another
> newly released email. “I’ve discussed this with the main funder (U.S.
> Dept of Energy) in the past and they are happy about not releasing the
> original station data.”
> 
> The original Climategate emails contained similar evidence of destroying
> information and data that the public would naturally assume would be
> available according to freedom of information principles. “Mike, can you
> delete any emails you may have had with Keith [Briffa] re AR4 [UN
> Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change 4th Assessment]?” Jones wrote
> to Penn State University scientist Michael Mann in an email released in
> Climategate 1.0. “Keith will do likewise. ... We will be getting Caspar
> [Ammann] to do likewise. I see that CA [the Climate Audit Web site]
> claim they discovered the 1945 problem in the Nature paper!!”
> 
> The new emails also reveal the scientists’ attempts to politicize the
> debate and advance predetermined outcomes, coordinated by Mann.
> 
> “The trick may be to decide on the main message and use that to guid[e]
> what’s included and what is left out” of IPCC reports, writes Jonathan
> Overpeck, coordinating lead author for the IPCC’s most recent climate
> assessment.
> 
> “I gave up on [Georgia Institute of Technology climate professor] Judith
> Curry a while ago. I don’t know what she thinks she’s doing, but its not
> helping the cause,” wrote Mann in another newly released email.
> 
I presume this means she was actually reporting true facts. Shameful. 
"Kanzi" says you get better "climate change" data from weather stations 
positioned near air conditioner condensers.

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#683179

Frombenj <benj@nobody.net>
Date2018-05-01 15:32 -0400
Message-ID<eh3GC.68839$yc1.51363@fx40.iad>
In reply to#683149
On 5/1/2018 1:08 PM, Dinsdale wrote:
> On 5/1/2018 11:44 AM, Sergio wrote:
>> On 5/1/2018 4:23 AM, kensi wrote:
>>> One of the nation's most respected (and harassed) scientists, Dr.
>>> Michael Mann, discusses the climate change tipping point and battling
>>> forces of denial:
>>>
>> Mann got caught lying in emails
> 
> You have some of the best bullshit outrage on the internets!
> 
Dinsdale, is that supposed to you your attempt "debunking" the truth?
An education would really help here.

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#683174

Frombenj <benj@nobody.net>
Date2018-05-01 15:27 -0400
Message-ID<Qc3GC.42695$wG5.2706@fx02.iad>
In reply to#683141
On 5/1/2018 11:44 AM, Sergio wrote:
> On 5/1/2018 4:23 AM, kensi wrote:
>> One of the nation's most respected (and harassed) scientists, Dr.
>> Michael Mann, discusses the climate change tipping point and battling
>> forces of denial:
>>
> Mann got caught lying in emails
> 
> https://climateaudit.org/2014/05/09/mann-misrepresents-the-epa-part-1/
> 
> http://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2014/05/michael-mann-is-a-liar-and-a-cheat-heres-why.php
> 
> https://www.newscientist.com/article/dn11646-climate-myths-the-hockey-stick-graph-has-been-proven-wrong/
> https://www.forbes.com/sites/jamestaylor/2011/11/23/climategate-2-0-new-e-mails-rock-the-global-warming-debate/#454f3cd227ba
> 
> 
> "A new batch of 5,000 emails among scientists central to the assertion
> that humans are causing a global warming crisis were anonymously
> released to the public yesterday, igniting a new firestorm of
> controversy nearly two years to the day after similar emails ignited the
> Climategate scandal.
> 
> Three themes are emerging from the newly released emails: (1) prominent
> scientists central to the global warming debate are taking measures to
> conceal rather than disseminate underlying data and discussions; (2)
> these scientists view global warming as a political “cause” rather than
> a balanced scientific inquiry and (3) many of these scientists frankly
> admit to each other that much of the science is weak and dependent on
> deliberate manipulation of facts and data."
> 
For Kanzi, Mann being caught red-handed with fraud and lies is like him 
winning the Nobel prize to her. Lies and fraud are what she terms 
"science".

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#683182

FromJames McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com>
Date2018-05-01 12:39 -0700
Message-ID<113b2500-c3a8-410f-9dd5-c9c305db1740@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#683141
On Tuesday, May 1, 2018 at 8:44:25 AM UTC-7, Sergio wrote:
> On 5/1/2018 4:23 AM, kensi wrote:
> > One of the nation's most respected (and harassed) scientists, Dr.
> > Michael Mann, discusses the climate change tipping point and battling
> > forces of denial:
> > 
> Mann got caught lying in emails
> 
> https://climateaudit.org/2014/05/09/mann-misrepresents-the-epa-part-1/
> 
> http://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2014/05/michael-mann-is-a-liar-and-a-cheat-heres-why.php
> 
> https://www.newscientist.com/article/dn11646-climate-myths-the-hockey-stick-graph-has-been-proven-wrong/
> https://www.forbes.com/sites/jamestaylor/2011/11/23/climategate-2-0-new-e-mails-rock-the-global-warming-debate/#454f3cd227ba
> 
> 
> "A new batch of 5,000 emails among scientists central to the assertion
> that humans are causing a global warming crisis were anonymously
> released to the public yesterday, igniting a new firestorm of
> controversy nearly two years to the day after similar emails ignited the
> Climategate scandal.
> 
> Three themes are emerging from the newly released emails: (1) prominent
> scientists central to the global warming debate are taking measures to
> conceal rather than disseminate underlying data and discussions; (2)
> these scientists view global warming as a political “cause” rather than
> a balanced scientific inquiry and (3) many of these scientists frankly
> admit to each other that much of the science is weak and dependent on
> deliberate manipulation of facts and data."

So, Sergio.  Good luck getting any of these AGW frauds to address your argument.

Take a big spoonful of your own medicine.

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