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Navigating the Climate Change Minefield with Michael Mann kensi <kkensington01@gmail.nospam.invalid> - 2018-05-01 05:23 -0400
Re: Navigating the Climate Change Minefield with Michael Mann Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-05-01 10:44 -0500
Re: Navigating the Climate Change Minefield with Michael Mann Dinsdale <yup@ayup.yup> - 2018-05-01 13:08 -0400
Re: Navigating the Climate Change Minefield with Michael Mann Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-05-01 12:45 -0500
Re: Navigating the Climate Change Minefield with Michael Mann Dinsdale <yup@ayup.yup> - 2018-05-01 13:58 -0400
Re: Navigating the Climate Change Minefield with Michael Mann Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-05-01 14:46 -0500
Re: Navigating the Climate Change Minefield with Michael Mann Dinsdale <yup@ayup.yup> - 2018-05-01 16:39 -0400
Re: Navigating the Climate Change Minefield with Michael Mann % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-05-01 13:49 -0700
Re: Navigating the Climate Change Minefield with Michael Mann mixed nuts <melopsitticus@undulatus.budgie> - 2018-05-01 16:55 -0400
Re: Navigating the Climate Change Minefield with Michael Mann % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-05-01 13:59 -0700
Re: Navigating the Climate Change Minefield with Michael Mann Skeeter <skeet@invalid.invalid> - 2018-05-01 14:55 -0600
Re: Navigating the Climate Change Minefield with Michael Mann Dinsdale <yup@ayup.yup> - 2018-05-01 17:01 -0400
Re: Navigating the Climate Change Minefield with Michael Mann Skeeter <skeet@invalid.invalid> - 2018-05-01 15:08 -0600
Re: Navigating the Climate Change Minefield with Michael Mann Dinsdale <yup@ayup.yup> - 2018-05-01 21:00 -0400
Re: Navigating the Climate Change Minefield with Michael Mann % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-05-01 18:07 -0700
Re: Navigating the Climate Change Minefield with Michael Mann Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-05-01 20:16 -0500
Re: Navigating the Climate Change Minefield with Michael Mann kensi <kkensington01@gmail.nospam.invalid> - 2018-05-02 05:16 -0400
Re: Navigating the Climate Change Minefield with Michael Mann Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-05-02 09:27 -0500
Re: Navigating the Climate Change Minefield with Michael Mann benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-05-02 14:14 -0400
Re: Navigating the Climate Change Minefield with Michael Mann kensi <kkensington01@gmail.nospam.invalid> - 2018-05-03 05:29 -0400
Re: Navigating the Climate Change Minefield with Michael Mann Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-05-03 09:43 -0500
Re: Navigating the Climate Change Minefield with Michael Mann Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-05-03 11:47 -0500
Re: Navigating the Climate Change Minefield with Michael Mann benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-05-03 18:25 -0400
Re: Navigating the Climate Change Minefield with Michael Mann Nadegda <nad318b404@gmail.invalid> - 2018-05-03 22:59 +0000
Re: Navigating the Climate Change Minefield with Michael Mann Skeeter <skeet@invalid.invalid> - 2018-05-03 17:08 -0600
Re: Navigating the Climate Change Minefield with Michael Mann Nadegda <nad318b404@gmail.invalid> - 2018-05-03 23:55 +0000
Re: Navigating the Climate Change Minefield with Michael Mann Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-05-03 19:33 -0500
Re: Navigating the Climate Change Minefield with Michael Mann Nadegda <nad318b404@gmail.invalid> - 2018-05-04 01:42 +0000
Re: Navigating the Climate Change Minefield with Michael Mann Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-05-03 21:54 -0500
Re: Navigating the Climate Change Minefield with Michael Mann Checkmate <ricksabian1@gmail.com> - 2018-05-03 21:01 -0700
Re: Navigating the Climate Change Minefield with Michael Mann Nadegda <nad318b404@gmail.invalid> - 2018-05-04 04:16 +0000
Re: Navigating the Climate Change Minefield with Michael Mann Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-05-03 23:39 -0500
Re: Navigating the Climate Change Minefield with Michael Mann benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-05-04 03:10 -0400
Re: Navigating the Climate Change Minefield with Michael Mann Checkmate <ricksabian1@gmail.com> - 2018-05-04 13:35 -0700
Re: Navigating the Climate Change Minefield with Michael Mann Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-05-06 15:22 -0500
Re: Navigating the Climate Change Minefield with Michael Mann Skeeter <skeet@invalid.invalid> - 2018-05-03 19:27 -0600
Re: Navigating the Climate Change Minefield with Michael Mann benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-05-03 21:39 -0400
Re: Navigating the Climate Change Minefield with Michael Mann Nadegda <nad318b404@gmail.invalid> - 2018-05-04 01:55 +0000
Re: Navigating the Climate Change Minefield with Michael Mann Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-05-03 21:57 -0500
Re: Navigating the Climate Change Minefield with Michael Mann Nadegda <nad318b404@gmail.invalid> - 2018-05-04 04:17 +0000
Re: Navigating the Climate Change Minefield with Michael Mann Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-05-03 23:43 -0500
Re: Navigating the Climate Change Minefield with Michael Mann benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-05-04 03:12 -0400
Re: Navigating the Climate Change Minefield with Michael Mann Checkmate <ricksabian1@gmail.com> - 2018-05-04 13:36 -0700
Re: Navigating the Climate Change Minefield with Michael Mann benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-05-04 03:01 -0400
Re: Navigating the Climate Change Minefield with Michael Mann Checkmate <ricksabian1@gmail.com> - 2018-05-04 12:36 -0700
Re: Navigating the Climate Change Minefield with Michael Mann "Sir Gregory Hall, Esq." <greghall@yacht_maester.fake> - 2018-05-03 19:11 -0400
Re: Navigating the Climate Change Minefield with Michael Mann Nadegda <nad318b404@gmail.invalid> - 2018-05-03 23:55 +0000
Re: Navigating the Climate Change Minefield with Michael Mann "Sir Gregory Hall, Esq." <greghall@yacht_maester.fake> - 2018-05-03 20:03 -0400
Re: Navigating the Climate Change Minefield with Michael Mann Checkmate <ricksabian1@gmail.com> - 2018-05-03 19:18 -0700
Re: Navigating the Climate Change Minefield with Michael Mann "Sir Gregory Hall, Esq." <greghall@yacht_maester.fake> - 2018-05-03 22:22 -0400
Re: Navigating the Climate Change Minefield with Michael Mann Checkmate <ricksabian1@gmail.com> - 2018-05-03 21:12 -0700
Re: Navigating the Climate Change Minefield with Michael Mann benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-05-04 03:48 -0400
Re: Navigating the Climate Change Minefield with Michael Mann benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-05-04 03:02 -0400
Jealous much, Mr Green ? Jeff-Relf.Me @. - 2018-05-05 10:15 -0700
Re: Navigating the Climate Change Minefield with Michael Mann "Sir Gregory Hall, Esq." <greghall@yacht_maester.fake> - 2018-05-03 20:11 -0400
Re: Navigating the Climate Change Minefield with Michael Mann Nadegda <nad318b404@gmail.invalid> - 2018-05-04 01:44 +0000
Re: Navigating the Climate Change Minefield with Michael Mann Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-05-03 21:59 -0500
Re: Navigating the Climate Change Minefield with Michael Mann Checkmate <ricksabian1@gmail.com> - 2018-05-03 21:04 -0700
Re: Navigating the Climate Change Minefield with Michael Mann benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-05-03 21:44 -0400
Re: Navigating the Climate Change Minefield with Michael Mann Checkmate <ricksabian1@gmail.com> - 2018-05-03 19:13 -0700
Re: Navigating the Climate Change Minefield with Michael Mann "Sir Gregory Hall, Esq." <greghall@yacht_maester.fake> - 2018-05-03 22:19 -0400
Re: Navigating the Climate Change Minefield with Michael Mann Checkmate <ricksabian1@gmail.com> - 2018-05-03 21:13 -0700
Re: Navigating the Climate Change Minefield with Michael Mann Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-05-03 19:34 -0500
Re: Navigating the Climate Change Minefield with Michael Mann Checkmate <ricksabian1@gmail.com> - 2018-05-04 13:33 -0700
Re: Navigating the Climate Change Minefield with Michael Mann Checkmate <ricksabian1@gmail.com> - 2018-05-03 19:20 -0700
Re: Navigating the Climate Change Minefield with Michael Mann Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-05-03 19:30 -0500
Re: Navigating the Climate Change Minefield with Michael Mann Nadegda <nad318b404@gmail.invalid> - 2018-05-04 01:46 +0000
Re: Navigating the Climate Change Minefield with Michael Mann Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-05-03 22:02 -0500
Re: Navigating the Climate Change Minefield with Michael Mann benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-05-04 03:05 -0400
Re: Navigating the Climate Change Minefield with Michael Mann Checkmate <ricksabian1@gmail.com> - 2018-05-04 12:20 -0700
Re: Navigating the Climate Change Minefield with Michael Mann Dinsdale <yup@ayup.yup> - 2018-05-03 22:10 -0400
Re: Navigating the Climate Change Minefield with Michael Mann Skeeter <skeet@invalid.invalid> - 2018-05-01 19:24 -0600
Re: Navigating the Climate Change Minefield with Michael Mann Dinsdale <yup@ayup.yup> - 2018-05-01 22:37 -0400
Re: Navigating the Climate Change Minefield with Michael Mann Skeeter <skeet@invalid.invalid> - 2018-05-01 21:58 -0600
Re: Navigating the Climate Change Minefield with Michael Mann benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-05-02 02:32 -0400
Re: Navigating the Climate Change Minefield with Michael Mann kensi <kkensington01@gmail.nospam.invalid> - 2018-05-02 05:19 -0400
Re: Navigating the Climate Change Minefield with Michael Mann Skeeter <skeet@invalid.invalid> - 2018-05-02 07:14 -0600
Re: Navigating the Climate Change Minefield with Michael Mann benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-05-02 09:28 -0400
Re: Navigating the Climate Change Minefield with Michael Mann kensi <kkensington01@gmail.nospam.invalid> - 2018-05-03 05:31 -0400
Re: Navigating the Climate Change Minefield with Michael Mann Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-05-02 09:33 -0500
Re: Navigating the Climate Change Minefield with Michael Mann Dinsdale <yup@ayup.yup> - 2018-05-02 05:34 -0400
Re: Navigating the Climate Change Minefield with Michael Mann kensi <kkensington01@gmail.nospam.invalid> - 2018-05-02 06:37 -0400
Re: Navigating the Climate Change Minefield with Michael Mann benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-05-02 09:31 -0400
Re: Navigating the Climate Change Minefield with Michael Mann % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-05-01 14:02 -0700
Re: Navigating the Climate Change Minefield with Michael Mann Skeeter <skeet@invalid.invalid> - 2018-05-01 15:09 -0600
Re: Navigating the Climate Change Minefield with Michael Mann kensi <kkensington01@gmail.nospam.invalid> - 2018-05-02 05:14 -0400
Re: Navigating the Climate Change Minefield with Michael Mann Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-05-01 17:23 -0500
Re: Navigating the Climate Change Minefield with Michael Mann benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-05-01 15:39 -0400
Re: Navigating the Climate Change Minefield with Michael Mann benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-05-01 15:32 -0400
Re: Navigating the Climate Change Minefield with Michael Mann benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-05-01 15:27 -0400
Re: Navigating the Climate Change Minefield with Michael Mann James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2018-05-01 12:39 -0700
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| From | kensi <kkensington01@gmail.nospam.invalid> |
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| Date | 2018-05-01 05:23 -0400 |
| Subject | Navigating the Climate Change Minefield with Michael Mann |
| Message-ID | <pc9bn6$12ke$1@gioia.aioe.org> |
One of the nation's most respected (and harassed) scientists, Dr. Michael Mann, discusses the climate change tipping point and battling forces of denial: https://www.ucsusa.org/got-science-podcast/navigating-climate-change-minefield-michael-mann -- "To explain the unknown by the known is a logical procedure; to explain the known by the unknown is a form of theological lunacy." ~David Brooks "I get fooled all the time by the constant hosiery parade in here." ~Checkmate
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| From | Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> |
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| Date | 2018-05-01 10:44 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <pca20j$826$1@gioia.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #683109 |
On 5/1/2018 4:23 AM, kensi wrote: > One of the nation's most respected (and harassed) scientists, Dr. > Michael Mann, discusses the climate change tipping point and battling > forces of denial: > Mann got caught lying in emails https://climateaudit.org/2014/05/09/mann-misrepresents-the-epa-part-1/ http://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2014/05/michael-mann-is-a-liar-and-a-cheat-heres-why.php https://www.newscientist.com/article/dn11646-climate-myths-the-hockey-stick-graph-has-been-proven-wrong/ https://www.forbes.com/sites/jamestaylor/2011/11/23/climategate-2-0-new-e-mails-rock-the-global-warming-debate/#454f3cd227ba "A new batch of 5,000 emails among scientists central to the assertion that humans are causing a global warming crisis were anonymously released to the public yesterday, igniting a new firestorm of controversy nearly two years to the day after similar emails ignited the Climategate scandal. Three themes are emerging from the newly released emails: (1) prominent scientists central to the global warming debate are taking measures to conceal rather than disseminate underlying data and discussions; (2) these scientists view global warming as a political “cause” rather than a balanced scientific inquiry and (3) many of these scientists frankly admit to each other that much of the science is weak and dependent on deliberate manipulation of facts and data."
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| From | Dinsdale <yup@ayup.yup> |
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| Date | 2018-05-01 13:08 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <pca6uq$gvh$1@gioia.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #683141 |
On 5/1/2018 11:44 AM, Sergio wrote: > On 5/1/2018 4:23 AM, kensi wrote: >> One of the nation's most respected (and harassed) scientists, Dr. >> Michael Mann, discusses the climate change tipping point and battling >> forces of denial: >> > Mann got caught lying in emails You have some of the best bullshit outrage on the internets! -- Dinsdale
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| From | Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> |
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| Date | 2018-05-01 12:45 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <pca941$kr0$1@gioia.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #683149 |
On 5/1/2018 12:08 PM, Dinsdale wrote: > On 5/1/2018 11:44 AM, Sergio wrote: >> On 5/1/2018 4:23 AM, kensi wrote: >>> One of the nation's most respected (and harassed) scientists, Dr. >>> Michael Mann, discusses the climate change tipping point and battling >>> forces of denial: >>> >> Mann got caught lying in emails > > You have some of the best bullshit outrage on the internets! > not bullshit, it is in the emails Mann sent out, Ever wonder why nobody has orgional data sets of global worming? Mann says they are copyright, and refuses to let others see it. https://www.forbes.com/sites/jamestaylor/2011/11/23/climategate-2-0-new-e-mails-rock-the-global-warming-debate/#a3b6b5427ba6 Regarding scientific transparency, a defining characteristic of science is the open sharing of scientific data, theories and procedures so that independent parties, and especially skeptics of a particular theory or hypothesis, can replicate and validate asserted experiments or observations. Emails between Climategate scientists, however, show a concerted effort to hide rather than disseminate underlying evidence and procedures. “I’ve been told that IPCC is above national FOI [Freedom of Information] Acts. One way to cover yourself and all those working in AR5 would be to delete all emails at the end of the process,”writes Phil Jones, a scientist working with the United Nations Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC), in a newly released email to Mann. “Any work we have done in the past is done on the back of the research grants we get – and has to be well hidden,” Jones writes in another newly released email. “I’ve discussed this with the main funder (U.S. Dept of Energy) in the past and they are happy about not releasing the original station data.” The original Climategate emails contained similar evidence of destroying information and data that the public would naturally assume would be available according to freedom of information principles. “Mike, can you delete any emails you may have had with Keith [Briffa] re AR4 [UN Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change 4th Assessment]?” Jones wrote to Penn State University scientist Michael Mann in an email released in Climategate 1.0. “Keith will do likewise. ... We will be getting Caspar [Ammann] to do likewise. I see that CA [the Climate Audit Web site] claim they discovered the 1945 problem in the Nature paper!!” The new emails also reveal the scientists’ attempts to politicize the debate and advance predetermined outcomes, coordinated by Mann. “The trick may be to decide on the main message and use that to guid[e] what’s included and what is left out” of IPCC reports, writes Jonathan Overpeck, coordinating lead author for the IPCC’s most recent climate assessment. “I gave up on [Georgia Institute of Technology climate professor] Judith Curry a while ago. I don’t know what she thinks she’s doing, but its not helping the cause,” wrote Mann in another newly released email.
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| From | Dinsdale <yup@ayup.yup> |
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| Date | 2018-05-01 13:58 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <pca9r7$m1q$1@gioia.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #683160 |
On 5/1/2018 1:45 PM, Sergio wrote: > On 5/1/2018 12:08 PM, Dinsdale wrote: >> On 5/1/2018 11:44 AM, Sergio wrote: >>> On 5/1/2018 4:23 AM, kensi wrote: >>>> One of the nation's most respected (and harassed) scientists, Dr. >>>> Michael Mann, discusses the climate change tipping point and battling >>>> forces of denial: >>>> >>> Mann got caught lying in emails >> You have some of the best bullshit outrage on the internets! >> > not bullshit, it is in the emails Mann sent out, Ever wonder why > nobody has orgional data sets of global worming? Mann says they are > copyright, and refuses to let others see it. Yeah, but the Heartland Institute has absolutely no credibility. -- Dinsdale
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| From | Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> |
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| Date | 2018-05-01 14:46 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <pcag66$11ne$1@gioia.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #683164 |
On 5/1/2018 12:58 PM, Dinsdale wrote:
> On 5/1/2018 1:45 PM, Sergio wrote:
>> On 5/1/2018 12:08 PM, Dinsdale wrote:
>>> On 5/1/2018 11:44 AM, Sergio wrote:
>>>> On 5/1/2018 4:23 AM, kensi wrote:
>>>>> One of the nation's most respected (and harassed) scientists, Dr.
>>>>> Michael Mann, discusses the climate change tipping point and battling
>>>>> forces of denial:
>>>>>
>>>> Mann got caught lying in emails
>>> You have some of the best bullshit outrage on the internets!
>>>
>> not bullshit, it is in the emails Mann sent out, Ever wonder why
>> nobody has orgional data sets of global worming? Mann says they are
>> copyright, and refuses to let others see it.
>
> Yeah, but the Heartland Institute has absolutely no credibility.
>
who cares about them, do you work for them?
I continue;
We’re Here to Help
Aiding his honor were two friend-of-the-court briefs, one of which was
led by Viscount Monckton of Brenchley, Willie Soon, David Legates, Yours
Truly, and others. The other was from scientists William Happer, Steven
E. Koonin, and Richard S. Lindzen.
Happer and the others provided a lovely summary.
1. The climate is always changing; changes like those of the past
half-century are common in the geologic record, driven by powerful
natural phenomena
2. Human influences on the climate are a small (1%) perturbation to
natural energy flows
3. It is not possible to tell how much of the modest recent warming
can be ascribed to human influences
4. There have been no detrimental changes observed in the most
salient climate variables and today’s projections of future changes are
highly uncertain
Interested readers can explore the reasoning behind this four simple and
true points at their leisure. Share them with every concerned citizen.
Apparently, California’s idea that the oil companies secreted away
formulas for cooler, or maybe it was warmer, weather did not persuade
Judge Alsup. A reporter who was in the judicial classroom tweeted “Judge
slams California cities lawyers says they misled the court – says
document they claim ‘shows conspiracy’ shows nothing of the sort
#climatechange tutorial.” Other attendees agreed.
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| From | Dinsdale <yup@ayup.yup> |
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| Date | 2018-05-01 16:39 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <pcaj9p$175f$1@gioia.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #683189 |
On 5/1/2018 3:46 PM, Sergio wrote: > On 5/1/2018 12:58 PM, Dinsdale wrote: >> On 5/1/2018 1:45 PM, Sergio wrote: >>> On 5/1/2018 12:08 PM, Dinsdale wrote: >>>> On 5/1/2018 11:44 AM, Sergio wrote: >>>>> On 5/1/2018 4:23 AM, kensi wrote: >>>>>> One of the nation's most respected (and harassed) scientists, Dr. >>>>>> Michael Mann, discusses the climate change tipping point and battling >>>>>> forces of denial: >>>>>> >>>>> Mann got caught lying in emails >>>> You have some of the best bullshit outrage on the internets! >>>> >>> not bullshit, it is in the emails Mann sent out, Ever wonder why >>> nobody has orgional data sets of global worming? Mann says they are >>> copyright, and refuses to let others see it. >> >> Yeah, but the Heartland Institute has absolutely no credibility. >> > who cares about them, do you work for them? You're playing back their hogwash like a good little propagandist. If they're not paying you, please contact Charles and David Koch and ask for your $25 million grant. You can buy a lot of fried chicken and pizza widdat. Maybe even buy a faculty chair at the University of Utah so you can move out yer mom's basement. -- Dinsdale
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| From | % <persent@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2018-05-01 13:49 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <b879du.61h.17.1@news.alt.net> |
| In reply to | #683201 |
On 2018-05-01 1:39 PM, Dinsdale wrote: > On 5/1/2018 3:46 PM, Sergio wrote: >> On 5/1/2018 12:58 PM, Dinsdale wrote: >>> On 5/1/2018 1:45 PM, Sergio wrote: >>>> On 5/1/2018 12:08 PM, Dinsdale wrote: >>>>> On 5/1/2018 11:44 AM, Sergio wrote: >>>>>> On 5/1/2018 4:23 AM, kensi wrote: >>>>>>> One of the nation's most respected (and harassed) scientists, Dr. >>>>>>> Michael Mann, discusses the climate change tipping point and >>>>>>> battling >>>>>>> forces of denial: >>>>>>> >>>>>> Mann got caught lying in emails >>>>> You have some of the best bullshit outrage on the internets! >>>>> >>>> not bullshit, it is in the emails Mann sent out, Ever wonder why >>>> nobody has orgional data sets of global worming? Mann says they are >>>> copyright, and refuses to let others see it. >>> >>> Yeah, but the Heartland Institute has absolutely no credibility. >>> >> who cares about them, do you work for them? > > You're playing back their hogwash like a good little propagandist. If > they're not paying you, please contact Charles and David Koch and ask > for your $25 million grant. You can buy a lot of fried chicken and > pizza widdat. Maybe even buy a faculty chair at the University of Utah > so you can move out yer mom's basement. > has the price of your house gone up with the internet company moving in
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| From | mixed nuts <melopsitticus@undulatus.budgie> |
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| Date | 2018-05-01 16:55 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <pcak7f$175k$1@gioia.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #683204 |
On 5/1/2018 4:49 PM, % wrote: > On 2018-05-01 1:39 PM, Dinsdale wrote: >> On 5/1/2018 3:46 PM, Sergio wrote: >>> On 5/1/2018 12:58 PM, Dinsdale wrote: >>>> On 5/1/2018 1:45 PM, Sergio wrote: >>>>> On 5/1/2018 12:08 PM, Dinsdale wrote: >>>>>> On 5/1/2018 11:44 AM, Sergio wrote: >>>>>>> On 5/1/2018 4:23 AM, kensi wrote: >>>>>>>> One of the nation's most respected (and harassed) scientists, Dr. >>>>>>>> Michael Mann, discusses the climate change tipping point and >>>>>>>> battling forces of denial: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> Mann got caught lying in emails >>>>>> You have some of the best bullshit outrage on the internets! >>>>>> >>>>> not bullshit, it is in the emails Mann sent out, Ever wonder why >>>>> nobody has orgional data sets of global worming? Mann says they are >>>>> copyright, and refuses to let others see it. >>>> >>>> Yeah, but the Heartland Institute has absolutely no credibility. >>>> >>> who cares about them, do you work for them? >> >> You're playing back their hogwash like a good little propagandist. If >> they're not paying you, please contact Charles and David Koch and ask >> for your $25 million grant. You can buy a lot of fried chicken and >> pizza widdat. Maybe even buy a faculty chair at the University of >> Utah so you can move out yer mom's basement. >> > has the price of your house gone up with the internet company moving in Why are you talking to your sock? -- Grizzly H.
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| From | % <persent@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2018-05-01 13:59 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <b87a0b.608.19.2@news.alt.net> |
| In reply to | #683206 |
On 2018-05-01 1:55 PM, mixed nuts wrote: > On 5/1/2018 4:49 PM, % wrote: >> On 2018-05-01 1:39 PM, Dinsdale wrote: >>> On 5/1/2018 3:46 PM, Sergio wrote: >>>> On 5/1/2018 12:58 PM, Dinsdale wrote: >>>>> On 5/1/2018 1:45 PM, Sergio wrote: >>>>>> On 5/1/2018 12:08 PM, Dinsdale wrote: >>>>>>> On 5/1/2018 11:44 AM, Sergio wrote: >>>>>>>> On 5/1/2018 4:23 AM, kensi wrote: >>>>>>>>> One of the nation's most respected (and harassed) scientists, Dr. >>>>>>>>> Michael Mann, discusses the climate change tipping point and >>>>>>>>> battling forces of denial: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Mann got caught lying in emails >>>>>>> You have some of the best bullshit outrage on the internets! >>>>>>> >>>>>> not bullshit, it is in the emails Mann sent out, Ever wonder why >>>>>> nobody has orgional data sets of global worming? Mann says they are >>>>>> copyright, and refuses to let others see it. >>>>> >>>>> Yeah, but the Heartland Institute has absolutely no credibility. >>>>> >>>> who cares about them, do you work for them? >>> >>> You're playing back their hogwash like a good little propagandist. >>> If they're not paying you, please contact Charles and David Koch and >>> ask for your $25 million grant. You can buy a lot of fried chicken >>> and pizza widdat. Maybe even buy a faculty chair at the University >>> of Utah so you can move out yer mom's basement. >>> >> has the price of your house gone up with the internet company moving in > > Why are you talking to your sock? > who else will
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| From | Skeeter <skeet@invalid.invalid> |
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| Date | 2018-05-01 14:55 -0600 |
| Message-ID | <v1lhedlmmuq3h4mo7q9f8d9p6vcj6rotg7@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #683201 |
On Tue, 1 May 2018 16:39:22 -0400, Dinsdale <yup@ayup.yup> wrote: >On 5/1/2018 3:46 PM, Sergio wrote: >> On 5/1/2018 12:58 PM, Dinsdale wrote: >>> On 5/1/2018 1:45 PM, Sergio wrote: >>>> On 5/1/2018 12:08 PM, Dinsdale wrote: >>>>> On 5/1/2018 11:44 AM, Sergio wrote: >>>>>> On 5/1/2018 4:23 AM, kensi wrote: >>>>>>> One of the nation's most respected (and harassed) scientists, Dr. >>>>>>> Michael Mann, discusses the climate change tipping point and battling >>>>>>> forces of denial: >>>>>>> >>>>>> Mann got caught lying in emails >>>>> You have some of the best bullshit outrage on the internets! >>>>> >>>> not bullshit, it is in the emails Mann sent out, Ever wonder why >>>> nobody has orgional data sets of global worming? Mann says they are >>>> copyright, and refuses to let others see it. >>> >>> Yeah, but the Heartland Institute has absolutely no credibility. >>> >> who cares about them, do you work for them? > >You're playing back their hogwash like a good little propagandist. If >they're not paying you, please contact Charles and David Koch and ask >for your $25 million grant. You can buy a lot of fried chicken and >pizza widdat. Maybe even buy a faculty chair at the University of Utah >so you can move out yer mom's basement. Isn't the old *moms basement* thing getting just a bit old?
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| From | Dinsdale <yup@ayup.yup> |
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| Date | 2018-05-01 17:01 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <pcakj1$19dp$1@gioia.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #683207 |
On 5/1/2018 4:55 PM, Skeeter wrote: > On Tue, 1 May 2018 16:39:22 -0400, Dinsdale <yup@ayup.yup> wrote: >> On 5/1/2018 3:46 PM, Sergio wrote: >>> On 5/1/2018 12:58 PM, Dinsdale wrote: >>>> On 5/1/2018 1:45 PM, Sergio wrote: >>>>> On 5/1/2018 12:08 PM, Dinsdale wrote: >>>>>> On 5/1/2018 11:44 AM, Sergio wrote: >>>>>>> On 5/1/2018 4:23 AM, kensi wrote: >>>>>>>> One of the nation's most respected (and harassed) scientists, Dr. >>>>>>>> Michael Mann, discusses the climate change tipping point and battling >>>>>>>> forces of denial: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> Mann got caught lying in emails >>>>>> You have some of the best bullshit outrage on the internets! >>>>>> >>>>> not bullshit, it is in the emails Mann sent out, Ever wonder why >>>>> nobody has orgional data sets of global worming? Mann says they are >>>>> copyright, and refuses to let others see it. >>>> >>>> Yeah, but the Heartland Institute has absolutely no credibility. >>>> >>> who cares about them, do you work for them? >> >> You're playing back their hogwash like a good little propagandist. If >> they're not paying you, please contact Charles and David Koch and ask >> for your $25 million grant. You can buy a lot of fried chicken and >> pizza widdat. Maybe even buy a faculty chair at the University of Utah >> so you can move out yer mom's basement. > > Isn't the old *moms basement* thing getting just a bit old? No different than posting on twitter in yer underwear at 3 AM living rent free in a gummint building. Modern stuff. -- Dinsdale
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| From | Skeeter <skeet@invalid.invalid> |
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| Date | 2018-05-01 15:08 -0600 |
| Message-ID | <3qlhedtbqh6h4h58kc78vm5ufg23qhl0mo@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #683211 |
On Tue, 1 May 2018 17:01:22 -0400, Dinsdale <yup@ayup.yup> wrote: >On 5/1/2018 4:55 PM, Skeeter wrote: >> On Tue, 1 May 2018 16:39:22 -0400, Dinsdale <yup@ayup.yup> wrote: >>> On 5/1/2018 3:46 PM, Sergio wrote: >>>> On 5/1/2018 12:58 PM, Dinsdale wrote: >>>>> On 5/1/2018 1:45 PM, Sergio wrote: >>>>>> On 5/1/2018 12:08 PM, Dinsdale wrote: >>>>>>> On 5/1/2018 11:44 AM, Sergio wrote: >>>>>>>> On 5/1/2018 4:23 AM, kensi wrote: >>>>>>>>> One of the nation's most respected (and harassed) scientists, Dr. >>>>>>>>> Michael Mann, discusses the climate change tipping point and battling >>>>>>>>> forces of denial: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Mann got caught lying in emails >>>>>>> You have some of the best bullshit outrage on the internets! >>>>>>> >>>>>> not bullshit, it is in the emails Mann sent out, Ever wonder why >>>>>> nobody has orgional data sets of global worming? Mann says they are >>>>>> copyright, and refuses to let others see it. >>>>> >>>>> Yeah, but the Heartland Institute has absolutely no credibility. >>>>> >>>> who cares about them, do you work for them? >>> >>> You're playing back their hogwash like a good little propagandist. If >>> they're not paying you, please contact Charles and David Koch and ask >>> for your $25 million grant. You can buy a lot of fried chicken and >>> pizza widdat. Maybe even buy a faculty chair at the University of Utah >>> so you can move out yer mom's basement. >> >> Isn't the old *moms basement* thing getting just a bit old? > >No different than posting on twitter in yer underwear at 3 AM living >rent free in a gummint building. Modern stuff. You speak from experience? MAGA!
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| From | Dinsdale <yup@ayup.yup> |
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| Date | 2018-05-01 21:00 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <pcb2iu$1sc1$1@gioia.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #683213 |
On 5/1/2018 5:08 PM, Skeeter wrote: > On Tue, 1 May 2018 17:01:22 -0400, Dinsdale <yup@ayup.yup> wrote: >> On 5/1/2018 4:55 PM, Skeeter wrote: >>> On Tue, 1 May 2018 16:39:22 -0400, Dinsdale <yup@ayup.yup> wrote: >>>> On 5/1/2018 3:46 PM, Sergio wrote: >>>>> On 5/1/2018 12:58 PM, Dinsdale wrote: >>>>>> On 5/1/2018 1:45 PM, Sergio wrote: >>>>>>> On 5/1/2018 12:08 PM, Dinsdale wrote: >>>>>>>> On 5/1/2018 11:44 AM, Sergio wrote: >>>>>>>>> On 5/1/2018 4:23 AM, kensi wrote: >>>>>>>>>> One of the nation's most respected (and harassed) scientists, Dr. >>>>>>>>>> Michael Mann, discusses the climate change tipping point and battling >>>>>>>>>> forces of denial: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Mann got caught lying in emails >>>>>>>> You have some of the best bullshit outrage on the internets! >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> not bullshit, it is in the emails Mann sent out, Ever wonder why >>>>>>> nobody has orgional data sets of global worming? Mann says they are >>>>>>> copyright, and refuses to let others see it. >>>>>> >>>>>> Yeah, but the Heartland Institute has absolutely no credibility. >>>>>> >>>>> who cares about them, do you work for them? >>>> >>>> You're playing back their hogwash like a good little propagandist. If >>>> they're not paying you, please contact Charles and David Koch and ask >>>> for your $25 million grant. You can buy a lot of fried chicken and >>>> pizza widdat. Maybe even buy a faculty chair at the University of Utah >>>> so you can move out yer mom's basement. >>> >>> Isn't the old *moms basement* thing getting just a bit old? >> >> No different than posting on twitter in yer underwear at 3 AM living >> rent free in a gummint building. Modern stuff. > > You speak from experience? I've never been a fascist dictator bent on destroying a government by, for, and of the people in favor of corporatism. I don't even weigh 239 pounds, nor do I have a pendulous abdomen and a fat ass. And I paid my mortgage, pay my taxes and don't create hundreds of blocker companies to hide my money laundering and tax avoidance operations. -- Dinsdale
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| From | % <persent@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2018-05-01 18:07 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <b87oi7.b6j.19.1@news.alt.net> |
| In reply to | #683248 |
On 2018-05-01 6:00 PM, Dinsdale wrote: > On 5/1/2018 5:08 PM, Skeeter wrote: >> On Tue, 1 May 2018 17:01:22 -0400, Dinsdale <yup@ayup.yup> wrote: >>> On 5/1/2018 4:55 PM, Skeeter wrote: >>>> On Tue, 1 May 2018 16:39:22 -0400, Dinsdale <yup@ayup.yup> wrote: >>>>> On 5/1/2018 3:46 PM, Sergio wrote: >>>>>> On 5/1/2018 12:58 PM, Dinsdale wrote: >>>>>>> On 5/1/2018 1:45 PM, Sergio wrote: >>>>>>>> On 5/1/2018 12:08 PM, Dinsdale wrote: >>>>>>>>> On 5/1/2018 11:44 AM, Sergio wrote: >>>>>>>>>> On 5/1/2018 4:23 AM, kensi wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> One of the nation's most respected (and harassed) scientists, >>>>>>>>>>> Dr. >>>>>>>>>>> Michael Mann, discusses the climate change tipping point and >>>>>>>>>>> battling >>>>>>>>>>> forces of denial: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Mann got caught lying in emails >>>>>>>>> You have some of the best bullshit outrage on the internets! >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> not bullshit, it is in the emails Mann sent out, Ever wonder why >>>>>>>> nobody has orgional data sets of global worming? Mann says they >>>>>>>> are >>>>>>>> copyright, and refuses to let others see it. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Yeah, but the Heartland Institute has absolutely no credibility. >>>>>>> >>>>>> who cares about them, do you work for them? >>>>> >>>>> You're playing back their hogwash like a good little propagandist. If >>>>> they're not paying you, please contact Charles and David Koch and ask >>>>> for your $25 million grant. You can buy a lot of fried chicken and >>>>> pizza widdat. Maybe even buy a faculty chair at the University of >>>>> Utah >>>>> so you can move out yer mom's basement. >>>> >>>> Isn't the old *moms basement* thing getting just a bit old? >>> >>> No different than posting on twitter in yer underwear at 3 AM living >>> rent free in a gummint building. Modern stuff. >> >> You speak from experience? > > I've never been a fascist dictator bent on destroying a government by, > for, and of the people in favor of corporatism. I don't even weigh 239 > pounds, nor do I have a pendulous abdomen and a fat ass. And I paid my > mortgage, pay my taxes and don't create hundreds of blocker companies to > hide my money laundering and tax avoidance operations. > robot chefs , what are they ... mad
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| From | Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> |
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| Date | 2018-05-01 20:16 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <pcb3h9$1tf3$1@gioia.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #683248 |
On 5/1/2018 8:00 PM, Dinsdale wrote: > On 5/1/2018 5:08 PM, Skeeter wrote: >> On Tue, 1 May 2018 17:01:22 -0400, Dinsdale <yup@ayup.yup> wrote: >>> On 5/1/2018 4:55 PM, Skeeter wrote: >>>> On Tue, 1 May 2018 16:39:22 -0400, Dinsdale <yup@ayup.yup> wrote: >>>>> On 5/1/2018 3:46 PM, Sergio wrote: >>>>>> On 5/1/2018 12:58 PM, Dinsdale wrote: >>>>>>> On 5/1/2018 1:45 PM, Sergio wrote: >>>>>>>> On 5/1/2018 12:08 PM, Dinsdale wrote: >>>>>>>>> On 5/1/2018 11:44 AM, Sergio wrote: >>>>>>>>>> On 5/1/2018 4:23 AM, kensi wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> One of the nation's most respected (and harassed) scientists, >>>>>>>>>>> Dr. >>>>>>>>>>> Michael Mann, discusses the climate change tipping point and >>>>>>>>>>> battling >>>>>>>>>>> forces of denial: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Mann got caught lying in emails >>>>>>>>> You have some of the best bullshit outrage on the internets! >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> not bullshit, it is in the emails Mann sent out, Ever wonder why >>>>>>>> nobody has orgional data sets of global worming? Mann says they >>>>>>>> are >>>>>>>> copyright, and refuses to let others see it. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Yeah, but the Heartland Institute has absolutely no credibility. >>>>>>> >>>>>> who cares about them, do you work for them? >>>>> >>>>> You're playing back their hogwash like a good little propagandist. If >>>>> they're not paying you, please contact Charles and David Koch and ask >>>>> for your $25 million grant. You can buy a lot of fried chicken and >>>>> pizza widdat. Maybe even buy a faculty chair at the University of >>>>> Utah >>>>> so you can move out yer mom's basement. >>>> >>>> Isn't the old *moms basement* thing getting just a bit old? >>> >>> No different than posting on twitter in yer underwear at 3 AM living >>> rent free in a gummint building. Modern stuff. >> >> You speak from experience? > > I've never been a fascist dictator bent on destroying a government by, > for, and of the people in favor of corporatism. I don't even weigh 239 > pounds, nor do I have a pendulous abdomen and a fat ass. so, you say you are not Hillary.... > And I paid my > mortgage, pay my taxes and don't create hundreds of blocker companies to > hide my money laundering and tax avoidance operations. dont need hunderds, only one, called a "Foundation", it hides your money, ask Bill + Hillary, Obama, or Nancy Pelosie, or Chuck Schumer, John Kerry, almost all the democrats have one, because they are RICH. and they 'thank you' for your attention to help them get them richer, or at least their "Foundations". seriously, a foundation is an opaque legal entity, you cannot see the books, or find out who did what money laundering is OK as in the Clinton's Foundation a foundation is a tax avoidance structure.
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| From | kensi <kkensington01@gmail.nospam.invalid> |
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| Date | 2018-05-02 05:16 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <pcbvkv$14h9$3@gioia.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #683253 |
On 5/1/2018 9:16 PM, Sergio wrote: > On 5/1/2018 8:00 PM, Dinsdale wrote: >> mortgage, pay my taxes and don't create hundreds of blocker companies to >> hide my money laundering and tax avoidance operations. > > dont need hunderds, only one, called a "Foundation", > it hides your money, ask Bill + Hillary, Obama, or Nancy Pelosie, or > Chuck Schumer, John Kerry, almost all the democrats have one, because > they are RICH. You say that as if the Repugs don't have plenty of their own. Heritage Foundation, anyone? -- "To explain the unknown by the known is a logical procedure; to explain the known by the unknown is a form of theological lunacy." ~David Brooks "I get fooled all the time by the constant hosiery parade in here." ~Checkmate
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| From | Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> |
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| Date | 2018-05-02 09:27 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <pcchs0$7uj$1@gioia.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #683281 |
On 5/2/2018 4:16 AM, kensi wrote:
> On 5/1/2018 9:16 PM, Sergio wrote:
>> On 5/1/2018 8:00 PM, Dinsdale wrote:
>>> mortgage, pay my taxes and don't create hundreds of blocker companies to
>>> hide my money laundering and tax avoidance operations.
>>
>> dont need hunderds, only one, called a "Foundation",
>> it hides your money, ask Bill + Hillary, Obama, or Nancy Pelosie, or
>> Chuck Schumer, John Kerry, almost all the democrats have one, because
>> they are RICH.
>
> You say that as if the Repugs don't have plenty of their own. Heritage
> Foundation, anyone?
>
The party of Pelosi is trapped in identity politics
What they can't escape is identity politics—the slicing and dicing of
the electorate by race, sex, orientation, gender identity, country of
origin, dietary preference, what have you. Meanwhile President Trump has
run off with the most saleable of the Democrats' old issues and the
foundations of their coalition. You'd think they'd notice.
Instead the Democrats are too paralyzed by disgust with Trump to care.
They are too in love with their newly created self-image as the vehicle
of the Resistance, too possessed by the codes and nostrums of the
literary theory courses they took as undergraduates, too beholden to the
ludicrous iconography of Hillary Clinton as feminist martyr.
Clinton is undoubtedly one of the worst major party nominees in the
history of the United States, a public figure whose tin ear, ineptitude,
defensiveness, corruption, and privilege cost her not one but two
presidential contests.
Her dogged and egregious self-fashioning into a "protector of women" has
again and again been exposed as false, from her days laughing off her
defense of a child rapist, to her decades-long role in demeaning and
undermining her husband's victims, to her "reassignment" of a spiritual
adviser credibly accused of sexual misconduct during the 2008 campaign.
Days later, a bizarre clip of Clinton thanking "activist bitches
supporting bitches" went viral on Twitter. Then she appeared on the
telecast of the Grammys, reading a portion of Fire and Fury. The
audience whooped and cheered as if they were in Philadelphia two summers
ago.
No one in the crowd seems to have wondered why this two-time loser,
whose approval rating is at an all-time low, feels driven to remain a
semi-constant presence in public life.
Nor has her handling of press relations improved. Hours before President
Trump began his State of the Union address, Clinton released a clumsy,
cynical, lengthy, self-serving, and dodgy explanation of why she allowed
Reverend Harasser to keep his job nine years ago. "If I had it to do
again, I wouldn't," Clinton wrote, in a typically confusing and
mealy-mouthed non-apology apology that went out of its way to attack the
New York Times for having the temerity to report on her critically.
(Remind you of anyone?) Of course, the reason for Clinton's inaction is
the same for all of her missteps. She didn't think she'd be caught.
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| From | benj <benj@nobody.net> |
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| Date | 2018-05-02 14:14 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <PdnGC.81624$w94.59660@fx43.iad> |
| In reply to | #683310 |
On 5/2/2018 10:27 AM, Sergio wrote: > On 5/2/2018 4:16 AM, kensi wrote: >> On 5/1/2018 9:16 PM, Sergio wrote: >>> On 5/1/2018 8:00 PM, Dinsdale wrote: >>>> mortgage, pay my taxes and don't create hundreds of blocker companies to >>>> hide my money laundering and tax avoidance operations. >>> >>> dont need hunderds, only one, called a "Foundation", >>> it hides your money, ask Bill + Hillary, Obama, or Nancy Pelosie, or >>> Chuck Schumer, John Kerry, almost all the democrats have one, because >>> they are RICH. >> >> You say that as if the Repugs don't have plenty of their own. Heritage >> Foundation, anyone? >> > > > The party of Pelosi is trapped in identity politics > > What they can't escape is identity politics—the slicing and dicing of > the electorate by race, sex, orientation, gender identity, country of > origin, dietary preference, what have you. Meanwhile President Trump has > run off with the most saleable of the Democrats' old issues and the > foundations of their coalition. You'd think they'd notice. > > Instead the Democrats are too paralyzed by disgust with Trump to care. > They are too in love with their newly created self-image as the vehicle > of the Resistance, too possessed by the codes and nostrums of the > literary theory courses they took as undergraduates, too beholden to the > ludicrous iconography of Hillary Clinton as feminist martyr. > > Clinton is undoubtedly one of the worst major party nominees in the > history of the United States, a public figure whose tin ear, ineptitude, > defensiveness, corruption, and privilege cost her not one but two > presidential contests. > > Her dogged and egregious self-fashioning into a "protector of women" has > again and again been exposed as false, from her days laughing off her > defense of a child rapist, to her decades-long role in demeaning and > undermining her husband's victims, to her "reassignment" of a spiritual > adviser credibly accused of sexual misconduct during the 2008 campaign. > > Days later, a bizarre clip of Clinton thanking "activist bitches > supporting bitches" went viral on Twitter. Then she appeared on the > telecast of the Grammys, reading a portion of Fire and Fury. The > audience whooped and cheered as if they were in Philadelphia two summers > ago. > > No one in the crowd seems to have wondered why this two-time loser, > whose approval rating is at an all-time low, feels driven to remain a > semi-constant presence in public life. > > Nor has her handling of press relations improved. Hours before President > Trump began his State of the Union address, Clinton released a clumsy, > cynical, lengthy, self-serving, and dodgy explanation of why she allowed > Reverend Harasser to keep his job nine years ago. "If I had it to do > again, I wouldn't," Clinton wrote, in a typically confusing and > mealy-mouthed non-apology apology that went out of its way to attack the > New York Times for having the temerity to report on her critically. > (Remind you of anyone?) Of course, the reason for Clinton's inaction is > the same for all of her missteps. She didn't think she'd be caught. > You all know journalists and columnists are not my favorite people, especially when pontificating on science of which they know nothing and refuse to find out something from someone who knows so they can make a "good story". And usually the same goes for politics. Yes journalists DO understand politics even though their screed generally is all spun to please their bosses. So it's rare when a journalist employs their political insight and writes like it is. Yet, it does happen. See full text of above here: http://freebeacon.com/columns/back-future-democrats/
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| From | kensi <kkensington01@gmail.nospam.invalid> |
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| Date | 2018-05-03 05:29 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <pcekpc$1fge$6@gioia.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #683310 |
On 5/2/2018 10:27 AM, Sergio wrote: > No one in the crowd seems to have wondered why this two-time loser, > whose approval rating is at an all-time low, feels driven to remain a > semi-constant presence in public life. Perhaps because it makes you and your fellow-travelers froth so? *snicker* -- "To explain the unknown by the known is a logical procedure; to explain the known by the unknown is a form of theological lunacy." ~David Brooks "I get fooled all the time by the constant hosiery parade in here." ~Checkmate
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